I'm going to do a reread now and disregard prof's posts. I fear I may be trusting him too much and I don't want that to influence my vote.
Hephaestos said:
you seem to do a lot of the "ah ok then i'll do it too" so FoS FF |
I ... I'm not sure what to say here. If you're claiming I do too much "follow the leader", I think I can point to enough independent thoughts/actions to counter that.
As for the "confession", noname and prof were saying we can't count on scum to be illiterate, i.e. we shouldn't bet the farm on them not noticing ABC's whatever-it-was. Well, I'm not scum, but I didn't notice it*, so "apparently I'm illiterate". (So actually what noname said is the OPPOSITE of what you claim he said!)
*Unless is was the "they will get 2 good roles in one night", which I interpreted as "2 pro-town players".
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Cancel that, going to put out a fire. Later ya'll :)
i feel like there's nothing else i can really say about all this. there's a lot of personal back-and-forth going on, and it gets tiresome.
Hephaestos said:
this is missing a ? after lazy |
WHAT? How could a question mark possibly belong there? You are doing something wrong. Please figure out what and tell us. It doesn't matter TOO much, as your conclusion is still incredibly wrong, but I am curious.
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| trashleg said: i feel like there's nothing else i can really say about all this. there's a lot of personal back-and-forth going on, and it gets tiresome. |
Don't hesitate to insert yourself into one of them if you have something to say. it's back-and-forth about the thread, so you should have SOMETHING to say. Start your own conversation if you have to.
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| Linkzmax said: I was falling asleep thinking I'd be voting for you today, but when I woke up my mind was thinking I should revote Heph. Unfortunately, if I figured something out in a dream, then I didn't keep the logic. I won't be voting just due to a feeling, but I will look at Heph once again in addition to reexamining you. 1) Noted. I still feel like it was artificial though. I just don't think a townie investigating someone suspicious would get an answer which offers new information and not inquire about it or at least check to see that it's valid. 2) My math was slightly off and I haven't considered cases with additional no lynches. If the scumteam is comprised of 3 members, then overall the odds are still in favor of a no lynch. However, just considering the worst case scenario the random lynch is better for town and better still since I consider the odds to be 3/10 instead of 3/11. If it's only 2 members, then odds are much more in favor of a doc save then a random lynch. On the other hand, if there's only 2 of them then I doubt there would be a doctor anyway. I only bring this all up because I really enjoy math, but it's moot because I believe several players(yourself included) are suspicious enough to warrant a non-random lynch. 4) You refer to the post in which I unvoted Heph(No I don't have three hands, I suppose he get's a Smelly Foot of Suspicion, lol) and also HoSed you, but you missed "This will also explain why I was going to give Wonk an HoS"? 4A I didn't want to bring up the evidence because I was worried you were drawing attention to something that scum might've missed. I wasn't looking for someone else to come up with something. And if they had thought I meant something else then it would've been exactly what I was hoping for, but only because they hadn't noticed it. 5. Your note is really giving me the impression that instead of forming your own opinions you want to point things out, see what people come up with, and then push them towards your goal. First with radish and now with Heph. |
1. I'm ok with you finding it artificial. I really don't want to have to ask him to reword his answer several times till it makes sence and then have to ask more questions about the answers to figuer out where they don't make sence. I figure he'll be lynched one of the early days and I want to focus more elsewhere.
2. done with math
4. I saw the post where you said you would give me a HOS but said you couldn't because you have to hands and were useing them on Trash and heph. I only brough this up because then latter when you voted heph you promoted me to a full hand. Then when you unvoted him that left you with three. Or 2 and the smelly foot.
4A. I still don't like the idea of telling everyone you have an opinion without showing evidence. I can understand you were thinking the scum might not notice it but personally I don't think he was saying he himself had a power roll. If he was that was really stupid of him, but since it was said too late to try and hide it best to make everyone aware so other roles will be aware as well and act apropriatly.
5. I voted for him. I had decided to vote for him before I noted the possible slip and still voted for him before anyoen else gave an opinion. I have my own and used it. However it would be nice to ask other peoples since I already am thinking he's scum and might miss other possibilities. Or if someone else comes to the conclusion he's scum based on that without me useing it first. They won't be able to say I put the idea in their head.
Linkzmax said:
1.Yes that doesn't seem right. If Truck hand-picked the teams instead of using random.org then I'd have to give him scummy mod points. In all seriousness, your other idea does hold some merit but as I mentioned in the first linked post, I was worried that he may actually have an unsual role. I suppose if you are truly suspicious of him then you'd want to press him for an explanation now, as noname is attempting with ABC, but I am of the belief that it's not pro-town. It's certainly odd to be trying to force a claim with 0 votes on Heph at the time. 2.Yes I felt Heph was insulting, but I'm over it. No I don't think he disregarded my points. Well he's claiming much of it is actually prof's points and that implies I can't share the same thoughts, but for my independent points he's addressed them as he sees them. I wouldn't expect him to agree with me on them regardless of his alignment. 3.Why are you disappointed, does my unvote hinder your agenda?
4.Clearly I was wrong to accuse Heph of not observing things, because you're missing a lot of things. Well maybe not wrong, but you're definitely a bigger offender. Your interaction with Heph does remind me of the one last round with hat. The differences being obviously Heph isn't hat and you seem quite different this time around. I'm fairly certain at least one of you is scum and I'm very much leaning your way now. See below for the question which caused my unvote.
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1. I'm not trying to force a claim. That I do believe wouldn't be protown.
2. Maybe that is the case with your points I will have to look that over again myself. However he most certainly did do that with my points first calling illogical then irrelevant. That is a big scum tell to me. I don't see protown people just being that aggressive to dismiss points to make someone look bad.
3. I'm disappointed because I think we found scum and I was thinking we'd even get him lynched the first day. Also I'm disappointed because it means that what convinced me isn't enough to convince you and there probably won't be enough to convince you until a later day. So
4. Well it reminds me of it as well. Difference here being I'm trying it differently since last game it took you guys until after I was night killed to take out hat. Plus this time heph went for something that had already been bothering other people. However he does the same tactic of dismissing points. I do admit I've missed some things mainly because I skim over talk of older rounds that I wasn't in.
Linkzmax said:
Ahhhh, yes that makes a lot more sense. No Wonk, I lean towards Heph being scum, but I'm far from confident about it, and if I was then I would certainly push the lynch. I think I'd be more likely to expose the other(s) now, and if not a scum lynch on day one would be an incredible start. |
Sorry that it hadn't been clear. Glad it's cleared up now. Well that just leaves me being confident he's scum then. That's ok I've done this before :)
Oh and vote: time limit. By the time there is a vote for a time limit and then by the time it takes effect there will have been more than enough time for discussion.
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