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Wonktonodi said:
A Bad Clown said:
noname2200 said:
A Bad Clown said:

At first I was just plain voting Noname becuase he instant voted me because of my avatar...I think Trashleg or Heph are suspicious. I assume it was a joke vote because it looks like now we can unvote, I only saw the DBZ and other Mafia, I played this on a different site.

Why do you think Trash and Heph are suspicious?

Well hemp was saying as soon as I came in I looked funny, I think he wanted to vote me at some point. He also went after you (hopefully jokingly) and seemed to be accusing everyone. And I had an awesome photoshop idea for that Trashleg thing, I just think Trashleg left rather quickly and chatted with Heph  a lot.

So after linkz pointed out that Heph made a math error you said

A Bad Clown said:

So my suspicions of Heph can be justified? i thoiught everyone was trying to root him out in the first couple pages.

yet you post latter saying something that is more of a joke reason and you leave out the one that does make more sence.  Why?  Plus why would you be suspicous of someone if you yourself can't justify it?  It was like you were jsut throwing out suspicion for no reason and waiting for others to validate it.

I didn't want to because even this feels like a bandwagon but at the same time I need to do it.

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radishhead said:
A Bad Clown said:
radishhead said:
A Bad Clown said:
radishhead said:
radishhead said:
A Bad Clown said:
radishhead said:

Strange turn of events - don't forget that I haven't actually been suspicious this game - the only time that I've been mentioned is where Wonk was picking me out as an example of a player that we could lynch to get the numbers down. You can ask me whatever, but I don't have much to say.


Why do you think Wonk didn't suggest anyone else though?

He suggested a few, after he realised that singling out me was a mistake.

Not only this, but he admitted that he didn't have any grounds to be suspicious of me, and merely made misguided remarks about the last game, which Linkz was quick to put right. Nobody could have saw that coming last game - that's why nen was given the MVP, for pulling it off so well. 

In my opinion, the way that you've managed to divert suspicion off yourself by targeting another player that has had their name mentioned a few times seems considerably more suspicious. Maybe you should have done the research, and actually realised that there was nothing going on there at all.

Vote: A Bad Clown

Now that doesn't seem suspicious at all...

If you explain how it's suspicious, I'll try and solve the situation - but that response makes me feel more confident that I've hit a Mafia.


Well, when we decided to look at someone else you finally started talking to me. Earlier in the thread when I was being ganked you didn't have much to say about me. When prof and I decided to look into you specifically you at first didn't have much to say but quickly posted again about not really being suspcious of you. It looked like you wanted to keep low until you saw that others still had votes on me. This would have been the perfect time to vote me because the conversation against you restarted. Voting now would be tactical at this point when two people would both be questioning you. If the prof would have questioned you first, you would have to wait until you could appeal to him by voting the person he was suspicious of. Now that you've stated you want to vote me he will probably follow along, saving yourself.

1. Might that be because I was having to answer Wonk's questions? I've had to deal with problems this game too :s

2. Why do you keep linking yourself with prof anyway? I thought that the interrogation would have sorted that out

3. That's definitely unfair, since that conversation never ended. It's an ongoing thing - you'll find that people comment on your day 1 actions thoughout the entire game, and maybe even into future rounds.

4. There's a lot of situational things going on in this case too - I wouldn't have to do any of those things. Firstly, prof didn't question me first - Wonk did. Also, I'm not trying to appeal to Prof by putting a vote on you- I mentioned in my voting post that my vote was 100% because of the discussion that we had. Just me and you - prof isn't involved.

2. Because he's the only one who was active today and yesterday against me, and we did sort it out. I suggested he check out other suspicous users (like you). Orangetanget is MIA and so are noname and Hep. It was either you or Wonk, but Wonk seemed more realible so I chose you. As I mentioned too when you didn't post when you were online made it look like you were avoiding the conversation.

4. Everyone else in this game seems to be inactive so if you appeal to the most active, he'd easily spread the decision. I haven't seen final-fan for a while and he already voted me.



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Wonktonodi said:
A Bad Clown said:
Wonktonodi said:
A Bad Clown said:

Stop asking me questions when I'm sleeping! And I wanted to wait for the prof so I could look at everyone in the game before asking questions but I was rudely interrupted by multi questions on where I played this before >.>


I post when I'm online.  You can answer the questions when you come online.  Prof had already posted though. And other people had posted less than him.  So why not just say everyone instead of prof by name.  That lead to questions although I agree mostly irellavent about where else you have played because of your confusion about basic game mechanics yet familiarity with less basic things.

I said that when prof checked in, and I was already talking to noname and you before he started talking again.


