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Baalzamon on 17 March 2011

Thought I'd suggest another book to you guys...Flyboys: A True Story of Courage...I had to read it for a history class, and surprisingly came to really enjoy the book.



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Khuutra on 17 March 2011

Steven Erikson beggars every other fantasy writer in terms of sheer, horrifying scope and import and the vast ideas that he throws around like so much rice at a wedding.

I'll finish Toll the Hounds tomorrow, but when a savage, 11,000 page story like this one is the barest footnote in the context of an enormous, never-ending conflict, and the story keeps hitting you over and over and over with nre revelations

The Jaghut, my God the Jaghut.



sapphi_snake on 18 March 2011
Khuutra said:

Steven Erikson beggars every other fantasy writer in terms of sheer, horrifying scope and import and the vast ideas that he throws around like so much rice at a wedding.

I'll finish Toll the Hounds tomorrow, but when a savage, 11,000 page story like this one is the barest footnote in the context of an enormous, never-ending conflict, and the story keeps hitting you over and over and over with nre revelations

The Jaghut, my God the Jaghut.

O_o

Are you serious???



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Baalzamon on 18 March 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Khuutra said:

Steven Erikson beggars every other fantasy writer in terms of sheer, horrifying scope and import and the vast ideas that he throws around like so much rice at a wedding.

I'll finish Toll the Hounds tomorrow, but when a savage, 11,000 page story like this one is the barest footnote in the context of an enormous, never-ending conflict, and the story keeps hitting you over and over and over with nre revelations

The Jaghut, my God the Jaghut.

O_o

Are you serious???

Pretty sure he is, the series I'm reading is massively long too, and although it allows for tons of storyline, sometimes it seems to start dragging on in parts.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

sapphi_snake on 18 March 2011
Baalzamon said:
sapphi_snake said:
Khuutra said:

Steven Erikson beggars every other fantasy writer in terms of sheer, horrifying scope and import and the vast ideas that he throws around like so much rice at a wedding.

I'll finish Toll the Hounds tomorrow, but when a savage, 11,000 page story like this one is the barest footnote in the context of an enormous, never-ending conflict, and the story keeps hitting you over and over and over with nre revelations

The Jaghut, my God the Jaghut.

O_o

Are you serious???

Pretty sure he is, the series I'm reading is massively long too, and although it allows for tons of storyline, sometimes it seems to start dragging on in parts.

Ah, well if it's a series then it's understandable. I thought it was just one book.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

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Khuutra on 18 March 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Khuutra said:

Steven Erikson beggars every other fantasy writer in terms of sheer, horrifying scope and import and the vast ideas that he throws around like so much rice at a wedding.

I'll finish Toll the Hounds tomorrow, but when a savage, 11,000 page story like this one is the barest footnote in the context of an enormous, never-ending conflict, and the story keeps hitting you over and over and over with nre revelations

The Jaghut, my God the Jaghut.

O_o

Are you serious???

Yes. It is a ten-book series, the first nine of which total 10k-11k pages.



sapphi_snake on 18 March 2011
Khuutra said:
sapphi_snake said:
Khuutra said:

Steven Erikson beggars every other fantasy writer in terms of sheer, horrifying scope and import and the vast ideas that he throws around like so much rice at a wedding.

I'll finish Toll the Hounds tomorrow, but when a savage, 11,000 page story like this one is the barest footnote in the context of an enormous, never-ending conflict, and the story keeps hitting you over and over and over with nre revelations

The Jaghut, my God the Jaghut.

O_o

Are you serious???

Yes. It is a ten-book series, the first nine of which total 10k-11k pages.

I initially thought that you meant you read a single 11.ooo page book. That's all been cleared up now.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

haxxiy on 18 March 2011
Khuutra said:

Steven Erikson beggars every other fantasy writer in terms of sheer, horrifying scope and import and the vast ideas that he throws around like so much rice at a wedding.

I'll finish Toll the Hounds tomorrow, but when a savage, 11,000 page story like this one is the barest footnote in the context of an enormous, never-ending conflict, and the story keeps hitting you over and over and over with nre revelations

The Jaghut, my God the Jaghut.


Yeah that's why he is possibly my favorite writer. My only gripes are some weird names (Darujistan and Whiskeyjack come to mind) and the way he sometimes borrow from hollywoodian endings to finish his own books. The only one who possibly comes closer in fantasy is George Martin, who excels in characters / intrigues and complexity but lacks a bit of the magical, epic scope of, say, Erikson and Jordan, though he seems to be moving towards it. 



 

 

 

 

 

Khuutra on 18 March 2011
haxxiy said:
Khuutra said:

Steven Erikson beggars every other fantasy writer in terms of sheer, horrifying scope and import and the vast ideas that he throws around like so much rice at a wedding.

I'll finish Toll the Hounds tomorrow, but when a savage, 11,000 page story like this one is the barest footnote in the context of an enormous, never-ending conflict, and the story keeps hitting you over and over and over with nre revelations

The Jaghut, my God the Jaghut.

Yeah that's why he is possibly my favorite writer. My only gripes are some weird names (Darujistan and Whiskeyjack come to mind) and the way he sometimes borrow from hollywoodian endings to finish his own books. The only one who possibly comes closer in fantasy is George Martin, who excels in characters / intrigues and complexity but lacks a bit of the magical, epic scope of, say, Erikson and Jordan, though he seems to be moving towards it. 

Erikson has the advantage of providing an excellent sense of cultural diversity, as if he has created a world.

I do not think I would compare Jordan to either him or Martin.



haxxiy on 18 March 2011
Khuutra said:
haxxiy said:
Khuutra said:

Steven Erikson beggars every other fantasy writer in terms of sheer, horrifying scope and import and the vast ideas that he throws around like so much rice at a wedding.

I'll finish Toll the Hounds tomorrow, but when a savage, 11,000 page story like this one is the barest footnote in the context of an enormous, never-ending conflict, and the story keeps hitting you over and over and over with nre revelations

The Jaghut, my God the Jaghut.

Yeah that's why he is possibly my favorite writer. My only gripes are some weird names (Darujistan and Whiskeyjack come to mind) and the way he sometimes borrow from hollywoodian endings to finish his own books. The only one who possibly comes closer in fantasy is George Martin, who excels in characters / intrigues and complexity but lacks a bit of the magical, epic scope of, say, Erikson and Jordan, though he seems to be moving towards it. 

Erikson has the advantage of providing an excellent sense of cultural diversity, as if he has created a world.

I do not think I would compare Jordan to either him or Martin.


Yeah but Sanderson for instance also does it very well and it didn't keep Way of Kings to be a complete disappointment. The same can be said for FFXII and the likes if tou are among those who hated it. And that's leaving expanded SW alone...

To actually be a good writer asf far as characters, plot etc. are concerned is harder and matters more than worldbuilding IMO.