wow, youre amazing. i just dont get it do you really refuse to accept realality. how is the burden of proof on me, ive posted facts, youve based you claims off ur instincts. the survey could have easily been biased against ps3 as well in fact that would be more probable, since game informer is a predomenently US read magazine, and guess what, that the xbox is strongest region, so logic would allow me to conclude that GI is read by my xbox fans.

your 2nd parapragh is just non sense, you dont have to be an expert to know your system broke, but u do have to know the rules of football to be able to acturately answer question about it. so i dont really get the point of saying that, they are 2 completely unrelated things.

i dont know if i can even take you seriously, you completely ignore facts, refuse to post counterfacts, and say people not knowing the rules to football is equivalent to people saying their console broke or not.

lets not forget, you are also saying forza is can be played 100% with kinect, and are comparing it to the 100% move compatible Killzone 3.

why do you think they predict elections and campain using surveys and poll because they are acurate.

the gizmodo one is not a pole, its how much the manufactures have said its broke, just because u refuse to accept the numbers doesnt mean its not true.

where are you numbers, please back up your ludicrous claims

Your sources are sources they are surveys. You are in america arent you? We know how your feelings on the xbox are. 

its an analogy forget it, It  basically means that surveys dont work for everything. 

You havent done any counterfacts you have provided me with surveys, i can go to 100 people and if no one has heard of the game deadspace it means it doesnt exist? Forza can play 100percent with Kinect, I told you that in the other thread and provided a video.

This response from you shows that I must simply ignore your future posts. Dont reply to mine in the future because I wont reply back. I will ask a moderator to make it easier for me if you continue to reply making sly remarks. Again dont bother replying to this or make a sly remark about me running away because I simply dont want to bang my head against the wall if I have to converse with you much longer.

I also dont want to get banned for saying something. So ciao for now. 

If you think ylod is anywhere as big as rrod then you are wrong. There are many reasons for it. No. 1: PS3 had a low userbase when it was selling the 60 GB models.

No. 2) Sony took steps so quickly that it is quite astounding, they had hardware changes in almost every new model. I was lucky enough to buy the 40 GB one since I usually buy the newer ones and I had a VERY bad experience with the 360 prior to the PS3's purchase. The 60 GB was available but it was discontinued and I thought why buy a discontinued model since it might have heat issues like the 360. I was careful enough.

No. 3) 360 did not competely eradicate this problem till the latest 360 model of the jasper chip and the 360 slim. There is no 3 year warranty for the slim, if you have noticed. 

The PS3 on the other hand released the slim only 2-3 years after launch and that is the model that has sold the most. So again, percentage decreased.

360 launched the jasper model 3 years(?) after launch and the slim 4.5 years after launch. By that time the damage done was high.

So overall, if you look at it logically, you would realise that the rrod problem is a lot bigger than ylod. I didn't even know about ylod's until 360 fanboys started quoting it for every rrod argument. I was like "wth is this sh*t ylod never heard of it".

RROD was everywhere on the news and the internets so much that MS had to announce a 3 year warranty otherwise they wouldn't have even managed to sell half of what they have right now. The bad word of mouth would have killed it.

I agree as the 360 has the ATI chip there will be heating issues imo. ATI is not a cool card. 360 should have acted quicker than they did, as far as I remember they almost denied it to begin with. They made steps around it eventually and extended the warranty. 

RROD was bad of course it was, that was never my original statement, YLOD was the closest thing that PS3 has had with it hence the joke.... this turned into shite fast for no reason

thank you for saying i have source. i will point out you have none.

asking people about football rules isnt a survey, and it cannot at all be used to make the xbox fail% seem un reliable.

no, but if you survey, say 5000 xbox owners and ask them if their xbox has broke, and 55% reply yes, then u could be rest assured that the actual fail rate will be pretty close to that. thats why people use surverys.

again with your complete fallacies, forza is NOT completely kinect compatible. you cant controll you speed or anything, how many times do i have to tell you, that its a kinect arcade mode with steer assist and you have no control over speed.

so are you saying you now want to reply back to my comments? why thank you, im always up for a lively debate

i love how this turned into a RROD issue, lets say 360's failure rate was not as high as 50%, it still has the worst failure of any home console mad since probably the orginal PS

I will say that they should have skipped PC. The controls are way to console oriented.

yup not disagreeing with this. This originated from my joke that like the RROD in Bulletstorm they should have maybe put the YLOD in the PS3 version has a subtle joke. Someone took it personally and here we are :-/

Yeah I agree you were attacked unnecessarily. But $599 joke would have been a lot better lol.