Why would you need the prof to see if heph was a problem?  Or were you trying to mean you wanted to wait for the prof to be posting more so you could have your thoughts on him.  If the second is what you meant no one got that from your wording.

The second, sort of. I wantedto see prof post along with heph but that time I just wanted to see all the players start conversing and prof and tangent were the only ones not. I would have mentioned Tangent but he said he was gone and would come back yesterday...where the hell is tanget anyways?



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radishhead said:
Wonktonodi said:
radishhead said:

"Radish has been a weaker player in the two games I've been in.  I've had no interaction with ABC.  I'm all for people making the case though.  Even trangent with only one post so far could have a case made as well" 

That?

Isn't that confirming what I was just saying? You could choose to lynch ABC or trangent as "weaker players", but you chose me as an alternative due to misguided opinions on what occured at the end of last round.


It wasn't just the end of last round radish it was from the point you were confirmed a mason. Where you posted little and didn't do much to find scum plus hammering while people were still discussing. So my reason is much more than end game and it's not a misguided opinion. Also your post this round about hoping the thread doesn't explode because you had a hard time keeping up.  That with me really not wanting to have lynching someone new be an alternative for the first day.  However now I would like to see if we can find something better than an alternative.

Now I hope that makes it more clear to you. 

I thought that we'd solved this problem..

Don't forget that I didn't have a computer available last game - that was the reason that I couldn't keep up. 

I'll discuss my thoughts with you on this after this game. 



A Bad Clown said:
radishhead said:
A Bad Clown said:
radishhead said:
A Bad Clown said:
radishhead said:
radishhead said:
A Bad Clown said:
radishhead said:

Strange turn of events - don't forget that I haven't actually been suspicious this game - the only time that I've been mentioned is where Wonk was picking me out as an example of a player that we could lynch to get the numbers down. You can ask me whatever, but I don't have much to say.


Why do you think Wonk didn't suggest anyone else though?

He suggested a few, after he realised that singling out me was a mistake.

Not only this, but he admitted that he didn't have any grounds to be suspicious of me, and merely made misguided remarks about the last game, which Linkz was quick to put right. Nobody could have saw that coming last game - that's why nen was given the MVP, for pulling it off so well. 

In my opinion, the way that you've managed to divert suspicion off yourself by targeting another player that has had their name mentioned a few times seems considerably more suspicious. Maybe you should have done the research, and actually realised that there was nothing going on there at all.

Vote: A Bad Clown

Now that doesn't seem suspicious at all...

If you explain how it's suspicious, I'll try and solve the situation - but that response makes me feel more confident that I've hit a Mafia.


Well, when we decided to look at someone else you finally started talking to me. Earlier in the thread when I was being ganked you didn't have much to say about me. When prof and I decided to look into you specifically you at first didn't have much to say but quickly posted again about not really being suspcious of you. It looked like you wanted to keep low until you saw that others still had votes on me. This would have been the perfect time to vote me because the conversation against you restarted. Voting now would be tactical at this point when two people would both be questioning you. If the prof would have questioned you first, you would have to wait until you could appeal to him by voting the person he was suspicious of. Now that you've stated you want to vote me he will probably follow along, saving yourself.

1. Might that be because I was having to answer Wonk's questions? I've had to deal with problems this game too :s

2. Why do you keep linking yourself with prof anyway? I thought that the interrogation would have sorted that out

3. That's definitely unfair, since that conversation never ended. It's an ongoing thing - you'll find that people comment on your day 1 actions thoughout the entire game, and maybe even into future rounds.

4. There's a lot of situational things going on in this case too - I wouldn't have to do any of those things. Firstly, prof didn't question me first - Wonk did. Also, I'm not trying to appeal to Prof by putting a vote on you- I mentioned in my voting post that my vote was 100% because of the discussion that we had. Just me and you - prof isn't involved.

2. Because he's the only one who was active today and yesterday against me, and we did sort it out. I suggested he check out other suspicous users (like you). Orangetanget is MIA and so are noname and Hep. It was either you or Wonk, but Wonk seemed more realible so I chose you. As I mentioned too when you didn't post when you were online made it look like you were avoiding the conversation.

4. Everyone else in this game seems to be inactive so if you appeal to the most active, he'd easily spread the decision. I haven't seen final-fan for a while and he already voted me.

2. I've never avoided a conversation about me when I've been at my computer on VGC. If one of my posts had been quoted, I would have been there immediately, so there must be  something going wrong there.

4. Actually, where is FF? Besides, just because I'm active, doesn't mean that you need to target me - it's not like you've been posting particularly worthwhile arguments anyway, just ones spliced together from Wonk's posts.



