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NotStan on 18 February 2011
Demonslayersoultaker said:
biggamejames79 said:

To answer simply, no the boost is not an illusion Malstrom, you are reading the numbers correctly, almost 200,000 more 360's sold in the latest week update on this site.  Kinect adventures is looking like it'll easily reach 10,000,000 lifetime sales this year. :)  Great marketing plus great product = great sales. :)

10 million by the end of this year is only 2 million this year which is a massive drop from the 2 months it was out last year and kinect isn't a great product

That would indicate at LEAST 10 million this year, so he low bailed it at a round number.

 

And that comes down to personal opinion, some people love motion controls, others hate it. The product hasn't even been out for more than 1 holiday season and people are already beginning to label it as a failure/sucess, kind of reminiscent of the Wii d00mz. Holiday season 2011 will tell whether it has a large impact or whether it's a mediocre one.



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Demonslayersoultaker on 18 February 2011
NotStan said:
Demonslayersoultaker said:
biggamejames79 said:

To answer simply, no the boost is not an illusion Malstrom, you are reading the numbers correctly, almost 200,000 more 360's sold in the latest week update on this site.  Kinect adventures is looking like it'll easily reach 10,000,000 lifetime sales this year. :)  Great marketing plus great product = great sales. :)

10 million by the end of this year is only 2 million this year which is a massive drop from the 2 months it was out last year and kinect isn't a great product

That would indicate at LEAST 10 million this year, so he low bailed it at a round number.

 

And that comes down to personal opinion, some people love motion controls, others hate it. The product hasn't even been out for more than 1 holiday season and people are already beginning to label it as a failure/sucess, kind of reminiscent of the Wii d00mz. Holiday season 2011 will tell whether it has a large impact or whether it's a mediocre one.

I'm not talking about the impact I'm talking about the actual product, it's differences from eye toy and ps eye are negliable in practice, marketing/hype and the false promises and false hope of potential are the reasons it's selling not the games



welshbloke on 18 February 2011

I am sorry having a wordy thing on some random blog does not make it worth posting. Also as it includes the normal fud about $500 million marketing I would suggest this is just another Fanboy trying to cover his tracks.

If selling lots of software and product is an illusion then I say bring on the illusions.



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welshbloke on 18 February 2011
Demonslayersoultaker said:

it's differences from eye toy and ps eye are negliable in practice, marketing/hype and the false promises 

Keep believing that and it still will never come true.



W.L.B.B. Member, Portsmouth Branch.

(Welsh(Folk) Living Beyond Borders)

Winner of the 2010 VGC Holiday sales prediction thread with an Average 1.6% accuracy rating. I am indeed awesome.

Kinect as seen by PS3 owners ...if you can pick at it   ...post it ... Did I mention the 360 was black and Shinny? Keeping Sigs obscure since 2007, Passed by the Sig police 5July10.
NotStan on 18 February 2011
Demonslayersoultaker said:
NotStan said:
Demonslayersoultaker said:
biggamejames79 said:

To answer simply, no the boost is not an illusion Malstrom, you are reading the numbers correctly, almost 200,000 more 360's sold in the latest week update on this site.  Kinect adventures is looking like it'll easily reach 10,000,000 lifetime sales this year. :)  Great marketing plus great product = great sales. :)

10 million by the end of this year is only 2 million this year which is a massive drop from the 2 months it was out last year and kinect isn't a great product

That would indicate at LEAST 10 million this year, so he low bailed it at a round number.

 

And that comes down to personal opinion, some people love motion controls, others hate it. The product hasn't even been out for more than 1 holiday season and people are already beginning to label it as a failure/sucess, kind of reminiscent of the Wii d00mz. Holiday season 2011 will tell whether it has a large impact or whether it's a mediocre one.

I'm not talking about the impact I'm talking about the actual product, it's differences from eye toy and ps eye are negliable in practice, marketing/hype and the false promises and false hope of potential are the reasons it's selling not the games

I think you've just came out from under the bridge with that sentence right there.



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mrstickball on 18 February 2011

Sean Malstron insane. I don't know what you call him - fanboy, random blogger, or what.

Did he bother taking a look at Microsoft profits from the Xbox division?

No, appearently not.

No matter how you spin Microsoft spending $500m on Kinect, the proof is in their balance sheets. Their balance sheets say they are making a killing, regardless of what was spent. That tells me two things:

1) Microsoft did the right thing with the $500m ad spend, which has been justified with massive profits in Q4 2010

2) Microsoft didn't spend $500m at once, and is instead allocating it to a slower burn.

Either way, Microsoft did the right thing. They are making more money than ever, in a market facing a horrible brick & motar downturn.

Its not just about the hardware sales. Its about the Kinect sales. You know, the overpriced piece of hardware they spent the supposed $500m on. Microsoft outsold demand by very favorable margins. They sold nearly 8 million devices in its first two months on market. That is very, very impressive. Apple didn't do that with the iPhone or iPad. Nintendo didn't do it with the Wii. Thats not to say its better than either, but as far as we can tell, they certainly are selling the device at a significant profit. At a $50 profit per device, which is likely low, Microsoft made $400 million USD in two months on the thing. I'd say thats very, VERY effective marketing of an arguably overpriced device.

