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irstupid said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

-_- can't believe people use one platforms success in something to measure the others equavalent yet different feature as a failure.

I don't care how much units nintendogs sell....I will buy Crisis Core over that any day. If you don't think so, then maybe it's not for you

and there ARE many simple handheld games for psp as well. You don't see them selling gazillions either, but the quality tops most crap that sells better

so you've played nintendogs?  you played all these "CRAP" games that you mention?  and these gazillion simple psp games are all better?

oh wait that right, your a gamer.  gamers are selfish, imature kids who think that anything not catered to them should be burned.  how dare we make games that a 10 year old girl might enjoy.  toss the cute puppy, she needs to just grow the fuck up and learn to handle an ak-47 and pwn someones ass.


ugh no? if you follow that logic aren't you the immature one here? you downplay games on the psp saying it's console games on the go and it's wrong bla bla bla and how nintendogs etc are great portable games etc....it's a matter of opinion..I find nintendogs crappy as hell! Yes i played it and returned it right after cuz my gf for whome I got it didn't like it either..picross 3d was picked up in return and that was a much better game. I have played many highest selling games on almost all consoles, do I think every FPS should follow COD cuz it sells so so much better? Hell No!

and no there are more than enough casual friendly (can be enjoyed by anyone as well) games on the psp as well. I don't get why people bitch about lack of so called portable games on the psp. There are many available. They sell even worse!

And name calling shows who is the immature brat here. I never said, unlike some tend to do when it comes to psp games, that Nintendogs like games should be stopped, cuz obviously there is a market for that type of game. But if the psp focused on games like that I wouldn't like the psp on the same level as I do now.

I don't care if a million ppl come here screaming console IP's don't work on the psp or sales mean gamers don't like it. Cuz unlike I don't think my own opinion should be everyones opinion. So no she doesn't need to grow the fuck up and play FPS. She can play Locoroco, Patapon or exit or something like that and let those who like Chains of Olympus to play that.



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Grimes said:
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Nintendogs is an amazing game for the audience it's catering to. That's why the DS is a success, because it had games that would sell systems, such as Nintendogs or Brain Training. These games sell in the tens of millions. AND they sell systems in the tens of millions.

And those types of games sell just as well on the Wii, the console. 

The Wii and DS have their own best sellers. The Wii has its own unique games that are best sellers. Both the Wii and DS have established their own franchises while also offering Nintendo favorites.

And those types of games sell just as well on the Wii, the console. 

What types of games? You mean like Pokemon or Animal Crossing or Brain Training? Because none of these games had big success on the Wii because they were never designed for the Wii.

The DS has its own games which sell best on the DS because they were designed for the DS and portable gaming.

There tons of games designed for both DS and Wii that sell nothing, it's about the market, the types of gmaes you release. The Conduit was designed for the Wii, Scribblenut was designed for the DS, but did it sell tens of million. 

The Wii sells a type of games, The DS too. The PSP only caught on in japan with tons of games made for it, but it was its control that messed it up for me. I feel NGP is fixing that. 



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Grimes said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

-_- can't believe people use one platforms success in something to measure the others equavalent yet different feature as a failure.

I don't care how much units nintendogs sell....I will buy Crisis Core over that any day. If you don't think so, then maybe it's not for you

and there ARE many simple handheld games for psp as well. You don't see them selling gazillions either, but the quality tops most crap that sells better


That's not really what the discussion is about. What we personally like or dislike is a different discussion.

don't remember quoting or replying to your discussion. I find it tiresome to say just because it doesn't sell the same as some games on other platforms, doesn't mean it didn't work, over and over again. PSP has some great casual games too. They just don't sell as well as the core games.



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irstupid said:
psrock said:
irstupid said:

just a quick thinking process for you

Imagine you are asked to play a game.  Lets take Pinball, and Uncharted.  Both state of the art, best graphics, controls, AI, physics, sound, ect you name it.  

Which system would you want to play either on?  the NGP or the PS3?   identical games, no difference in the NGP or PS3 versions.  

I would choose to play uncharted on the PS3 and Pinball on the NGP.  

 

Imagine that for any other game you can think of.  If you can't decide, then its one that is a perfect game for both, such as new super mario bros.  if your leaning towards one way over the other then thats teh type of game it is meant to be.  And thus why the reason I believe PSP failed software wise.  Too many games where you would think "i want that on my ps3"

Again the reason we wanted to play PSP games on the PS3 is because it plays better on the PS3, that won't be the issue anymore. Why is that so hard to understand, the PSP has sucky control compared to the PS3. 

quick answer my question

If you were given the choice would you rather play Uncharted 3 on your ps3, or on your NGP?