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A Bad Clown said:
Wonktonodi said:
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Why would you need the prof to see if heph was a problem?  Or were you trying to mean you wanted to wait for the prof to be posting more so you could have your thoughts on him.  If the second is what you meant no one got that from your wording.

The second, sort of. I wantedto see prof post along with heph but that time I just wanted to see all the players start conversing and prof and tangent were the only ones not. I would have mentioned Tangent but he said he was gone and would come back yesterday...where the hell is tanget anyways?

Ok that makes sence but I hope you see how your wording caused people confusing and by not clearing it up makes you look worse.  I still have the other questions.  I requoted the post just a few of my posts back.



Wonktonodi said:
radishhead said:
Wonktonodi said:
radishhead said:

"Radish has been a weaker player in the two games I've been in.  I've had no interaction with ABC.  I'm all for people making the case though.  Even trangent with only one post so far could have a case made as well" 

That?

Isn't that confirming what I was just saying? You could choose to lynch ABC or trangent as "weaker players", but you chose me as an alternative due to misguided opinions on what occured at the end of last round.


It wasn't just the end of last round radish it was from the point you were confirmed a mason. Where you posted little and didn't do much to find scum plus hammering while people were still discussing. So my reason is much more than end game and it's not a misguided opinion. Also your post this round about hoping the thread doesn't explode because you had a hard time keeping up.  That with me really not wanting to have lynching someone new be an alternative for the first day.  However now I would like to see if we can find something better than an alternative.

Now I hope that makes it more clear to you. 

I thought that we'd solved this problem..

Don't forget that I didn't have a computer available last game - that was the reason that I couldn't keep up. 

I'll discuss my thoughts with you on this after this game. 

Why can't you talk now? If you've been paying attention to the game, you'll be able to tell that I'm in good condition.



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radishhead said:
A Bad Clown said:
radishhead said:
A Bad Clown said:
radishhead said:
A Bad Clown said:

Now that doesn't seem suspicious at all...

If you explain how it's suspicious, I'll try and solve the situation - but that response makes me feel more confident that I've hit a Mafia.


Well, when we decided to look at someone else you finally started talking to me. Earlier in the thread when I was being ganked you didn't have much to say about me. When prof and I decided to look into you specifically you at first didn't have much to say but quickly posted again about not really being suspcious of you. It looked like you wanted to keep low until you saw that others still had votes on me. This would have been the perfect time to vote me because the conversation against you restarted. Voting now would be tactical at this point when two people would both be questioning you. If the prof would have questioned you first, you would have to wait until you could appeal to him by voting the person he was suspicious of. Now that you've stated you want to vote me he will probably follow along, saving yourself.

1. Might that be because I was having to answer Wonk's questions? I've had to deal with problems this game too :s

2. Why do you keep linking yourself with prof anyway? I thought that the interrogation would have sorted that out

3. That's definitely unfair, since that conversation never ended. It's an ongoing thing - you'll find that people comment on your day 1 actions thoughout the entire game, and maybe even into future rounds.

4. There's a lot of situational things going on in this case too - I wouldn't have to do any of those things. Firstly, prof didn't question me first - Wonk did. Also, I'm not trying to appeal to Prof by putting a vote on you- I mentioned in my voting post that my vote was 100% because of the discussion that we had. Just me and you - prof isn't involved.

2. Because he's the only one who was active today and yesterday against me, and we did sort it out. I suggested he check out other suspicous users (like you). Orangetanget is MIA and so are noname and Hep. It was either you or Wonk, but Wonk seemed more realible so I chose you. As I mentioned too when you didn't post when you were online made it look like you were avoiding the conversation.

4. Everyone else in this game seems to be inactive so if you appeal to the most active, he'd easily spread the decision. I haven't seen final-fan for a while and he already voted me.

2. I've never avoided a conversation about me when I've been at my computer on VGC. If one of my posts had been quoted, I would have been there immediately, so there must be  something going wrong there.

4. Actually, where is FF? Besides, just because I'm active, doesn't mean that you need to target me - it's not like you've been posting particularly worthwhile arguments anyway, just ones spliced together from Wonk's posts.


Both final fan and tanget are missing, I think heph has an excuse because he's from France. FF did post once today and then left.



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radishhead said:
Wonktonodi said:
radishhead said:
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I thought that we'd solved this problem..

Don't forget that I didn't have a computer available last game - that was the reason that I couldn't keep up. 

I'll discuss my thoughts with you on this after this game. 

Why can't you talk now? If you've been paying attention to the game, you'll be able to tell that I'm in good condition.


Because it would get long and drawn out over a past game instead of focusing on this one and since this is the only place we can talk while this mafia game is going on it is best to wait.