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osamanobama said:

lol, the irony, your the one that is completely ignoring facts.

you cant just act like rrod wasnt that big and ylod was almost as significant. it wasnt/isnt and thats fact


Dont put words in my post. 

I didnt say YLOD was as significant as RROD, I did say that both were issues that could been made a joke of. You said that YLOD wasnt apparent, that it didnt affect many people, someone else said that only 2 Major articles were about it. 

You are trying to downplay the extent of YLOD and up the extent of RROD.

Was RROD bad? Yes. Did Ms make steps to fix it? Yes. 

Was YLOD bad? Yes, Did Sony take steps to fix it? As far as I know



 

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osamanobama said:

you have a source form that, its funny how you just ignore things and say they arent true if what they say isnt to your liking


your source you are using is a bloody survey, some of the people might have been anti ms. Seriously wtf man



 

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osamanobama said:

are you saying that my head is burried in sand? 

if so i dont know why. i realize the dates of the sources i posted, and i know that fail rates for both systems have gone done. by how much, dont know


He is talking about me. He is more or less saying I am ignoring the "facts" except that 54.2 percent was a survey of 5000 people.  The official stats arent that high, unless you have a source with proper numbers. 



 

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AussieGecko said:
osamanobama said:

lol, the irony, your the one that is completely ignoring facts.

you cant just act like rrod wasnt that big and ylod was almost as significant. it wasnt/isnt and thats fact


Dont put words in my post. 

I didnt say YLOD was as significant as RROD, I did say that both were issues that could been made a joke of. You said that YLOD wasnt apparent, that it didnt affect many people, someone else said that only 2 Major articles were about it. 

You are trying to downplay the extent of YLOD and up the extent of RROD.

Was RROD bad? Yes. Did Ms make steps to fix it? Yes. 

Was YLOD bad? Yes, Did Sony take steps to fix it? As far as I know

yes , as far as you know. the problem is, you dont.

im not down playing  ylod or up playing rrod. i showing them to be axactly what the are.

and as far as i know 55% is a whole lot bigger than 10%, but what do i know im just basing this off my gut feeling, its not like i have posted sources.... oh wait



osamanobama said:
Attoyou said:
osamanobama said:
AussieGecko said:
thismeintiel said:

I don't think he was getting defensive.  Besides which would gamers get more?  A joke about a problem that occurred to more than 30-40% of early 360 adopters and was HIGHLY publicised, or something that happened to ~ 8-10% of early PS3 adopters and really only had one or 2 major stories about it?  I'm going to go with the first one.  His suggestion of making a joke about the $599 price tag is valid, though, as that was a big topic of ridicule when the PS3 first hit the scene.


You know what I am not having this conversation, too many ps3 fans will come and support your point of view. Even if I bring a valid point of view it will be slammed. 

Thus exiting now. I was simply putting a joke up, anytime anything even jokingly is negative about ps3 and positive for 360 or in this case negative for both Osamaobama chimes in and that seems to occur quite frequently to the point of annoyance.

And 30-40 percent bring stats up for that, and 2 major stories, I could find 10 with a simple search... come on man dont down play something that happened with about 8-10percent of consoles (your own percentage)

You know what don't bother, I am over these conversations

these arent his numbers there real gameinformer said >54% of xbox owner got RROD

comparred to 10.3% for ps3.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/17/game-informer-xbox-360-at-54-2-percent-failure-rate/

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/101/1014486p1.html



are you saying that my head is burried in sand? 

if so i dont know why. i realize the dates of the sources i posted, and i know that fail rates for both systems have gone done. by how much, dont know

No, not you.



