And if someone really bored and pissed off from getting their console banned.

He could technically spoof a crap load of ID's and systematically get them all banned.

And when you found out your legit PS3 got banned for no reason but the burden of proof is upon you. You're &^%$#$.

While Sony and the hacking community fight each other, some of the commoners will inadverly get some stray shots.

Cool. Just wanted to be clear. You suck then.

Were there such problems with Live? I think jtagged xbox360 also lets you change console ID.

And the app for the ps3 seems to exist, it is pretty easy to find on google. But according to its site 1) you need a legitimate ID, not just any number will do, and 2) there are about 3.4*10^38 possible combinations.

So the article was right about the difficultioes in obtaining it, unless the algorithm is found and a ID generator made. If that happes, then unbanning seems the first outcome, and depending on the number of possible IDs to be generated, it might well hit someone's perfectly OFW console more or less often.

At such a point however, Sony should know about what's going on and change the banning mechanism.

All this trouble because Sony was so stupid to beging with and removed a feature they implemented themselves... apparently without really thinking to hard about it.

Goes to show, when your making a product, always think about what your putting on it.

Still, seems unlikely you could ban someone else.  You MAYBE could use the Key to change your PS3 ID and therefore defeat the ban.... and get other peoples PS3's banned that way, but that's about all I could see be possible.

Unless Sony's online was designed by a bunch of monkeys.

Who would have thought, a keygen that only available to windows  apps now going to be appearing on PS3.

I supposed, it's the price that consoles have to pay for getting closer to being a computer.

I don't know, if there is a way to change IDs for XBOX.. but yes, can be.

The point is, there is a real chance to make it, and that`s what count. Is it really hard, to make a spam like - we need to ensure, that your console will not be banned, please insert your ID of your console ?

Sony will change the banning mechanism.. how ? ID is the only code that really differed from other consoles...everything else seems like the same.. .. maybe, they will be matching IDs  with some other things like - was it slim, Fat ? What account was logged in before and now ? Maybe they will break your privacy and spoof something - don't know what.. so SONY is going against rules ?

SONY could make, what they want, but in the end.... it will only makes angry legal customers.. not the pirates.. and this is not good.. Don't know, how M$ is banning the consoles, but it seems, it really pays off - i think, they both need to sit down and talk about the piracy - mechanism.. all in all - it goes also about their money..  and we as a players need to have a really great enjoyments of their great games.. We really want to enjoy what we have paid for.. 

posting so i could read the good stuff later.

the problem is not now and what sony does or doesn't do, the problem is that they attacked hackers instead of pirates... and that is where they didn't realize the outcome just couldn't benefit them....

giant ennemy crabs from accurate historical battles...they're also good programers ^^

Well, after some googling what I gathered is that ID change is possible on jtagged xbox360 and old xbox, but an ID generator was never made so it never became a real problem. So it should make an appearance for the PS3 before everyone starts going into panic mode.

As for banning, frankly I don't get MS's ban waves, that is why they do it so rarely. That's for the flashed DVD drives though, jtag gets consoles banned within 30min to couple of hours (and it's a lot more like the ps3 hacks in nature). I really don't see the incentive to unban yourself, even if trivially doable (which right now it isn't), if you're going to get banned so quickly again. Ideally I think Sony should ban accounts as well as machines. Unlike the ID, accounts are on Sony's side, so there won't be a way around that, and while multiplayer is free on the PSN, having a new account every couple of hours would probably make the PSN a lot less worth fussing over. Plus it would make people who invested a lot in their accounts already (money, trophies, being on people's friends list to do multiplayer with) think very well before considering a hack.

Don't know how legally doable it would be though, regarding the games one actually bought and blocking access to them.

The whole is probably going to pan out into the state xbox360 is in now, cat and mouse on the PSN and a second machine for those really set into pirating whatever is single player.