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Though the connection between me trucks aren't true.....cos I'm not mafia



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Assuming trucks is mafia.....>.>



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A Bad Clown said:

May I be the clarify I was the first to go after dsister? I went went of on him for the "not reading pm" thing as a way to not be targeted by the town.


You mean this pathetic little post:

A Bad Clown said:
MetalGear_94 said:
A Bad Clown said:

I have some information that may single out a player, but until I believe more that they could be mafia I won't use it.

Why not?

Can you guess who said this in a game when a certain player was one my team? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't on this site. "I was going to do anything I could to survive till the night. Even sacrifice Clown ". This person also claimed to have not read their PM...

compare this with my two posts on the subject

Offtopic concern with dsis:

I do agree that "not reading your pm" is suspicious. In fact, it's one of the main things mafia talk about as a bane; that knowing you are mafia and knowing your teammates changes your game and makes you think differently, making it harder to blend in and keep your mates safe.

That doesn't inherently make someone a mafia. But it is an underlining thought of every mafia post early on. "pretend you don't know your teammates".

Whether you agree or not, doesn't make a difference to me. Just giving my opinion.

 

 

Additionally, I'd just like to point out dsis' "i didn't read my pm" and analyze it a bit.

There are two possible alignments (possibly a third party but I'll not muddy the details):

If town, this doesn't tell me much except that he's a bit brash.

If mafia, this tells me that anything he says isn't a good indicator of who his teammates are. Who he votes and who he defends cannot really be analyzed for connections.

This is true of all townies as well, as the nature of the game forces you to consider motivations given an assumed alignment.

But to bring it all together now;

As a townie, there is no real advantage to telling the town you didn't read your pm. As a mafia, there IS an advantage. It is this opportunism that I find relevant, not to mention this is the first opportunistic thing dsis has done; the second being his vote of Heph.

There is also the question of how he found this thread, despite there not being a link to it anywhere but in his signature. It's very much possible that he found it in the off-topic section (which is likely given that dsis is an offtopic lurker), but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

 

after your first post you interrogated him as to why he didn't tell us before, but you never did any analysis.



MetalGear_94 said:

Though the connection between me trucks aren't true.....cos I'm not mafia

Well, for me, thats the part that is quite interesting,  your name seemed to show up alot in that investigation



i put so much more analysis into my "didn't read the pm" thing than you did. I analyzed and explained how it is significant, whereas you just pointed out what he did. 

How can you even think that I'm hitching myself to your actions. No offense, but when you notice things,  you have no idea what to do with them. Yes, you caught my attention with pointing out the pm, but you did not go after dsis like I did. I had at least three major things that I had against him, and you had one major thing that you couldn't even put into words properly.

Sure you can point out something weird, but can you explain why it is weird? Can you get people to really act on it? How can you possibly think you did what I did before I did it? It boggles my mind. In gave goood solid reasons and was ignored on every front.



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And I'm truly very sorry that I'm being an arrogant dick. I truly am.

But, I am sick of noobs ignoring good evidence and questioning my tells, and then voting me for it, nonetheless.

I played with mg and kantor for several games, and several games ago, both of them fought with me on the "lynch all lurkers" rule. They said, "you have just as much chance to lynch a townie". Now, several games later, MG is sheepishly saying, "lynch lurkers, they are usually mafia".

It took 3 games of proving it to them before they finally "got it", despite them saying it wasn't true every game, and arguing with me about it. Now they both agree, and I'm tired of explaining how the game works to noobs.



theprof00 said:

i put so much more analysis into my "didn't read the pm" thing than you did. I analyzed and explained how it is significant, whereas you just pointed out what he did. 

How can you even think that I'm hitching myself to your actions. No offense, but when you notice things,  you have no idea what to do with them. Yes, you caught my attention with pointing out the pm, but you did not go after dsis like I did. I had at least three major things that I had against him, and you had one major thing that you couldn't even put into words properly.

Sure you can point out something weird, but can you explain why it is weird? Can you get people to really act on it? How can you possibly think you did what I did before I did it? It boggles my mind. In gave goood solid reasons and was ignored on every front.

I stopped after Metal_Gear voted me, it looked like I was going to be set up for a day one lynch. There's not much I can prove by saying "Everytime I had played with dsister he was scum and did the same things".



19:44:34 Skeezer METAL GEAR ONLINE
19:44:36 Skeezer FAILURE
19:44:51 ABadClown You're right!
19:44:55 ABadClown Hur hur hur
19:45:01 Skeezer i meant
19:45:04 Skeezer YOU ARE A FAILKURE
19:45:08 Skeezer FAILURE*
theprof00 said:

And I'm truly very sorry that I'm being an arrogant dick. I truly am.

But, I am sick of noobs ignoring good evidence and questioning my tells, and then voting me for it, nonetheless.

I played with mg and kantor for several games, and several games ago, both of them fought with me on the "lynch all lurkers" rule. They said, "you have just as much chance to lynch a townie". Now, several games later, MG is sheepishly saying, "lynch lurkers, they are usually mafia".

It took 3 games of proving it to them before they finally "got it", despite them saying it wasn't true every game, and arguing with me about it. Now they both agree, and I'm tired of explaining how the game works to noobs.


Enough of you righteousness.

You can't say scum will never do something and expect me to believe you actually believe it.

You haven't made that strong a case against Trucks.

If your big evidence is that he acts one way to scum but has treated everyone else differently how would that work if MG was scum? Or anyone else as well as him?

If you wanted MG lynched so much why didn't you make the case when I had said I was willing for either him or Mg just didn't want to rush?

Not to mentioned I voted for you before when you were making points saying I was insisting on something when you were the only one saying it had to be a certain way.

If you think that asking questions day one about thoughts on lurkers and day one lynches is the same as discussing possibilities of the make up of the game after there has been more than one night kill where does "ranking how much you trust people" fit in?

You saying that scum don't make enemies is so wrong and seem a shallow defense since you're making plenty.

You make these long posts and then you even forget some the the points you make and ask me wth?

Now you have me riled up and that also makes me think you are scum.  Good job.



Everybody unvote who you are voting for and vote prof!



A Bad Clown said:
theprof00 said:

i put so much more analysis into my "didn't read the pm" thing than you did. I analyzed and explained how it is significant, whereas you just pointed out what he did. 

How can you even think that I'm hitching myself to your actions. No offense, but when you notice things,  you have no idea what to do with them. Yes, you caught my attention with pointing out the pm, but you did not go after dsis like I did. I had at least three major things that I had against him, and you had one major thing that you couldn't even put into words properly.

Sure you can point out something weird, but can you explain why it is weird? Can you get people to really act on it? How can you possibly think you did what I did before I did it? It boggles my mind. In gave goood solid reasons and was ignored on every front.

I stopped after Metal_Gear voted me, it looked like I was going to be set up for a day one lynch. There's not much I can prove by saying "Everytime I had played with dsister he was scum and did the same things".

you didn't even try to prove your point. No link, no explanation. Dsis posted a link that completely made your argument look bad. You didn't try. And this is what I'm talking about ABC.

You see things, but have no idea what to do after that. That's good though, you have the gift for sight. But until you become capable of proving it concisely and effectively, you are a nub.

I'll point out also, that what you've been doing, (bringing up how you so-called went after dsis first) you've been undermining my argument. And you must get upset yourself when you see something, and nobody follows, right?

Well think about the effort I put in, easily shown by comparing your and my efforts against dsis' pm idea, and just take a guess how upsetting it is when someone not only ignores your point, but undermines it. That is you abc. You are the enemy of yourself.