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Sony's plan to usurp 3DS with their PSP2 revealed

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Let's regress for a second, what are we arguing about? 

We all know, 3DS won't even come close to NGP graphics wise, it seems the concern is the team that would be working on the NGP games are not the top team who works on the the console. I actually agree on that as Sony needs to give the same importance as PS3 as with NGP. Funny though, the best GOW, the best Resistance, The best Killzone are all from the PSP. 



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It's nice to see people getting all worked up in a joke thread, that's for sure...... and I don't even know why people are comparing the 3DS to a PSP, you might not like Nintendo, but PSP can't even handle the title screen of a lot of Capcom's first gen 3DS games /shrug. Oh snap! See what I did there? The funny shit is I don't see any NGP game that's miles ahead of some 3DS games either, welcome to fucking portable gaming, where the screen is super small that you can't see shit without trained PC eyes anyways.



MaxwellGT2000 said:

Uh Doom 3 has bad textures like the rest of those Xbox games I showed off and their models aren't that great compared to today's standards which is what the 3DS is living up to....

I'm just going to stop replying to you now cause you're just so far gone that you're even posting videos that look better and thinking they do, not to mention they don't do more on a technical level, I'm guessing either you don't know what being superior on a technical level is or you're grounded so deeply against the 3DS it isn't even funny, and either way it makes any "disscussion" with you pretty much pointless on my end, since I'll post proof for it to only be rejected, while I'll still be open minded if someone could actually prove my point wrong. 


Honestly that video of RE:M isn't doing much for your arguments MaxwellGT2000.  The meshes look kinda blocky and the textures look washed out on top of what seem to be very meh particle effects. I remember back when the 3DS was announced you and I were having the same argument over 3DS graphics.  You told me to look at RE videos as if I hadn't seen them. Maybe you are the one posting videos and thinking they look better than they do.



nitekrawler1285 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
 

Uh Doom 3 has bad textures like the rest of those Xbox games I showed off and their models aren't that great compared to today's standards which is what the 3DS is living up to....

I'm just going to stop replying to you now cause you're just so far gone that you're even posting videos that look better and thinking they do, not to mention they don't do more on a technical level, I'm guessing either you don't know what being superior on a technical level is or you're grounded so deeply against the 3DS it isn't even funny, and either way it makes any "disscussion" with you pretty much pointless on my end, since I'll post proof for it to only be rejected, while I'll still be open minded if someone could actually prove my point wrong. 


Honestly that video of RE:M isn't doing much for your arguments MaxwellGT2000.  The meshes look kinda blocky and the textures look washed out on top of what seem to be very meh particle effects. I remember back when the 3DS was announced you and I were having the same argument over 3DS graphics.  You told me to look at RE videos as if I hadn't seen them. Maybe you are the one posting videos and thinking they look better than they do.


He kinda posted a shitty looking video tough, here is a better one:

then here is Revelations:

and here's Cammy's sweet ass:

 

I mean, here are things that the original Xbox can't even attempt to pull off even if it rendered in a lower resolution, on a MULTIPLAT engine and people are all like "ONLY A TINY BETTER THAN PSP YOZ!" when we all know the PSP is in fact weaker than a PS2 already, on top of the Xbox and Gamecube both outpower the PS2 by a large margin last gen. People are smart.

 

PS: not to mention RE:M and RE:R were both not final codes, M was like 60-70% during showing and R was about 35%, which means they can easily get better before release too.



dahuman said:
nitekrawler1285 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
 

Uh Doom 3 has bad textures like the rest of those Xbox games I showed off and their models aren't that great compared to today's standards which is what the 3DS is living up to....

I'm just going to stop replying to you now cause you're just so far gone that you're even posting videos that look better and thinking they do, not to mention they don't do more on a technical level, I'm guessing either you don't know what being superior on a technical level is or you're grounded so deeply against the 3DS it isn't even funny, and either way it makes any "disscussion" with you pretty much pointless on my end, since I'll post proof for it to only be rejected, while I'll still be open minded if someone could actually prove my point wrong. 


Honestly that video of RE:M isn't doing much for your arguments MaxwellGT2000.  The meshes look kinda blocky and the textures look washed out on top of what seem to be very meh particle effects. I remember back when the 3DS was announced you and I were having the same argument over 3DS graphics.  You told me to look at RE videos as if I hadn't seen them. Maybe you are the one posting videos and thinking they look better than they do.


He kinda posted a shitty looking video tough, here is a better one:

then here is Revelations:

and here's Cammy's sweet ass:

 

I mean, here are things that the original Xbox can't even attempt to pull off even if it rendered in a lower resolution, on a MULTIPLAT engine and people are all like "ONLY A TINY BETTER THAN PSP YOZ!" when we all know the PSP is in fact weaker than a PS2 already, on top of the Xbox and Gamecube both outpower the PS2 by a large margin last gen. People are smart.

 

PS: not to mention RE:M and RE:R were both not final codes, M was like 60-70% during showing and R was about 35%, which means they can easily get better before release too.

I have already seen these higher resolution videos of RE.  I'm just not that impressed. 



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psrock said:

Let's regress for a second, what are we arguing about? 

We all know, 3DS won't even come close to NGP graphics wise, it seems the concern is the team that would be working on the NGP games are not the top team who works on the the console. I actually agree on that as Sony needs to give the same importance as PS3 as with NGP. Funny though, the best GOW, the best Resistance, The best Killzone are all from the PSP. 

