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Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:

And I'm truly very sorry that I'm being an arrogant dick. I truly am.

But, I am sick of noobs ignoring good evidence and questioning my tells, and then voting me for it, nonetheless.

I played with mg and kantor for several games, and several games ago, both of them fought with me on the "lynch all lurkers" rule. They said, "you have just as much chance to lynch a townie". Now, several games later, MG is sheepishly saying, "lynch lurkers, they are usually mafia".

It took 3 games of proving it to them before they finally "got it", despite them saying it wasn't true every game, and arguing with me about it. Now they both agree, and I'm tired of explaining how the game works to noobs.


Enough of you righteousness.

You can't say scum will never do something and expect me to believe you actually believe it.

You haven't made that strong a case against Trucks.

If your big evidence is that he acts one way to scum but has treated everyone else differently how would that work if MG was scum? Or anyone else as well as him?

If you wanted MG lynched so much why didn't you make the case when I had said I was willing for either him or Mg just didn't want to rush?

Not to mentioned I voted for you before when you were making points saying I was insisting on something when you were the only one saying it had to be a certain way.

If you think that asking questions day one about thoughts on lurkers and day one lynches is the same as discussing possibilities of the make up of the game after there has been more than one night kill where does "ranking how much you trust people" fit in?

You saying that scum don't make enemies is so wrong and seem a shallow defense since you're making plenty.

You make these long posts and then you even forget some the the points you make and ask me wth?

Now you have me riled up and that also makes me think you are scum.  Good job.

like i care what u think, you little insect. 



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theprof00 said:
A Bad Clown said:
theprof00 said:

i put so much more analysis into my "didn't read the pm" thing than you did. I analyzed and explained how it is significant, whereas you just pointed out what he did. 

How can you even think that I'm hitching myself to your actions. No offense, but when you notice things,  you have no idea what to do with them. Yes, you caught my attention with pointing out the pm, but you did not go after dsis like I did. I had at least three major things that I had against him, and you had one major thing that you couldn't even put into words properly.

Sure you can point out something weird, but can you explain why it is weird? Can you get people to really act on it? How can you possibly think you did what I did before I did it? It boggles my mind. In gave goood solid reasons and was ignored on every front.

I stopped after Metal_Gear voted me, it looked like I was going to be set up for a day one lynch. There's not much I can prove by saying "Everytime I had played with dsister he was scum and did the same things".

you didn't even try to prove your point. No link, no explanation. Dsis posted a link that completely made your argument look bad. You didn't try. And this is what I'm talking about ABC.

You see things, but have no idea what to do after that. That's good though, you have the gift for sight. But until you become capable of proving it concisely and effectively, you are a nub.

I'll point out also, that what you've been doing, (bringing up how you so-called went after dsis first) you've been undermining my argument. And you must get upset yourself when you see something, and nobody follows, right?

Well think about the effort I put in, easily shown by comparing your and my efforts against dsis' pm idea, and just take a guess how upsetting it is when someone not only ignores your point, but undermines it. That is you abc. You are the enemy of yourself.

parenting!



Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:
A Bad Clown said:
theprof00 said:

i put so much more analysis into my "didn't read the pm" thing than you did. I analyzed and explained how it is significant, whereas you just pointed out what he did. 

How can you even think that I'm hitching myself to your actions. No offense, but when you notice things,  you have no idea what to do with them. Yes, you caught my attention with pointing out the pm, but you did not go after dsis like I did. I had at least three major things that I had against him, and you had one major thing that you couldn't even put into words properly.

Sure you can point out something weird, but can you explain why it is weird? Can you get people to really act on it? How can you possibly think you did what I did before I did it? It boggles my mind. In gave goood solid reasons and was ignored on every front.

I stopped after Metal_Gear voted me, it looked like I was going to be set up for a day one lynch. There's not much I can prove by saying "Everytime I had played with dsister he was scum and did the same things".

you didn't even try to prove your point. No link, no explanation. Dsis posted a link that completely made your argument look bad. You didn't try. And this is what I'm talking about ABC.

You see things, but have no idea what to do after that. That's good though, you have the gift for sight. But until you become capable of proving it concisely and effectively, you are a nub.

I'll point out also, that what you've been doing, (bringing up how you so-called went after dsis first) you've been undermining my argument. And you must get upset yourself when you see something, and nobody follows, right?

Well think about the effort I put in, easily shown by comparing your and my efforts against dsis' pm idea, and just take a guess how upsetting it is when someone not only ignores your point, but undermines it. That is you abc. You are the enemy of yourself.

parenting!

lol HOW DROLE!



Tracking ...

... *looks up definition of drole.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

now enough, i'm not going to give anyone a reason to thinkn this is mafia bickering.

You're a nub and that's that. If you truly want it to take you 5 games to learn something, then so be it.

Keep undermining tells. 



