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A Bad Clown on 16 February 2011
Hephaestos said:
A Bad Clown said:
Hephaestos said:
A Bad Clown said:
noname2200 said:
A Bad Clown said:

I am sorry, but I can not vote due to me having 4 votes.

If I were to vote, Heph could have his possible mafia buddy vote me.

?

You're still two votes away from getting hammered...

Shoot, if that's all that's stopping you,

Unvote

I may put it back on you, but now you're three votes away, so any scumbuddy of heph's won't get you to the brink.

Response: Thank you.

I am sorry Heph, but it seems you may be a danger.

It looked as if you were just being passive, but I do understand what people are talking about now.

vote: Heph

Statement: Now it seems unlikely for Heph to save himself and his mafia buddies, while lynching me in the proccess.

with this however you secured your lynch tomorow, you both provided no reason, outloud said you were bandwagoning and are the 'tipping point' voter which proff will regal to explain to you how it makes you scum (but tomorow on your trail part 2, as today is useless).

Statement: As you could tell, I did not want to vote you too much.

The other's have showed that it looked you were being sneaky and trying to "buddy" up.

Query: If I were not to vote you, who would I vote instead? We have no other leads, and I there's not much else I can do.

It was to vote you, or have myself wrongfully lynched.


well you'll see my point later i guess.

otherwise, there's always the no lynch option. i myself vote wonk but i'm not asking you to do so since evidently you weren't convinced by previous arguments on him, so it'd be pretty much the same thing as what you-re doing now.

Statement: I thought about no lynch, but it seemed no one else would do it.



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19:44:36 Skeezer FAILURE
19:44:51 ABadClown You're right!
19:44:55 ABadClown Hur hur hur
19:45:01 Skeezer i meant
19:45:04 Skeezer YOU ARE A FAILKURE
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Hephaestos on 16 February 2011
A Bad Clown said:
Hephaestos said:


well you'll see my point later i guess.

otherwise, there's always the no lynch option. i myself vote wonk but i'm not asking you to do so since evidently you weren't convinced by previous arguments on him, so it'd be pretty much the same thing as what you-re doing now.

Statement: I thought about no lynch, but it seemed no one else would do it.


well there is a learning curve when playing with a new crowd, this is one of the points you'll have to learn, here, who and most importantly how you voted can be considered as proof. To this intent, I strongly suggest you keep folowing the game after your death (it slows down with less players) if you play other rounds with us, like this you'll get to be familiar with the way things are done.



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Linkzmax on 16 February 2011
Hephaestos said:
Linkzmax said:
Hephaestos said:
Linkzmax said:

1) On the other hand, he could be an SK and thinks this tweak would keep the odds in favor of the main anti-town faction winning.

2)Third, I recalled that the last thing something with a role should do is hint at it.

Vote: Hephaestos

don't just spell check, also do reread what you say

1) I could be an SK because I talked about one.

2) I could be a power role but no cause I talked about one.

Very convincing points, i'm thinking of voting myself right now....

1) I think you're scum. Whether that's mafia or an SK, you're still anti-town.

2) I don't think you're a power role, because you may have hinted that you are one and that shouldn't be done. I'm not going to be duped again.

I appreciate the sarcasm, it makes me feel even more like I voted right.

right cause hinting at being a power role is a no no but hinting at being an SK is what? in the scum's playbook?

so if I get it straight you vote for me cause

A) proff thinks i'm buddying and you hopped on the idea early

B) I used the word "SK", booooh!

I don't know how scum think. I wouldn't put it past you to leave your scum-tell out in plain sight though.

Like I said in the post where I voted you. There are more reasons I voted for you, but I think I was seeing if your actions would make sense as scum, which doesn't necessarily mean the actions make you scummy. For example, when you asked Stefl if he was saying there are 4 mafiosi. I could read that as you're trying to draw attention to his statement with a false comprehension to keep yourself out of the spotlight. I know you said you misunderstood him, but I don't have any reason to believe you're not just lying. There were a couple of other examples in which you seemed to be missing an observation, but I'd have to dig them up if you want. Also, it's your own fault but you reminded me of when you defended me as mafia and you're doing the same for ABC. Once again, I know you said you hope you'll always do that regardless of alignment, but I have no evidence of that being true. I'm left believing you're trying to buddy up to him or look good if he's lynched and flips townie.

Now, his vote leaves a very sour taste in my mouth because I agree that his logic is extremely flawed on the whole matter. This post leads me to believe he doesn't really have a reason to be suspicious of you, and it's simply self-preservation. The former I do believe is scummy, and the latter is just neutral to me. It did make me consider unvoting you, but your reaction to the votes once again has me thinking I made the right choice. I am not going to take it personal, but insulting me certainly won't convince me that I'm wrong.



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trashleg on 16 February 2011
Linkzmax said:
trashleg said:
Linkzmax said:

trashleg said:

right. see this post, why was ABC apparently going along with the "prof will check people out thing"

if that was me and id said something so vague and potentially dangerously ambiguous, id be shitting myself trying to clarify.

