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Wonktonodi on 24 March 2011
TruckOSaurus said:

So either the Mafia decided to kill Wonk or they didn't believe hatmoza and targetted him.

I wish I knew which one it is because if it's the second option it would make a bit less suspicious of A Bad Clown. Since he was already under heavy suspicion from the town, the Mafia would have most likely sent him to walk on the hatmoza mine.


But they could also try sending out someone who they don't think will be tracked.



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theprof00 on 24 March 2011

Also something to think about, when I asked notstan who he would've blocked, he said he'd have taken a chance and blocked MG.

So, here's another question:

How did the kills last night happen.

Based on the flavor, the person who attacked Hat said "for the dragonflight". Therefore, Hat was the mafia target.

So, dsis attacked Hat, and Hat killed dsis. Meanwhile something killed gniz, but vig or SK? 

The symbol makes me think of notorious thieves or killers who leave their calling card, but I can't make the leap in logic to say that was the SK. I don't believe that mafia would've moved to kill him. And no Heph, Jaina Proudmore is a renowned healer, yet Gniz purposely claimed and said his role and name didn't match up. If scum had read the lore, they should've understood that he would never have given out his name with a simple "my role and name don't match up", as well as his comment of "I guess this is the way it goes in non-powered games".

Still, I haven't quite figured out why he was targeted.



Wonktonodi on 24 March 2011
MetalGear_94 said:
Hephaestos said:


which part?

the 3 of the blackwing... same faction.

the list of 5 characters (all blackwing)

the comment on the orange (that's not from wow but from the day 1 joking...)

Nevermind, I think I get it

So your saying it's only one faction, and the rest of the blackwings are mafia


That would be one mafia group but that would still leave a SK or the very unlikely chance of a vig



A Bad Clown on 24 March 2011
theprof00 said:

Also something to think about, when I asked notstan who he would've blocked, he said he'd have taken a chance and blocked MG.

So, here's another question:

How did the kills last night happen.

Based on the flavor, the person who attacked Hat said "for the dragonflight". Therefore, Hat was the mafia target.

So, dsis attacked Hat, and Hat killed dsis. Meanwhile something killed gniz, but vig or SK? 

The symbol makes me think of notorious thieves or killers who leave their calling card, but I can't make the leap in logic to say that was the SK. I don't believe that mafia would've moved to kill him. And no Heph, Jaina Proudmore is a renowned healer, yet Gniz purposely claimed and said his role and name didn't match up. If scum had read the lore, they should've understood that he would never have given out his name with a simple "my role and name don't match up", as well as his comment of "I guess this is the way it goes in non-powered games".

Still, I haven't quite figured out why he was targeted.


Did he say this before or after he admitted he was mafia?



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MetalGear_94 on 24 March 2011
A Bad Clown said:


Did he say this before or after he admitted he was mafia?

No, He didn't even really admit he was mafia



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theprof00 on 24 March 2011
A Bad Clown said:
theprof00 said:

Also something to think about, when I asked notstan who he would've blocked, he said he'd have taken a chance and blocked MG.

So, here's another question:

How did the kills last night happen.

Based on the flavor, the person who attacked Hat said "for the dragonflight". Therefore, Hat was the mafia target.

So, dsis attacked Hat, and Hat killed dsis. Meanwhile something killed gniz, but vig or SK? 

The symbol makes me think of notorious thieves or killers who leave their calling card, but I can't make the leap in logic to say that was the SK. I don't believe that mafia would've moved to kill him. And no Heph, Jaina Proudmore is a renowned healer, yet Gniz purposely claimed and said his role and name didn't match up. If scum had read the lore, they should've understood that he would never have given out his name with a simple "my role and name don't match up", as well as his comment of "I guess this is the way it goes in non-powered games".

Still, I haven't quite figured out why he was targeted.


Did he say this before or after he admitted he was mafia?

before.

I said, "there is no way a roleblocker is town. Let me show you why. Nostan, who would you have blocked tonight".

He said, "I'd let the bodyguard do his thing, and take a chance on MG"



TruckOSaurus on 24 March 2011
Wonktonodi said:
TruckOSaurus said:

So either the Mafia decided to kill Wonk or they didn't believe hatmoza and targetted him.

I wish I knew which one it is because if it's the second option it would make a bit less suspicious of A Bad Clown. Since he was already under heavy suspicion from the town, the Mafia would have most likely sent him to walk on the hatmoza mine.


But they could also try sending out someone who they don't think will be tracked.

My point was that if you're taking the gamble of calling hatmoza's bluff you send your most vulnerable member thinking if he does get killed at least your other members are better hidden in the crowd.



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Wonktonodi on 24 March 2011
theprof00 said:

Also something to think about, when I asked notstan who he would've blocked, he said he'd have taken a chance and blocked MG.

So, here's another question:

How did the kills last night happen.

Based on the flavor, the person who attacked Hat said "for the dragonflight". Therefore, Hat was the mafia target.

So, dsis attacked Hat, and Hat killed dsis. Meanwhile something killed gniz, but vig or SK? 

The symbol makes me think of notorious thieves or killers who leave their calling card, but I can't make the leap in logic to say that was the SK. I don't believe that mafia would've moved to kill him. And no Heph, Jaina Proudmore is a renowned healer, yet Gniz purposely claimed and said his role and name didn't match up. If scum had read the lore, they should've understood that he would never have given out his name with a simple "my role and name don't match up", as well as his comment of "I guess this is the way it goes in non-powered games".

Still, I haven't quite figured out why he was targeted.

The flavor has hat talking quite a bit before the "for the dragonflight" line. So it very well could be hat incecepting dsis on his way to kill me.

Also there is still the possibility of it being a second mafia faction. It could be that there was 3 and 3. Well have a better idea of that tomorrow. 

So you're saying if scum read the lore they would have thought Gniz was bluffing a could have a healing role and thus have been a target?



theprof00 on 24 March 2011

Hatmoza: "If the person I Guard is killed, I'm also killed but I still kill them."

Mafia directly targeted Hatmoza



Wonktonodi on 24 March 2011
TruckOSaurus said:
Wonktonodi said:
TruckOSaurus said:

So either the Mafia decided to kill Wonk or they didn't believe hatmoza and targetted him.

I wish I knew which one it is because if it's the second option it would make a bit less suspicious of A Bad Clown. Since he was already under heavy suspicion from the town, the Mafia would have most likely sent him to walk on the hatmoza mine.


But they could also try sending out someone who they don't think will be tracked.

My point was that if you're taking the gamble of calling hatmoza's bluff you send your most vulnerable member thinking if he does get killed at least your other members are better hidden in the crowd.


True. So it could be me as the target or dsis was the most vulnerable of the remaining scum team.