A Bad Clown said: Clown iz back, for now. I do think it's a little strange that prof is playing different than he was last round as town, but I'm not sure if he just changed play styles or what. |
Different how?
A Bad Clown said: Clown iz back, for now. I do think it's a little strange that prof is playing different than he was last round as town, but I'm not sure if he just changed play styles or what. |
Different how?
Vetteman94 said:
Different how? |
Like last round he was really trying to interrogate people into doing something contradictory like this
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3912881
19:44:34 | Skeezer | METAL GEAR ONLINE |
19:44:36 | Skeezer | FAILURE |
19:44:51 | ABadClown | You're right! |
19:44:55 | ABadClown | Hur hur hur |
19:45:01 | Skeezer | i meant |
19:45:04 | Skeezer | YOU ARE A FAILKURE |
19:45:08 | Skeezer | FAILURE* |
Wonk said:
"1) I think you are scum. So I don't trust you when you call on you mafia theories.I think you have found your way to play as scum by sticking to your past theories and waited to find someone town who fit into as many of them as possible.
2The whole parenting argument feels stupid to me.
3To go further on you argument for him not voting to end day one. You came on and didn't end it either.
4To talk about the make out of the game is important. Knowing what ideas work with what make up allow us to eliminate things the more we know.
5You are comparing structure of the game with make out of the game.
6You had a wishy washy post after notstan roleclaimed. Hat called you on it and then you said again we should vote for him.
7What is you scum theory of someone throwing out a new target to protect scum buddies?
8What is your theory of people who stick so much to one scum then keep saying "I was right listen to me" repeatedly?
9)What is your theory on people who ask for lists?"
1) Look, I'll admit that my theories don't always work out. I've been wrong, and I'll be wrong again. But I have evidence. I have many good reasons to pursue this vote, and push for this lynch, and what more do I need? I'll remind you that I was the one who first looked at notstan, and ironically, it was because of your very own interaction with him. I saw that he responded badly to your joking, and determined that he was scum. I did the same with dsister. Hilariously enough, none of you supported me in either case. You want to know what got you to vote for notstan? A night action.
It took a night action for you guys to do anything about it. What happened to all that vanilla experience? We played those games to improve the level of ability for our gamers. And now, as soon as we have a night role, that's all you all care about. Sleuthing isn't worth shit, is it?
2) The parenting thing was just a feeling. It wasn't anything solid. You can only rely on feelings and suspicions in this game, and the parenting led me to reanalyzing all of his posts. That "LEAD" helped me figure out a whole lot more. You know how in life, cops do things based on leads? It's similar to that here. I had a lead, and it lead to a more thorough investigation, in which I found so much more than just "parenting".
3) and what argument was that? I never made it a big deal that he didn't end day 1. Seriously, wtf are you talking about?
4) I CALLED DSIS OUT and nobody supported me except Hat (except I think there was one other person that added to it, but I forget who). And look who was right. I was.
Look, I don't think you "get it". Asking questions about the make-up of a game is a scum tell. A tell is recurent behavior that becomes recurrent because of how successful it is. For example, you talk about the structure of the game, because it is artificial discussion. Put yourself in the mafia seat. What do you talk about? What will gain you the least amount of attention and enemies but at the same time look like you are contributing? Structure. Look, when you "interrogate" a player, you earn enemies. However, interrogating players divulges information, and is in the end, a contribution. But, as a mafia, you don't want enemies. I know this is apparently rocket science to you, but this is how it works. Tells work. I look at tells. Simple enough, END OF STORY.
5) I'll assume you meant to say "confusing" structure with make-out. Still, I have no idea what you're talking about. structure involves discussion about how many players, talking about the rules, theorizing about what kind of roles could exist, talking about a previous game...etc etc.
6) It's possible that I had a wishy washy post, but you are completely missing what I was saying about trucks. Trucks has done wishy washy accusations on every player EXCEPT people who have flipped scum. How does that not mean anything to you? I'd tell you why, but I don't want to see anymore of your butthurt. Fuck I'll say it anyway. BAD AT GAMES.
7) You think that is what I'm doing? MG was going to be lynched. I wanted MG to be lynched and you all went against it. It wasn't me who switched to ABC. I don't want a wasted lynch, so I put forward trucks. I would still rather have MG lynched than ABC, but I see that's not going to happen. You all care so much about lynching ABC.
