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Wonk struggled quite a bit when we decided to operate him, we had to hold him down on the table and constantly tried to get away. This made things quite messy and theRepublic who was feeling uneasy went to the bathroom to splash some water on his face.

Meanwhile, I decided to go through Wonk's belongings, the guy not only had a scalpel with him but lot's of other disturbing tools. Seems he also kept syringes, various drugs, bandages...suddenly I had a sinking feeling I turned around and yelled: GUYS STOP! but my shout was covered the sound of theRepublic stumbling back into the room, knocking over everything in his path, his face was purple, he muttered "Water...poisonned... is there...doctor... here?"

That's when with his last ounce of energy Wonk lifted his arms in the air and said "Me", a split second later his arm fell back and he was dead.... so was theRepublic.

DAY TWO BEGIN



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FoS prof

He refuses to go along with the plan, then suddenly about-faces to hammer wonk.  Why?  I suspect it's because he finished reading the posts and realized he could hammer Wonk (who was a power role), and went with the excuse that he hadn't read all the posts yet. 

But why would he suddenly do a 180 like that unless he read more of the thread and changed his mind?  If he did, why wouldn't he read ALL of it?  And finally, he "realized his mistake" a mere minute later.  That's awfully fast catching up. 



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Final-Fan said:

FoS prof

He refuses to go along with the plan, then suddenly about-faces to hammer wonk.  Why?  I suspect it's because he finished reading the posts and realized he could hammer Wonk (who was a power role), and went with the excuse that he hadn't read all the posts yet. 

But why would he suddenly do a 180 like that unless he read more of the thread and changed his mind?  If he did, why wouldn't he read ALL of it?  And finally, he "realized his mistake" a mere minute later.  That's awfully fast catching up. 

says the guy who was going along with the plan.

Seriously man, if you're going to try and look for someone to blame, look no further than the hands in front of you, or look at wonk. That was not how you play a power role.

I was tired and annoyed, I wanted the day to end, simple as that. Then, upon reading the scant few posts and sentences "AWFULLY FAST", I thought it was a fake claim anyway.

But whatever, keep your FoS on me, it's not like this doesn't happen every single game with you FoSing me.



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Finally, was that a record long night too?

Ugh, I just got an awful feeling in my stomach. Reading the end of yesterday, I was more certain Wonk was scum near the end than when I voted him. Even the protown claim read to me like a desperate attempt to keep himself alive for long enough to think up a fakeclaim in hopes of outting someone that actually had a power role. I can't believe he was the doctor, though I'm not sure if he'd have made a save anyway.(Hopefully a dead people thread has/will be started and he can share what he'd have done/will do if he were alive. I think it'd be interesting)

I'm going to look back over Republic's posts to see if anything stands out. Obviously he had the vote on ABC, he had an FoS on Heph, and I know he said he was suspicious of Stefl.(to the point that if he had a second vote it'd have been on Stefl) First I want to go over some things from yesterday though.

@noname: As Wonk pointed out, at the time of your vote he actually had only 2 votes while Heph had 3. Can you explain that, and would you have pushed the same plan on Heph if not for the mistake? I find it quite scummy how you went about making the lynch happen as it did, but I can't believe you would be that obvious about it if you are scum either.

@Wonk: I know you can't respond, but I wish I could've cleared up the issue about the dismissal of points by Heph. I really don't understand what you were referring to. We'll have to go over this after(and if) I die or simply after the game if you want.
Also, I had the chance to look back at your interaction with Heph and I didn't really have the sense he dismissed them either. He called them illogical and irrelevant, but I also think he addressed them. Then again I had the mindset that you were an alien while I read it, so I'm going to take another look now that you're a confirmed townie.
Finally, to piggyback off of Heph's advice post:
Playing slighty differently is going to get picked up on by everyone. If townies don't notice it and vote to lynch you then scum will think it's a sign of a role and will kill you for it. You may be trapped into the gung-ho protown behavior.

@prof: Your behavior around the hammer vote was truly bizarre. I can't believe you'd tell me not to be rash with my vote and then act in exactly that manner with your vote.
HoS: theprof00
Also, I'm demoting the HoS on trash to a FoS.

@radish: You're certainly demonstrating that you haven't paid much attention to Wonk. His post dedicated to you should've already cleared up some of the confusion you seem to still have. Also how does one second a idea, when that idea is being stated for the third(at least, by votes if not more just in saying) time? No need to answer to any of this, just pointing things out.

Just a note: ABC, prof, and Heph all said they'd be likely to die night one, but they all lived. Yay, or is it? No I don't really think that means anything.

Okay, going to read Republic's posts now.



Ok, linkz, FF: please listen up.

I was at the point when I felt the day just needed to end.

I didn't like noname's plan because I lean scum with him.

I said "I'm not going along with your plan"

45 MINUTES LATER

not one post in response, so I reread it again and gave up. He was absolutely right about "move the game along".

So, yes, while it may have appeared to be rash. I think we all wanted an end to the day. I didn't completely trust Wonk, and it does help me look at his interactions differently. Flips help the town. Even if they're townies.

It also doesn't escape me that you were on the lynch and looking at me as well. What a shock.