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AussieGecko said:
osamanobama said:

are you saying that my head is burried in sand? 

if so i dont know why. i realize the dates of the sources i posted, and i know that fail rates for both systems have gone done. by how much, dont know


He is talking about me. He is more or less saying I am ignoring the "facts" except that 54.2 percent was a survey of 5000 people.  The official stats arent that high, unless you have a source with proper numbers. 


so what are the official stats, please i would like to know, since your opinion is more correct than actually sources.

also, you may not know how surveys and polls work, but they dont actually need the entire userbase to have acturate numbers. its called a sample size, of the entire group.

and if we based it off feeling the people on joystick thought that number was REALLY low, because for them its 100%.

yeah, i think i will go with that number, 100% of xbox break, and only 1% ps3. because i say so



osamanobama said:

yes , as far as you know. the problem is, you dont.

im not down playing  ylod or up playing rrod. i showing them to be axactly what the are.

and as far as i know 55% is a whole lot bigger than 10%, but what do i know im just basing this off my gut feeling, its not like i have posted sources.... oh wait


I was defending Sony, I assumed they wouldnt let it run rampant... Are you serious?

now its up to 55percent. You displayed a freaking survey. Give me hard evidence or dont talk abotu what you dont know



 

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osamanobama said:


so what are the official stats, please i would like to know, since your opinion is more correct than actually sources.

also, you may not know how surveys and polls work, but they dont actually need the entire userbase to have acturate numbers. its called a sample size, of the entire group.

and if we based it off feeling the people on joystick thought that number was REALLY low, because for them its 100%.

yeah, i think i will go with that number, 100% of xbox break, and only 1% ps3. because i say so


You made the outlandish comment of 54.2 percent so its up to you to find out. You went off a survey... a survey come on man, if you want to display that RROD is anywhere near where you said it was give me hard evidence the onus is on you. 

Yes in this case you do need the official numbers, surveys are simply that, anybody can take them. Why dont I go to the US and ask people what they think of Australian Rules Football... because they dont know truly what it is doesnt mean Australia doesnt. 

Surveys are good in some factors not in all. In this case you cant rely on surveys as some people can be bias in their responses. Your last sentence... really?



 

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AussieGecko said:
osamanobama said:

yes , as far as you know. the problem is, you dont.

im not down playing  ylod or up playing rrod. i showing them to be axactly what the are.

and as far as i know 55% is a whole lot bigger than 10%, but what do i know im just basing this off my gut feeling, its not like i have posted sources.... oh wait


I was defending Sony, I assumed they wouldnt let it run rampant... Are you serious?

now its up to 55percent. You displayed a freaking survey. Give me hard evidence or dont talk abotu what you dont know

http://gizmodo.com/#!271487/xbox-360-failure-rate-30-says-retailers

http://www.destructoid.com/new-survey-puts-xbox-360-failure-rate-at-42--171088.phtml

http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/2009/08/19/survey-xbox-360-failure-rate-is-54-2/

http://www.walletpop.com/2010/05/19/does-the-xbox-360-failure-rate-make-it-a-bad-buy/

http://www.ripten.com/2007/07/03/failure-rate-xbox-360-high-as-33-sony-ps3-less-than-1/

jeeze, what does it take to prove to u that rrod is  monterously bigger ploblem than ylod has or will ever be.

and why is it that i alsways laugh when i hear YOU say things like dont talk about things you dont know



osamanobama said:

http://gizmodo.com/#!271487/xbox-360-failure-rate-30-says-retailers

http://www.destructoid.com/new-survey-puts-xbox-360-failure-rate-at-42--171088.phtml

http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/2009/08/19/survey-xbox-360-failure-rate-is-54-2/

http://www.walletpop.com/2010/05/19/does-the-xbox-360-failure-rate-make-it-a-bad-buy/

http://www.ripten.com/2007/07/03/failure-rate-xbox-360-high-as-33-sony-ps3-less-than-1/

jeeze, what does it take to prove to u that rrod is  monterously bigger ploblem than ylod has or will ever be.

and why is it that i alsways laugh when i hear YOU say things like dont talk about things you dont know

Ripten site has no sources... trying to find out why they think 33 <- they have no sources

Walletpop <- survey therefore discounted 

blog.seattlepi <- survey

destructoid <- Survey

gizmodo <- retailer survey more or less

Give me hard evidence from MS or you can stop with your argument



 

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