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theprof00 said:

It's not that 2 mafia factions is unlikely, but that there isn't really solid evidence to prove it (linkz said he colored them the same on purpose, and gniz' theory was based on there being role-alignment matchups.

It's really starting to look like people completely buy it. I have a problem whenever people completely buy something.

 

on another note, while I am still willing to lync darth, I'm also willing to lynch either ABC or notstan. On that merit, notstan has the most glaring infractions that I've seen thus far, so, I'll be changing my vote from darth.

Unvote darth
vote notstan

ABC I'm looking at mainly because earlier he made a couple posts about kil'jaeden, saying he created the lich king. When I told him that I had already claimed it, he was like, "oh well, I guess it's randomized then". It's like, "And how would you know that mister?! You shouldn't know my alignment!"

However, I've decided to vote notstan over ABC because (despite how ridiculous it is) I cannot believe that ABC would draw mafia twice in a row. (although he's a possible SK)

There is so much to call you out on in this.

You complain about people comepletely buying things yet when there was talk of me being the target or not you bouth into your one way and saw no other possibiblies.

You talk of still being willing to vote for darth. A person who had votes of notstan and trucks.

Your main reason for him over ABC is mostly bizzar.

You suddenly have more faith in ABC even though you shoot most of what he says down.



theprof00 said:

now enough, i'm not going to give anyone a reason to thinkn this is mafia bickering.

You're a nub and that's that. If you truly want it to take you 5 games to learn something, then so be it.

Keep undermining tells. 


You act like "tells" are all important. By the time you get a group to think there is a scum tell. The scum can use then to get townies lynched.

That is what I think you are now trying to do.



theprof00 said:

I think it's safe to say that Baal is a townie. I've been rereading all his posts, and I don't get any scum vibe from him.

Despite the fact that he's been one of the most wishy-washy players I've seen in a game, and drawn more wrong conclusions than I'm comfortable with, I see these remarkable moments of clarity where that naivete seems to just disappear. It's possible that it's because he's just playing dumb as a mafia, but I'm, say, 75% confident that he is town. 

Unless he is some kind of super genius, I'm going with town.

YOU, on the other hand, have been drawing my attention recently. For better or worse, you're in my sights, Mr. Lich-King, aka mafia-godfather.


so it's ok as long as you ignore your tells??



theprof00 said:
dsister said:

theprof said:

i'd say hold off baal

Why?

Also lol :P

was that my accidental post in round 25? lol

Well, I'd say hold off because of a role claim. I really don't know what to do at this point. My only three suspects are all new to the game somewhat, and 2 of them aren't REALLY lurking, but are very much absent. I feel it's possible I'm making a big deal out of their "mistakes" and whatnot, but on the other hand MG is a good candidate, and so is darth. Additionally, just because he's roleblocker doesn't really clear him in my eyes, but he hasn't necessarily acted in a contradictory manner either.

I'm actually stumped.


For complaining of trucks reaction to the roleclaim yours was worse



Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:

I think it's safe to say that Baal is a townie. I've been rereading all his posts, and I don't get any scum vibe from him.

Despite the fact that he's been one of the most wishy-washy players I've seen in a game, and drawn more wrong conclusions than I'm comfortable with, I see these remarkable moments of clarity where that naivete seems to just disappear. It's possible that it's because he's just playing dumb as a mafia, but I'm, say, 75% confident that he is town. 

Unless he is some kind of super genius, I'm going with town.

YOU, on the other hand, have been drawing my attention recently. For better or worse, you're in my sights, Mr. Lich-King, aka mafia-godfather.


so it's ok as long as you ignore your tells??

actually i wrote that as ana excuse. When he claimed, he wrote X, TOWN VANILLA.

That is exact text from the pm. This made me think he was town.

However, I didn't want to bring it up directly because I didn't want him to be modkilled. 

Then, later, I noticed that that exact text was written by links in one of the first posts. I didn't bring it back up later, but I have been looking at him from time to time. In fact, during the look at trucks, he's popped out as one of the forefront suspects.

 

And wonk, you yourself said, "you haven't pissed me off yet, and scum usually piss me off, so I'm thinking you're town"

THAT IS A TELL. You can't undermine tells when everyone uses them! Everyone uses tells, but not everyone gives off the same tells. Look at poker. A tell in poker is when someone raises an eyebrow when they have a good hand. Not everybody does that, and some people know their own tell and play up to it to help them bluff.

Tells are not 100%, but they are good indicators. And trucks' tells are not universal. In fact, his defense/accuse tactic is the first time I've encountered it. BUT, he's done it with everyone except other mafia. With the other mafia he stops just before saying "HOWEVER, x,y,z makes me think they are suspicious". This is trucks' tell. His stance is changing from situation to situation in an ANONYMOUS game. His stance shouldn't be changing like that, and especially not in favour of scum.

I'm sorry you don't understand that, and I'm sorry for being mean. But you have a lot to learn, young padawan.