Only a fool like Malstrom could look at one metric and say "Ha! Microsoft is failing!"



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Demonslayersoultaker on 18 February 2011
NotStan said:
Demonslayersoultaker said:
NotStan said:
Demonslayersoultaker said:
biggamejames79 said:

To answer simply, no the boost is not an illusion Malstrom, you are reading the numbers correctly, almost 200,000 more 360's sold in the latest week update on this site.  Kinect adventures is looking like it'll easily reach 10,000,000 lifetime sales this year. :)  Great marketing plus great product = great sales. :)

10 million by the end of this year is only 2 million this year which is a massive drop from the 2 months it was out last year and kinect isn't a great product

That would indicate at LEAST 10 million this year, so he low bailed it at a round number.

 

And that comes down to personal opinion, some people love motion controls, others hate it. The product hasn't even been out for more than 1 holiday season and people are already beginning to label it as a failure/sucess, kind of reminiscent of the Wii d00mz. Holiday season 2011 will tell whether it has a large impact or whether it's a mediocre one.

I'm not talking about the impact I'm talking about the actual product, it's differences from eye toy and ps eye are negliable in practice, marketing/hype and the false promises and false hope of potential are the reasons it's selling not the games

I think you've just came out from under the bridge with that sentence right there.

The diferences in kinect games and ps eye games aren't that different other then the budget put into them, I'm guessing you like everyone else is just ignorant to what the ps eye is capable of and how little an improvement kinect is 



bannedagain on 18 February 2011
antcar18 said:

he's right the 360s sales havent taken off and there falling fast ecept for the US but this site keeps overtracking it. Kinect gave it a boost for sure  but nothing to brag about.

I just took this pic at wal-mart and I have not seen any xbox 360 in all week.



bannedagain on 18 February 2011
Demonslayersoultaker said:
NotStan said:
Demonslayersoultaker said:
NotStan said:
Demonslayersoultaker said:
biggamejames79 said:

To answer simply, no the boost is not an illusion Malstrom, you are reading the numbers correctly, almost 200,000 more 360's sold in the latest week update on this site.  Kinect adventures is looking like it'll easily reach 10,000,000 lifetime sales this year. :)  Great marketing plus great product = great sales. :)

10 million by the end of this year is only 2 million this year which is a massive drop from the 2 months it was out last year and kinect isn't a great product

That would indicate at LEAST 10 million this year, so he low bailed it at a round number.

 

And that comes down to personal opinion, some people love motion controls, others hate it. The product hasn't even been out for more than 1 holiday season and people are already beginning to label it as a failure/sucess, kind of reminiscent of the Wii d00mz. Holiday season 2011 will tell whether it has a large impact or whether it's a mediocre one.

I'm not talking about the impact I'm talking about the actual product, it's differences from eye toy and ps eye are negliable in practice, marketing/hype and the false promises and false hope of potential are the reasons it's selling not the games

I think you've just came out from under the bridge with that sentence right there.

The diferences in kinect games and ps eye games aren't that different other then the budget put into them, I'm guessing you like everyone else is just ignorant to what the ps eye is capable of and how little an improvement kinect is 


The ps eye can't do the same things kinect can. PERIOD. You my friend are ingnorant and I bet you never even tried it. I bet you read all the baised articles and run with it.  You know what helps. SOME PROOF OF YOUR CLAIMS.



Demonslayersoultaker on 18 February 2011
bannedagain said:
Demonslayersoultaker said:
NotStan said:
Demonslayersoultaker said:
NotStan said:
Demonslayersoultaker said:
biggamejames79 said:

To answer simply, no the boost is not an illusion Malstrom, you are reading the numbers correctly, almost 200,000 more 360's sold in the latest week update on this site.  Kinect adventures is looking like it'll easily reach 10,000,000 lifetime sales this year. :)  Great marketing plus great product = great sales. :)

10 million by the end of this year is only 2 million this year which is a massive drop from the 2 months it was out last year and kinect isn't a great product

That would indicate at LEAST 10 million this year, so he low bailed it at a round number.

 

And that comes down to personal opinion, some people love motion controls, others hate it. The product hasn't even been out for more than 1 holiday season and people are already beginning to label it as a failure/sucess, kind of reminiscent of the Wii d00mz. Holiday season 2011 will tell whether it has a large impact or whether it's a mediocre one.

I'm not talking about the impact I'm talking about the actual product, it's differences from eye toy and ps eye are negliable in practice, marketing/hype and the false promises and false hope of potential are the reasons it's selling not the games

I think you've just came out from under the bridge with that sentence right there.

The diferences in kinect games and ps eye games aren't that different other then the budget put into them, I'm guessing you like everyone else is just ignorant to what the ps eye is capable of and how little an improvement kinect is 


The ps eye can't do the  absolutely everything kinect can. PERIOD. You my friend are ingnorant and I bet you never even tried it. I bet you read all the baised articles and run with it.  You know what helps. SOME PROOF OF YOUR CLAIMS.

I fixed your statement, there are some things kinect can do that ps eye can't that is obviously true, it's just not much of a difference for the purpose gaming