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Sony's plan to usurp 3DS with their PSP2 revealed

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Khuutra said:
psrock said:

Let's regress for a second, what are we arguing about? 

We all know, 3DS won't even come close to NGP graphics wise, it seems the concern is the team that would be working on the NGP games are not the top team who works on the the console. I actually agree on that as Sony needs to give the same importance as PS3 as with NGP. Funny though, the best GOW, the best Resistance, The best Killzone are all from the PSP. 

So is Ghost of Sparta really all that?

I kind of assumed it was of a scale similar to the first PSP game.

Edit: Chains of Olympus. I forgot its name for like two minutes straight, that was bugging me.

The story in ghost of sparta is 3x better than GOW3. And trust me, it's an amazing looking game on the PSP. 



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dahuman said:
Khuutra said:
psrock said:

Let's regress for a second, what are we arguing about? 

We all know, 3DS won't even come close to NGP graphics wise, it seems the concern is the team that would be working on the NGP games are not the top team who works on the the console. I actually agree on that as Sony needs to give the same importance as PS3 as with NGP. Funny though, the best GOW, the best Resistance, The best Killzone are all from the PSP. 

So is Ghost of Sparta really all that?

I kind of assumed it was of a scale similar to the first PSP game.

Edit: Chains of Olympus. I forgot its name for like two minutes straight, that was bugging me.

No, Ghost of Sparta wasn't all that, I'd rather play a game like Ghost Trick on a hand held and leave God of War for my PS3 to handle because 3 really is a nice looking game. If NGP is still going the route of that kind of experience on a handheld, they are going to get ass fucked again outside Japan (Assuming MH is not on 3DS.) They need good portable games, which is something I've been saying for months and months. THEY NEED TO MATCH NINTENDO ON "PORTABLE" GAMES!

kind of funny from someone who just posted 2 resident evil games on the 3DS. Listen, what Sony needs is to balance out the type of games they release. People forget that this was their first handheld and one that is about to sell 70 million. All NGP needs is Sony to support it just like they do the PS3. 



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nitekrawler1285 said:
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You are clearly missing my point then, I don't care if you are impressed or not, my point is people who compare the PSP to the 3DS are some of the most unique people in the head. We all know art style triumph over anything else, but when it comes to actual hardware power, some are simply clueless, to say the 3DS is not a big jump over the PSP when the generation gap is so apparent is simply due to anti-Nintendo-ism or nostalgia-goggles instead of working based off logic and reason.


Art style does triumph over anything else. I'm not saying that the 3DS isn't more powerful than the PSP.  I'm just saying that I barely see it.  That's what makes the difference marginal for me. 

Those people aren't that crazy in the head.  They are comparing 3DS to it's closest handheld competitor and in the the graphics dept so far while technically it's winning it doesn't APPEAR to be by leaps and bounds that the hardware would lead one to believe.


Actually, it about the gap of a Gamecube to a Xbox360, people are just used to HD consoles now so they don't see the gap as much, then again I don't see much gap on NGP demos to some 3DS games either, but I can see the details clearly being much higher than any PSP game on the NGP or 3DS. People just don't want to see it, people mentally brush it off, because it's Nintendo =P. Not to mention none of us have actually seen it in 3D outside of the very few people.


I don't see much of a gap between the NGP and the 3DS myself.  Not one that the specs would indicate.  The only reason I'm excited for NGP is that I'm loving PS3's PSN games more and more and the idea of being able to play pixeljunk shooter 1&2 and slam bolt scrappers where ever I may happen to be is orgasm inducing.  Plus some mobile games look cool but they are action games and I would want buttons and a dpad for that.

I just can't be mad at people who don't see that big a difference cause i barely do myself. I'm not entirely sure it boils down to an anti-Nintendo bias though. On a 3-5 inch screen I don't think half these damn shaders and shit will mean anything really.  I only hope that the ability to render more things at once will have a great effect on gameplay at somepoint. Dead Rising 3 NGP here I come.



nitekrawler1285 said:
dahuman said:


Actually, it about the gap of a Gamecube to a Xbox360, people are just used to HD consoles now so they don't see the gap as much, then again I don't see much gap on NGP demos to some 3DS games either, but I can see the details clearly being much higher than any PSP game on the NGP or 3DS. People just don't want to see it, people mentally brush it off, because it's Nintendo =P. Not to mention none of us have actually seen it in 3D outside of the very few people.


I don't see much of a gap between the NGP and the 3DS myself.  Not one that the specs would indicate.  The only reason I'm excited for NGP is that I'm loving PS3's PSN games more and more and the idea of being able to play pixeljunk shooter 1&2 and slam bolt scrappers where ever I may happen to be is orgasm inducing.  Plus some mobile games look cool but they are action games and I would want buttons and a dpad for that.