Right now, I would buy both. It's not the same game, it's made for the NGP. BTW, the NGP offers more control option than the PS3 now. 



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psrock said:
Grimes said:
psrock said:
Grimes said:
psrock said:
Grimes said:


Nintendogs is an amazing game for the audience it's catering to. That's why the DS is a success, because it had games that would sell systems, such as Nintendogs or Brain Training. These games sell in the tens of millions. AND they sell systems in the tens of millions.

And those types of games sell just as well on the Wii, the console. 

The Wii and DS have their own best sellers. The Wii has its own unique games that are best sellers. Both the Wii and DS have established their own franchises while also offering Nintendo favorites.

And those types of games sell just as well on the Wii, the console. 

What types of games? You mean like Pokemon or Animal Crossing or Brain Training? Because none of these games had big success on the Wii because they were never designed for the Wii.

The DS has its own games which sell best on the DS because they were designed for the DS and portable gaming.

There tons of games designed for both DS and Wii that sell nothing, it's about the market, the types of gmaes you release. The Conduit was designed for the Wii, Scribblenut was designed for the DS, but did it sell tens of million. 

The Wii sells a type of games, The DS too. The PSP only caught on in japan with tons of games made for it, but it was its control that messed it up for me. I feel NGP is fixing that. 


I would add piracy to the problems. The controls, piracy and horrible marketing on Sony's part cut down the potential of the psp. As for NGP, so far so good. I like how a next gen handheld actually adds something to gameplay mechanics.



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M.U.G.E.N said:
irstupid said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

-_- can't believe people use one platforms success in something to measure the others equavalent yet different feature as a failure.

I don't care how much units nintendogs sell....I will buy Crisis Core over that any day. If you don't think so, then maybe it's not for you

and there ARE many simple handheld games for psp as well. You don't see them selling gazillions either, but the quality tops most crap that sells better

so you've played nintendogs?  you played all these "CRAP" games that you mention?  and these gazillion simple psp games are all better?

oh wait that right, your a gamer.  gamers are selfish, imature kids who think that anything not catered to them should be burned.  how dare we make games that a 10 year old girl might enjoy.  toss the cute puppy, she needs to just grow the fuck up and learn to handle an ak-47 and pwn someones ass.


ugh no? if you follow that logic aren't you the immature one here? you downplay games on the psp saying it's console games on the go and it's wrong bla bla bla and how nintendogs etc are great portable games etc....it's a matter of opinion..I find nintendogs crappy as hell! Yes i played it and returned it right after cuz my gf for whome I got it didn't like it either..picross 3d was picked up in return and that was a much better game. I have played many highest selling games on almost all consoles, do I think every FPS should follow COD cuz it sells so so much better? Hell No!

and no there are more than enough casual friendly (can be enjoyed by anyone as well) games on the psp as well. I don't get why people bitch about lack of so called portable games on the psp. There are many available. They sell even worse!

And name calling shows who is the immature brat here. I never said, unlike some tend to do when it comes to psp games, that Nintendogs like games should be stopped, cuz obviously there is a market for that type of game. But if the psp focused on games like that I wouldn't like the psp on the same level as I do now.

I don't care if a million ppl come here screaming console IP's don't work on the psp or sales mean gamers don't like it. Cuz unlike I don't think my own opinion should be everyones opinion. So no she doesn't need to grow the fuck up and play FPS. She can play Locoroco, Patapon or exit or something like that and let those who like Chains of Olympus to play that.

no its not the same.  i like cod, uncharted, ect games.  I just did not like them on a handheld.  

Nintendogs is not made for us.  Doesn't matter if you played it or not.  If I go to the Opera and say it sucks, that doesn't mean it sucks.  The opera is not for me, jus tlike nintendogs is not for us.  

I didn't say sony has to make nintendog games either.  there are plenty of good games on handhelds psp/ds alike that are "hardcore" yet not basically copies of console games.  

BESIDES, this isn't me arguing that they a re shitty games.  This is a SALES website, and that is what i'm arguing.  I asked PSROCk the same question and i'll ask you.  I'll also ask you follow up questions.  Go in order and answer them

 

  • Would you rather play Uncharted 3 on PS3 or NGP?
  • if PS3, then why would you buy a NGP?
  • if NGP, then why would you buy a PS3?
  • if both, that means your going to spend $110 to have said game on both?
  • That is my whole point.  The NGP if it only has games like this is making the PS3 its biggest competitor.  Sony is fighting ITSELF?  That is not a good business strategy.  


    psrock said:
    irstupid said:
    psrock said:
    irstupid said:

    just a quick thinking process for you

    Imagine you are asked to play a game.  Lets take Pinball, and Uncharted.  Both state of the art, best graphics, controls, AI, physics, sound, ect you name it.  