8) Umm could you rephrase that? Did you mean, "someone who sticks so much to one target"? Because it looked like a slip. I'll assume you didn't slip, and respond by saying this. I would say it's a good reason to investigate more. Let's look at the context in which he was right, and see if he really was right. Let's go back and see when and who and why he was "right". Then in the event that I found that the player was targeting another player on day 1, and trying to push a lynch on him for two days, and then that player turned up scum, I'd say, "Hmm that doesn't look like a mafia that was trying to throw another mafia under the bus. It looks like a player who had a lead and wanted to follow it, and was right, and could be right about this other thing. I will take what he currently says under consideration and make up my own mind about the evidence he brings up, rather than completely ignoring his evidence because I 'think' he's scummy"
9) Same as 8. I'd look at what the player is doing. I'd also look at the data. I'd think of reasons why it might be important, and perhaps make my own theory about the lists. I wouldn't take the lists themselves as being very important, because it could be a ploy, and I would keep the player that asked for lists under watch, but I would approach it in a way that I can't possibly know what every player is thinking all the time, and understand that some players have different methods than I do.
A Bad Clown said:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3912881
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Well wouldnt you agree that he is doing that very same thing right now with Trucks?
Vetteman94 said:
Well wouldnt you agree that he is doing that very same thing right now with Trucks? |
Not as much, I mean last round he was all out at EVERYONE. He kept changing from one player to another but it kind of looks like he started to go for trucks because I suggested trucks could be mafia, rather than decide to do it himself.
19:44:34 | Skeezer | METAL GEAR ONLINE |
19:44:36 | Skeezer | FAILURE |
19:44:51 | ABadClown | You're right! |
19:44:55 | ABadClown | Hur hur hur |
19:45:01 | Skeezer | i meant |
19:45:04 | Skeezer | YOU ARE A FAILKURE |
19:45:08 | Skeezer | FAILURE* |
Unvote MG94
Vote: Trucks
Im willing to see where this takes us, I still like Metal_Gear as the better choice but its hard to argue with alot of what has been brought up.
I just have a bad feeling about the night is all
May I be the clarify I was the first to go after dsister? I went went of on him for the "not reading pm" thing as a way to not be targeted by the town.
19:44:34 | Skeezer | METAL GEAR ONLINE |
19:44:36 | Skeezer | FAILURE |
19:44:51 | ABadClown | You're right! |
19:44:55 | ABadClown | Hur hur hur |
19:45:01 | Skeezer | i meant |
19:45:04 | Skeezer | YOU ARE A FAILKURE |
19:45:08 | Skeezer | FAILURE* |
A Bad Clown said:
Not as much, I mean last round he was all out at EVERYONE. He kept changing from one player to another but it kind of looks like he started to go for trucks because I suggested trucks could be mafia, rather than decide to do it himself. |
Well he has gone after a few people this round and a some of them have turned up Mafia, so its there. But unlike other rounds, people in this round seem to be ignoring him. Until recently that is with all the trucks info he posted.
Vetteman94 said:
I find it interesting that all you did when you came back is make a comment about hephs post and make a vote. Why nothing about all the other info that has come forward? |
Well, prof's trucks analysis was pretty interesting...
Still I think ABC is our best bet for scum
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A Bad Clown said:
Not as much, I mean last round he was all out at EVERYONE. He kept changing from one player to another but it kind of looks like he started to go for trucks because I suggested trucks could be mafia, rather than decide to do it himself. |
Your post did help give me a push, that's for sure. But on't you ever confuse what you did, with my own initiative. I was the one who mentioned trucks in the first place. I have been following him since hatmoza listed him as his highest on his own trust-list. I said to myself, "why should trucks be up there". So I looked. I looked hard and thoroughly, and the evidence you see in front of you is the result of that inspection. I waited until the time was right though, because I wanted to lynch MG, and everything was going well UNTIL trucks and others pushed for ABC as a replacement.
That impediment forced me to push my schedule up, because I was hoping I'd be able to ride out today, and revisit him tomorrow. But his changing of my #1 suspect forced me make my move. My aggressiveness right now is a direct result of that interference.