I just can't be mad at people who don't see that big a difference cause i barely do myself. I'm not entirely sure it boils down to an anti-Nintendo bias though. On a 3-5 inch screen I don't think half these damn shaders and shit will mean anything really.  I only hope that the ability to render more things at once will have a great effect on gameplay at somepoint. Dead Rising 3 NGP here I come.

Well, my point still stands.  In terms of polys and textures (though on both systems textures are hit or miss), yes the 3DS is better, but its not leagues beyond the PSP.  I have noticed a trend in some 3DS games where it seems a lot is pumped into the main character, while the backgrounds and enemies don't see nearly as much love.  Which really isn't that big a deal, I mean the main character is always there onscreen for the whole game.  Also, what makes the biggest difference, which I don't think many people understand, is the improved AA and shaders.  If PSP were able to pull off the same level of AA and shading, then most of you would truly not see much difference in the other departments, either.

I do see a bigger jump when going from 3DS to NGP.  It has a much higher poly count and can pull off better textures.  Of course with a bigger, higher res screen you're going to be able to tell the difference better.  And if it couldn't pull that off, those games would look pretty bad.



psrock said:
Khuutra said:

So is Ghost of Sparta really all that?

I kind of assumed it was of a scale similar to the first PSP game.

Edit: Chains of Olympus. I forgot its name for like two minutes straight, that was bugging me.

The story in ghost of sparta is 3x better than GOW3. And trust me, it's an amazing looking game on the PSP.

I appreciate learning that story and graphics were handled well, but what I meant to ask is if Ghost of Sparta is better than its console brethren, particularly in terms of action and scale.



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Khuutra said:
psrock said:
Khuutra said:

So is Ghost of Sparta really all that?

I kind of assumed it was of a scale similar to the first PSP game.

Edit: Chains of Olympus. I forgot its name for like two minutes straight, that was bugging me.

The story in ghost of sparta is 3x better than GOW3. And trust me, it's an amazing looking game on the PSP.

I appreciate learning that story and graphics were handled well, but what I meant to ask is if Ghost of Sparta is better than its console brethren, particularly in terms of action and scale.


you are asking me if the PSP is has better action or scale than a PS3 game? 



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psrock said:
Khuutra said:
psrock said:

The story in ghost of sparta is 3x better than GOW3. And trust me, it's an amazing looking game on the PSP.

I appreciate learning that story and graphics were handled well, but what I meant to ask is if Ghost of Sparta is better than its console brethren, particularly in terms of action and scale.

you are asking me if the PSP is has better action or scale than a PS3 game? 

Scale is an intrinsic part of God of War and action is its bread and butter; I don't expect scale, but action? After a line like "Funny though, the best GOW, the best Resistance, The best Killzone are all from the PSP. "? Yes. Yes, I expect you to tell me it does better action.

Hell, GoW2's action was just as good as GoW3's.



Khuutra said:
psrock said:
Khuutra said:
psrock said:

The story in ghost of sparta is 3x better than GOW3. And trust me, it's an amazing looking game on the PSP.

I appreciate learning that story and graphics were handled well, but what I meant to ask is if Ghost of Sparta is better than its console brethren, particularly in terms of action and scale.

you are asking me if the PSP is has better action or scale than a PS3 game? 

Scale is an intrinsic part of God of War and action is its bread and butter; I don't expect scale, but action? After a line like "Funny though, the best GOW, the best Resistance, The best Killzone are all from the PSP. "? Yes. Yes, I expect you to tell me it does better action.

Hell, GoW2's action was just as good as GoW3's.

It's the same action, why would it change? In term of scale, well HD vs mobile, go figure. But I am amazed how deep and action pack a PSP game can get. It is truly impressive. 



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psrock said:
Khuutra said:
psrock said:

you are asking me if the PSP is has better action or scale than a PS3 game? 

Scale is an intrinsic part of God of War and action is its bread and butter; I don't expect scale, but action? After a line like "Funny though, the best GOW, the best Resistance, The best Killzone are all from the PSP. "? Yes. Yes, I expect you to tell me it does better action.

Hell, GoW2's action was just as good as GoW3's.

It's the same action, why would it change? In term of scale, well HD vs mobile, go figure. But I am amazed how deep and action pack a PSP game can get. It is truly impressive.

Let me rephrase this one more time.

In what way besides writing is Ghost of Sparta better than the console trilogy?



Khuutra said:
psrock said:
Khuutra said:
psrock said:

you are asking me if the PSP is has better action or scale than a PS3 game? 

Scale is an intrinsic part of God of War and action is its bread and butter; I don't expect scale, but action? After a line like "Funny though, the best GOW, the best Resistance, The best Killzone are all from the PSP. "? Yes. Yes, I expect you to tell me it does better action.

Hell, GoW2's action was just as good as GoW3's.

It's the same action, why would it change? In term of scale, well HD vs mobile, go figure. But I am amazed how deep and action pack a PSP game can get. It is truly impressive.

Let me rephrase this one more time.

In what way besides writing is Ghost of Sparta better than the console trilogy?

Same action,  better story. 



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