    Which system would you want to play either on?  the NGP or the PS3?   identical games, no difference in the NGP or PS3 versions.  

    I would choose to play uncharted on the PS3 and Pinball on the NGP.  

     

    Imagine that for any other game you can think of.  If you can't decide, then its one that is a perfect game for both, such as new super mario bros.  if your leaning towards one way over the other then thats teh type of game it is meant to be.  And thus why the reason I believe PSP failed software wise.  Too many games where you would think "i want that on my ps3"

    Again the reason we wanted to play PSP games on the PS3 is because it plays better on the PS3, that won't be the issue anymore. Why is that so hard to understand, the PSP has sucky control compared to the PS3. 

    quick answer my question

    If you were given the choice would you rather play Uncharted 3 on your ps3, or on your NGP?

    Right now, I would buy both. 

    so your going to spend $110 (60/50) to be able to play uncharted 3?  



    psrock said:

    There tons of games designed for both DS and Wii that sell nothing, it's about the market, the types of gmaes you release. The Conduit was designed for the Wii, Scribblenut was designed for the DS, but did it sell tens of million. 

    The Wii sells a type of games, The DS too. The PSP only caught on in japan with tons of games made for it, but it was its control that messed it up for me. I feel NGP is fixing that. 

    Well, that may be what you want. I'm not convinced that was the problem for the general buying public.



    Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

    irstupid said:
    psrock said:
    irstupid said:
    psrock said:
    irstupid said:

    just a quick thinking process for you

    Imagine you are asked to play a game.  Lets take Pinball, and Uncharted.  Both state of the art, best graphics, controls, AI, physics, sound, ect you name it.  

    Which system would you want to play either on?  the NGP or the PS3?   identical games, no difference in the NGP or PS3 versions.  

    I would choose to play uncharted on the PS3 and Pinball on the NGP.  

     

    Imagine that for any other game you can think of.  If you can't decide, then its one that is a perfect game for both, such as new super mario bros.  if your leaning towards one way over the other then thats teh type of game it is meant to be.  And thus why the reason I believe PSP failed software wise.  Too many games where you would think "i want that on my ps3"

    Again the reason we wanted to play PSP games on the PS3 is because it plays better on the PS3, that won't be the issue anymore. Why is that so hard to understand, the PSP has sucky control compared to the PS3. 

    quick answer my question

    If you were given the choice would you rather play Uncharted 3 on your ps3, or on your NGP?

    Right now, I would buy both. 

    so your going to spend $110 (60/50) to be able to play uncharted 3?  


    You did, you have two Zelda : one DS and one Wii. 



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    11/20/09 04:25 makingmusic476 Warning Other (Your avatar is borderline NSFW. Please keep it for as long as possible.)
    psrock said:
    irstupid said:
    psrock said:
    irstupid said:
    psrock said:
    irstupid said:

    just a quick thinking process for you

    Imagine you are asked to play a game.  Lets take Pinball, and Uncharted.  Both state of the art, best graphics, controls, AI, physics, sound, ect you name it.  

    Which system would you want to play either on?  the NGP or the PS3?   identical games, no difference in the NGP or PS3 versions.  

    I would choose to play uncharted on the PS3 and Pinball on the NGP.  

     

    Imagine that for any other game you can think of.  If you can't decide, then its one that is a perfect game for both, such as new super mario bros.  if your leaning towards one way over the other then thats teh type of game it is meant to be.  And thus why the reason I believe PSP failed software wise.  Too many games where you would think "i want that on my ps3"

    Again the reason we wanted to play PSP games on the PS3 is because it plays better on the PS3, that won't be the issue anymore. Why is that so hard to understand, the PSP has sucky control compared to the PS3. 

    quick answer my question

    If you were given the choice would you rather play Uncharted 3 on your ps3, or on your NGP?

    Right now, I would buy both. 

    so your going to spend $110 (60/50) to be able to play uncharted 3?  


    You did, you have two Zelda : one DS and one Wii. 

    huh?  i own spirit track, phantom hourglass and twilight princess

    none are the same game.

    fyi my games list is way out of date