So is Ghost of Sparta really all that?

I kind of assumed it was of a scale similar to the first PSP game.

Edit: Chains of Olympus. I forgot its name for like two minutes straight, that was bugging me.



nitekrawler1285 said:
dahuman said:
nitekrawler1285 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
 

Uh Doom 3 has bad textures like the rest of those Xbox games I showed off and their models aren't that great compared to today's standards which is what the 3DS is living up to....

I'm just going to stop replying to you now cause you're just so far gone that you're even posting videos that look better and thinking they do, not to mention they don't do more on a technical level, I'm guessing either you don't know what being superior on a technical level is or you're grounded so deeply against the 3DS it isn't even funny, and either way it makes any "disscussion" with you pretty much pointless on my end, since I'll post proof for it to only be rejected, while I'll still be open minded if someone could actually prove my point wrong. 


Honestly that video of RE:M isn't doing much for your arguments MaxwellGT2000.  The meshes look kinda blocky and the textures look washed out on top of what seem to be very meh particle effects. I remember back when the 3DS was announced you and I were having the same argument over 3DS graphics.  You told me to look at RE videos as if I hadn't seen them. Maybe you are the one posting videos and thinking they look better than they do.


He kinda posted a shitty looking video tough, here is a better one:

then here is Revelations:

and here's Cammy's sweet ass:

 

I mean, here are things that the original Xbox can't even attempt to pull off even if it rendered in a lower resolution, on a MULTIPLAT engine and people are all like "ONLY A TINY BETTER THAN PSP YOZ!" when we all know the PSP is in fact weaker than a PS2 already, on top of the Xbox and Gamecube both outpower the PS2 by a large margin last gen. People are smart.

 

PS: not to mention RE:M and RE:R were both not final codes, M was like 60-70% during showing and R was about 35%, which means they can easily get better before release too.

I have already seen these higher resolution videos of RE.  I'm just not that impressed. 


You are clearly missing my point then, I don't care if you are impressed or not, my point is people who compare the PSP to the 3DS are some of the most unique people in the head. We all know art style triumph over anything else, but when it comes to actual hardware power, some are simply clueless, to say the 3DS is not a big jump over the PSP when the generation gap is so apparent is simply due to anti-Nintendo-ism or nostalgia-goggles instead of working based off logic and reason.



Khuutra said:
psrock said:

Let's regress for a second, what are we arguing about? 

We all know, 3DS won't even come close to NGP graphics wise, it seems the concern is the team that would be working on the NGP games are not the top team who works on the the console. I actually agree on that as Sony needs to give the same importance as PS3 as with NGP. Funny though, the best GOW, the best Resistance, The best Killzone are all from the PSP. 

So is Ghost of Sparta really all that?

I kind of assumed it was of a scale similar to the first PSP game.

Edit: Chains of Olympus. I forgot its name for like two minutes straight, that was bugging me.

No, Ghost of Sparta wasn't all that, I'd rather play a game like Ghost Trick on a hand held and leave God of War for my PS3 to handle because 3 really is a nice looking game. If NGP is still going the route of that kind of experience on a handheld, they are going to get ass fucked again outside Japan (Assuming MH is not on 3DS.) They need good portable games, which is something I've been saying for months and months. THEY NEED TO MATCH NINTENDO ON "PORTABLE" GAMES!



dahuman said:


You are clearly missing my point then, I don't care if you are impressed or not, my point is people who compare the PSP to the 3DS are some of the most unique people in the head. We all know art style triumph over anything else, but when it comes to actual hardware power, some are simply clueless, to say the 3DS is not a big jump over the PSP when the generation gap is so apparent is simply due to anti-Nintendo-ism or nostalgia-goggles instead of working based off logic and reason.


Art style does triumph over anything else. I'm not saying that the 3DS isn't more powerful than the PSP.  I'm just saying that I barely see it.  That's what makes the difference marginal for me. 

Those people aren't that crazy in the head.  They are comparing 3DS to it's closest handheld competitor and in the the graphics dept so far while technically it's winning it doesn't APPEAR to be by leaps and bounds that the hardware would lead one to believe.



nitekrawler1285 said:
dahuman said:
 


You are clearly missing my point then, I don't care if you are impressed or not, my point is people who compare the PSP to the 3DS are some of the most unique people in the head. We all know art style triumph over anything else, but when it comes to actual hardware power, some are simply clueless, to say the 3DS is not a big jump over the PSP when the generation gap is so apparent is simply due to anti-Nintendo-ism or nostalgia-goggles instead of working based off logic and reason.


Art style does triumph over anything else. I'm not saying that the 3DS isn't more powerful than the PSP.  I'm just saying that I barely see it.  That's what makes the difference marginal for me. 

Those people aren't that crazy in the head.  They are comparing 3DS to it's closest handheld competitor and in the the graphics dept so far while technically it's winning it doesn't APPEAR to be by leaps and bounds that the hardware would lead one to believe.


Actually, it about the gap of a Gamecube to a Xbox360, people are just used to HD consoles now so they don't see the gap as much, then again I don't see much gap on NGP demos to some 3DS games either, but I can see the details clearly being much higher than any PSP game on the NGP or 3DS. People just don't want to see it, people mentally brush it off, because it's Nintendo =P. Not to mention none of us have actually seen it in 3D outside of the very few people.