actaully it isn't a diversion i forgut what i wanted ot say about that topic. besides during the revolution mubarak resisted US pressure, if he didn't he would have made omar solieman president for the transitional period instead of the army. You might not like it but generally the egyptain army was ordered by mubarak regime to opress protesters but it refused. Also police used live ammunition so you saying that the usa stopped that, please enlighten me how the USA stopped the police from being brutal when the police was very brutal arresting alot tortuing using live munition tear gas is that what the USA stopped the police doing 

It's true.  It'd make a lot more sense if the Native Americans went all terrorrist on the USA.   Hell, there aren't even any Native American countries to move to, in a sad way America is the best they've got.  The fact there isn't native american terrorist groups is shocking.  (Or if there are, i haven't heard of them.)

Now if I was a Palestinian.  I'd try and immigrate to any country that would have me.  It's not like the land they're fighting for is worth much anyway... pointless.  They should have the common sense to sign whatever deal they can, build up their strength and then argue they deserve more and signed under coeercement.  Instead they let their leaders force them to suffer and use them for martyrs in hopes that in decades in the future they'll get 1-2% more land.

If they would of went any stronger, they would of faced heavy problems from the US.  As for the military refusing... I mean, your from Egypt. 

You should know better then anybody that the military is like... 500,000 people strong.  The various paramilitary, police and intellegence agencies greatly outnumber it.

He didn't need the military.

This does illustrate though why everybody from conservatives to liberals were upset with how reserved Obama was early, even when he had behind the scenes been pushing for him to step down shortly after the protests started.

Also... I would feel a LOT better about this transfer if the Egyptian military weren't trying to remove the protestors from Tahir square.

There should be no problem in letting them stay their if they plan to honor their word.

Thats the way I see it. The Jews did that for ~2000 years. Worked out pretty darn well for them. If I were the Palestiniean government, I would make peace with Israel, never attack them, work with all other countries in the region, and wait for Israel to slip up. If they slip up, then its proven they are the instigators. If not, then I enjoy peace and prosperity.

To me, what the Palestinieans are doing would be like Mexico deciding to attack America for its lost territories in former wars. Peace is a much more attractive option, IMO.

Unfortunately, despite the rationality of peace - The Palestinieans and the Jews will find excuse to attack each other (All people, regardless of decent contain hardliners). Heck, even if religion or history weren't plausible enough, someone will make up another.

As to Eygpt's change of government, it's hopeful there won't be another un-democratic state, but it's a plausible and real fear there won't. Granted, I think that the real wish of any western government will be that no one will remember who helped keep Mubarak there.

Granted, it's rather amusing the focus of the media is on Eygpt despite everything tacking place in the rest of the middle east. Large amounts of the region are facing an uprise, hopefully a successful one.

You're a jew?

As Kaz said it was stolen. But even if it wasn't did you see the video's of Egyptian protestors attacking pretty much anyone foreign? CTV, CBC, Fox, CNN all were reporting that their journalists were being attacked by Egyptian protestors. A group of Canadian journalists were pulled from their cars and the translator said the egyptians planned on killing them, luckily the army intervened and rescued them.

Canada, the US and other countries only supported the Egyptian Government all these years because they were the Government. You say Egyptian's don't like the US playing around with your countries affairs, as such what did you expect them to do? Come into Egypt topple the Government and insert democracy? Wouldn't that have been meddaling in your affairs? Or should the US have boycott your Government and sanctioned the shit out of it?

The US Canada and other governments respected Egypts soveirnty and did not meddle in your countries affairs anymore then any other country. Sure they signed peace agreements and trade but they always respected your countries independance.

Egyptians would be just as mad if America meddled and intervened militarily to instal democracy. The US and Canada helped get Mubarak to step down. They have done everything they could for the egyptian people.

P.S- which University in Canada you going too?

The reason why the focus on Egypt is so intense is because of how important Egypt is as a nation. It's traditionally the centre of the Arab world. The fall of Mubarak will have other Arab dictators shaking in their boots, it's a very ill omen for them.

actually mubaraks fucked the US. They ordered him ot step down and give power to sulieman on thursday, he instead gave it to the army on thursday but his son edited the clip so that he didn't resign and give power to sulieman. that was on thursday, the next day sulieman read the speach which gave power to the army and both army generals in control, al musheer tantawy and al fariq anan don't like israel as they have fought against them in the 1973 war. 

Waw what accusation you give us, these were the secret police who were attacking reporters, let me ask you a question if it was us the people attacking news reporters then why wasn't the american embassy destroyed or israeli embassy for this matter, why wheren't protesters burning israeli and american flags, why weren't we holding anti american signs? give me a reason for why we didn't do that and would attack news reporters.

im applied for U of T for biological science along with western ontario, algoma for computer science and waterloo for mechanical.