Are you always so overly cautious?

i clearly said "if that was me". meaning, if i was in ABC's shoes, being considered alien scum, i wouldnt be goig about being all ambiguous. i'd be instantly trying to fix it for clarification, since the ambiguity(sp?) of what i'd said could be suspicious, especially if i went along with it so long like ABC did. that was all. (for the record of anyone else who noticed my saying that, i didnt say "if anyone thinks i say anything suspicious, il poop my pants". if you think so, i would consider my comment to have been taken out of context).

Nobody was pressuring ABC at the time he made the ambiguous statement though. Obviously he wasn't a confirmed townie, but he wasn't considered alien scum any more than the next guy or gal.
Or do you mean once questioned about it you'd(if it were you in his shoes) have quickly tried to be very clear about it?

As for the rest of my points, thank you for responding to them. I don't totally buy your answers, but I'm not going to continue on about the same points either.

I at that time thought he could be scum, and thought that if I was, and i said something ambiguous, i'd want it clarified. its easier to be suspicious of someone when what they've said is misleading, and they dont bother correcting you. yes i'd have tried to be clear about it, so there was no miscontruing of truths.

You don't have to totally buy them, but it is all true. Its not difficult to defend myself when I know i'm alright (:



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trashleg on 16 February 2011

whatever his alignment, Linkzmax is the shit.



Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.
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theprof00 on 16 February 2011
trashleg said:

whatever his alignment, Linkzmax is the shit.


linkzmax is a very scary player. I can only hope that I'm always on his team. 

He's improved my game immensely.

Get this, he's also a firefighter.



A Bad Clown on 16 February 2011
theprof00 said:
trashleg said:

whatever his alignment, Linkzmax is the shit.


linkzmax is a very scary player. I can only hope that I'm always on his team. 

He's improved my game immensely.

Get this, he's also a firefighter.

Statement: He must be some sort of super hero. Photoshop Idea!



19:44:34 Skeezer METAL GEAR ONLINE
19:44:36 Skeezer FAILURE
19:44:51 ABadClown You're right!
19:44:55 ABadClown Hur hur hur
19:45:01 Skeezer i meant
19:45:04 Skeezer YOU ARE A FAILKURE
19:45:08 Skeezer FAILURE*
theprof00 on 16 February 2011
A Bad Clown said:
theprof00 said:
trashleg said:

whatever his alignment, Linkzmax is the shit.


linkzmax is a very scary player. I can only hope that I'm always on his team. 

He's improved my game immensely.

Get this, he's also a firefighter.

Statement: He must be some sort of super hero. Photoshop Idea!

please, no more!!



Hephaestos on 16 February 2011
Linkzmax said:

 There were a couple of other examples in which you seemed to be missing an observation, but I'd have to dig them up if you want. Also, it's your own fault but you reminded me of when you defended me as mafia and you're doing the same for ABC. Once again, I know you said you hope you'll always do that regardless of alignment, but I have no evidence of that being true. I'm left believing you're trying to buddy up to him or look good if he's lynched and flips townie.

I am not going to take it personal, but insulting me certainly won't convince me that I'm wrong.


when did i ever defend you as mafia?

where did i insult you? you mean making fun of your failed logic? i'm sorry ot hurts your feelings but your points are so far from the construction you used us to.

in fact, you remind me of myself, the only time i ever was mafia on day one. i had to be convinced by nordlead to vote radish cause i was tangeant, much like your exchange with proff earlier. Evidently in the present case he didn't have a vote on me as his logic prevented him from doing that early association to my lynch, only problem for you is that he would have had legitimacy in voting me erroneously, you on the other hand only provided proof from your immagination.

heck i'll make a point.

Unvote

Vote Linkz

for being unable to build a case when playing as scum (that or this is gonna make me lol for a long while

Linkzmax said:

I'm not going to be duped again.

(for future reference, Wonk is still definitely scum, his lowered activity since i began getting heat is further sign of this... that or he let the praise he got go to his head this round).



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theprof00 on 16 February 2011
Hephaestos said:

(for future reference, Wonk is still definitely scum, his lowered activity since i began getting heat is further sign of this... that or he let the praise he got go to his head this round).

I did notice this. Having a hard time deciding what to do.

Also, I know that my post is maybe, what gniz would call, "undeserving of response", but not responding is a response in its own right, too.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3919485

theprof00 said:
Hephaestos said:
theprof00 said:
Hephaestos said:

6) I miss expressed myself it seems. If I could prove the reasons why you altered your gameplay, then I would vote for you. Evidently, you haven't produced much, one of the uppoints of your style is that you are a bit hidden behing your questions.

6) Fair enough, you fixed what was a logical fallacy into a pretty obvious statement. Well then, back at you. If I knew the reason why you are posting the way you are, I would have already voted you too.

6) No you wouldn't.

6) haha, I wouldn't? 

So what you're implying is that you're a townie, and I wouldn't vote for you if I knew you were a townie. Do you somehow know that I'm a townie, Heph? A mafia would surely vote for a townie.

(snipped for brevity)