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Count me out. I have not wasted money on games since I was a teenager thanks to reviews. :p



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@lordtheknight  who the hell said review scores and sales are tied??? that an insane thought to have. YOu can say that about any medium. Books, movies, music. I wanna see a quote because i dont believe there are people that crazy who really believe that

again i wanna see a quote cause i dont remember any dev saying this. (maybe EA???)



@chocoloo  man i wished i would have listened to reviews on the King of Fighters 12, that game really sucked. hell i think the reviews were too nice IMO



oniyide said:

@chocoloo  man i wished i would have listened to reviews on the King of Fighters 12, that game really sucked. hell i think the reviews were too nice IMO

Right,last time i didn't listen to reviews I bought Lost Planet 2 and I rented King of Fighters and I saw them as both crap right from the start.

As a kid I bought lots of trash games I didn't like because I had no source to tell give me help in choosing.



^^^ if 100 different people are telling you something sucks, it just might suck. Im not saying thats the case all of the time. I dont like MMOs so it doesnt matter to me how much rewards WOW gets i just dont like it. or NSMBWii, or HALO. Highly rated games that are just meh too me. But reading multiple reviews from multiple sources could give you a sense of the quality of the game. I might get flamed for this, but i think some people might have crappy taste in gaming and deep inside they know that, so they take their frustrations out on the reviewers who dont "get it". Hell i bought Time Crisis Razing Storm and that has a meta of like 60. I dont flame reviewers no matter how much i disagree



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oniyide said:

@lordtheknight  who the hell said review scores and sales are tied??? that an insane thought to have. YOu can say that about any medium. Books, movies, music. I wanna see a quote because i dont believe there are people that crazy who really believe that

again i wanna see a quote cause i dont remember any dev saying this. (maybe EA???)


Just because it's insane doesn't mean it isn't thought. Now it's not thinking there is any kind of direct score:sales ratio (if I implied that, I shouldn't have), but thinking that a game that has high scores must sell well (whether it's just over a million or ten million), and a game that has low scores must sell poorly (anything under a million). I see this all the time when these things don't happen, and the reveiws are brought as proof that this wasn't how the sales were "supposed" to go.

Sometimes developers or publishers will admit sales of a game aren't as good, but then bring up the reviews and wonder why it didn't sell better.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

oniyide said:

^^^ if 100 different people are telling you something sucks, it just might suck. Im not saying thats the case all of the time. I dont like MMOs so it doesnt matter to me how much rewards WOW gets i just dont like it. or NSMBWii, or HALO. Highly rated games that are just meh too me. But reading multiple reviews from multiple sources could give you a sense of the quality of the game. I might get flamed for this, but i think some people might have crappy taste in gaming and deep inside they know that, so they take their frustrations out on the reviewers who dont "get it". Hell i bought Time Crisis Razing Storm and that has a meta of like 60. I dont flame reviewers no matter how much i disagree


That does mean reviewers have crappy tastes as well, so they cannot be any more trustworthy than user reviews.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

^^^  i think its just devs get dissapointed when they put there work out and it doesnt do well, i dont believe its some mass thing where people are thinking sales must equal reviews. you might get a couple of people who say that, but thats it. 

reviewers could have poor taste. sure. IMHO though i see more biased in the user reviews more than anything. maybe ive been visiting IGN too much. ive seen user reviews for games that didnt even release yet. the BS doesnt get any stinkier than that. 



oniyide said:

^^^  i think its just devs get dissapointed when they put there work out and it doesnt do well, i dont believe its some mass thing where people are thinking sales must equal reviews. you might get a couple of people who say that, but thats it. 

reviewers could have poor taste. sure. IMHO though i see more biased in the user reviews more than anything. maybe ive been visiting IGN too much. ive seen user reviews for games that didnt even release yet. the BS doesnt get any stinkier than that. 


If there was no belief in a connection, there would not be the push for good scores from publishers. Plus I never claimed this was from developers alone. You get the complaining from people writing for blogs or on message boards, and even from people in the gaming companies, although they try to be more subtle about it.

Plus I'm going by use reviews from sites like Amazon.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

I agree gamers put too much empathize on review scores but that's totally the gaming publics fault. 

It's no different than movie reviews.   If people paid the same kind of adherence to movie reviewers as they do game reviewers then all Academy Award Nominees would be 100M movies and Transformers 2 and such would be megabombs.   But we don't pay movie reviewers that respect, because we know critically acclaimed movies, while good are somewhat boring (with some exceptions) and summer blockbusters while trash are fun to watch (usually)!

More casual gamers don't have this problem.  They look at Amazon reviews or word-of-mouth or just buy their favorite franchises.  It's not an issue.  

So why are we making it one?