 

Now, it seems to me that therepublic was a pretty random choice for a nightkill. It looks to me that they chose someone who was "far away from the action". I would guess that they did this so as to not indict anyone being suspected by any of us. Linkz, you yourself should have been one of the people to die ( if you really are town ). The amount of contribution you made is beyond helpful. Your continued existence is a problem for your innocence as well, fyi.



Also, I'm demoting the HoS on trash to a FoS.

and why is this, exactly?



45 MINUTES LATER!? REALLY? What did you expect to happen in 45 minutes when apparently you, Wonk, and others that voted for Wonk already were the only ones online?

I didn't even have an issue with you changing your mind on the plan, if that's really what happened. My issue is that you didn't read everything before your vote. If you'd have quoted the "fakeclaim" and hammered then, I'd find it to be more like you. If you had read that and then noticed he only had one vote, hence a "cop tell" as you put it, and said something along the lines of "Yep, absolutely no way I'll go along with it now" then I'd find it to be more like you. Facts are you didn't and that's bizarre in my eyes.

If I understand you correctly, you think Republic was chosen because he was off with his suspicions?

What do you mean by "Linkz, you yourself should have been one of the people to die"? There was only a single night kill. It seems a statement like this is very premature. I cannot fathom why I'm still alive, but I couldn't last round either. As for me being "beyond helpful," I would have to question that as well.  As I see it, of the two votes with any real reasoning behind them, I made a stronger case against what turned out to be the doctor than Heph did.

As for the change to an FoS. As I said with Wonk, I don't have three hands and you and Heph are at the top of my scumspect list at the moment. Real reason being I did reread Heph and trash's posts without your interaction, and while I'm still highly suspicious of Heph, I don't put her as close. I think if he were to flip scum then she'd go back, but I wouldn't be willing to lynch her first as an indicator to his alignment.


Also, finished my look back at Republic. He also thought prof had a reaction that was "too strong" to ABC's miscommunication of why he wanted to "wait for prof." If he were still here, I think he'd want to revisit ABC. He wasn't comfortable with FF's vote on ABC, though he probably did miss FF's independent suspicion. Other than the suspicions I already mentioned in my last post, that's all that stands out to me.



Linkzmax said:

 

1)I didn't even have an issue with you changing your mind on the plan, if that's really what happened. My issue is that you didn't read everything before your vote. If you'd have quoted the "fakeclaim" and hammered then, I'd find it to be more like you. If you had read that and then noticed he only had one vote, hence a "cop tell" as you put it, and said something along the lines of "Yep, absolutely no way I'll go along with it now" then I'd find it to be more like you. Facts are you didn't and that's bizarre in my eyes.

2) If I understand you correctly, you think Republic was chosen because he was off with his suspicions?

3)What do you mean by "Linkz, you yourself should have been one of the people to die"? There was only a single night kill. It seems a statement like this is very premature. I cannot fathom why I'm still alive, but I couldn't last round either. As for me being "beyond helpful," I would have to question that as well.  As I see it, of the two votes with any real reasoning behind them, I made a stronger case against what turned out to be the doctor than Heph did.

4) As for the change to an FoS. As I said with Wonk, I don't have three hands and you and Heph are at the top of my scumspect list at the moment. Real reason being I did reread Heph and trash's posts without your interaction, and while I'm still highly suspicious of Heph, I don't put her as close. I think if he were to flip scum then she'd go back, but I wouldn't be willing to lynch her first as an indicator to his alignment.


5) Also, finished my look back at Republic. He also thought prof had a reaction that was "too strong" to ABC's miscommunication of why he wanted to "wait for prof." If he were still here, I think he'd want to revisit ABC. He wasn't comfortable with FF's vote on ABC, though he probably did miss FF's independent suspicion. Other than the suspicions I already mentioned in my last post, that's all that stands out to me.

1) You're right, I didn't read it. I admitted to that. I still didn't believe him after that anyway, so. It's time to move on.

2) That is slightly innaccurate. I believe he was chosen because he wasn't in the fore. Killing fore members has connotations. Killing background members does not, EXCEPT for the idea that they don't want to provoke connotations. The other possibility is that they thought he was a power role, or possibly another reason.

3) one, as in "the one chosen from among the group of people". Last round, like I predicted on day 2, they left you alive in the hopes you would get lynched ala Heph-style mafia. This time it's different. Different strategy. Leave ALL the high-profile... perhaps to blend in? Maybe it's several high-profilers? I think we should think about this. A real big problem I'm having with your logic right now is, "republic said we should revisit X, so let's do that", without a single question as to why we're doing that. I agree that we should look at his posts, but I am not so confident to think that Republic is on the right path.

4) I was just curious why she was even mentioned in my paragraph. But I see it's because you gave me an HoS and had to take one away from someone else. Your post is easily misinterpreted as taking suspicion off of Trashleg while discreditting me.

5) Like I said, I don't think republic should be taken at face value so easily. Revisit ABC? Aren't we past this yet? We are you focusing on his post about me and ABC when republic shared a lot of the same suspicions that I did. You're cherry picking, linkz.