Up to this point I woud  have disagreed strongly with this, and furthermore it seems like you're backpedaling a bit while continualy pushing the idea:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3910393 - "I don't know how well we can find scum first day but I figure if nothing really stands out we could vote for radish.  I'm not pushing for his lynch since there is still more time to discuss things however he's twice been used by scum at the endgame and I would rather not see that happen again."

Planting the seed for others to see radish as a viable lynch, then backpedal by saying you're not pushing for the lynch.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3911249 - "I'm saying we should still try and find scum but if no one really stands out instead of not lyniching because we think everyone is town we lynch the person who is most likely to hurt the town."

Watering the plant and trying to establish your opinion that radish is a liability as a fact.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3911603 - "I agree that most often it won't hit scum and heck even the person who gets lynched could be lynched with no scum involment.  That's why I was saying if nome one comes up really strongly we should take out well in this case you."

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3911604 - "If he no one else really stands out and he continues to perform in a similar manner.  If we see a new or improved radish this game maybe not."

More of the same, with a bit of backpedaling added in. Though the bolded gives me the impression that even if he does change you're likely to harbor this notion.

That last one ties in better with a more recent post, http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3912334 which is a bit enlightening to me. I would certainly like to hear what you think has changed with you, but perhaps you're right that it'd be best to have that conversation after this round or something. Anyway, I'm getting the impression that you have a sort of vendetta against radish. It's definitely fine to be disappointed with poor play, I mean I called him out on it a lot last round.(It may have been rude, but it was justified) However, if you are a townie then don't let it cloud your judgement. In a smaller game like this there's just very little room for error.

1) I see what you're saying now. I think my most recent posts do well to explain my stance on lynching just because a player is "weaker" and also the "need" for a day one lynch. I'm unlikely to vote/ push for your lynch right now, but I'll be keeping the FoS because you may have simply realized how bad you were looking and came up with a bit of a cover for it.

2) Everythign involving ABC is definitely my next focus, as that's the other big issue in the thread at the moment. I'm in need of sleep though so it's going to wait until after work tomorrow, and then I'll make sure there aren't any little extra posts that are slipping through the cracks. I'm also with some of you in wondering what trangent's deal is. That's all I want to say about that right now until(and if) he returns.

3) Hmmm, that is quite a contrast when you put it like that. I guess my point is that despite all the bad he did and all the good I did, I still messed things up just as much in the end. He may be a "weaker" player, but if he's a townie then he's still a valueable asset, just one that occasionally needs some direction. He can only improve if he's given a chance, but I'm worried if many share(or grow to share) your sentiments then radish will become the day one lynch staple and finally quit playing with us. I really don't want that to happen with anyone. I have an idea on that end,(in general not for radish specifically) but this game certainly isn't the time or place to discuss the matter.

wow ff, if... just wow linkz just nailed you

I don't think I could ever put something so...succinct as that. planting the seed, watering the plant...

while I don't think you're mafia entirely... that is really really bad

I agree, I was disliking Wonk's little crusade, but I didn't realize how ... bad it was.  And if Wonk is really motivated by how "weak" radish is, I really don't see why he's fixated on radish instead of, say, Clown. 

Those two (Wonk and ABC) are definitely at the top of my list. 

In his defense, I've been making similar comments about him throughout the game and I assume that he's made these posts to defend his point of view. It definitely seems that he's pushed his view a little too far, but I'm not going to lump him as a Mafia until I've heard his response.

@ABClown Situation: Is it really important that he plays Mafia on another site? I mentioned that I did that on my first game here and you guys just found the site, had a few lols at the 60 player game, and left it be. I'm sure that he's not a multi - let's just move on xO

@Wonk Situation Pt.2: I can't remember who commented on it, but they were wondering if my change of playstyle was "suspicious or progress" - it's definitely progress, and I'm glad you noticed :) In the Mason thread last round I said "it's time for a new and improved radishhead!" and I'm trying to keep to that promise.

1.  There is no cover just been clarification.  Said in the first one that I wasn't pushing for his lynch.  I did mean that.  However I was pushing for him to be an alternative to a no lynch.  Some might see that as the same thing but I do not.  So yes there would be points to justify that that could just as easily be seen as pushing for his lynch. 

2. I'm hoping to focus on this more as well. What started out as an after thought really.  It wasn't the main point of the post it was in has been given far too much time in relation to other things. 

3. I could have gone even further with the contrasts as well.  If I try and give him direction in game it would just look like I'm leading him. If I put presure on him he might do better and being a townie.  I'm not at all saying he should just be voted off first every round. I agree that I don't want it to make people quit playing. However some rounds it might be a good idea.  From the reaction I'm getting from everyone no one else agrees so most likely it will just remain my idea.

4. I personally don't see it as a vendetta against radish I saw it as me pushing for an alternative to a no lynch if there really wasn't anything strong against anybody.  However it is very likely now of at least one stronger case forming so this idea would be pointless. Yes this is a smaller round and there is little room for error.  So what happens if we don't lynch at all today?  We could very well get to a point where we have 4 people left and vote a second no lynch.  So in a sence giving the scum our lynch.** here is part of where I've changed**  With there being little room for error I'm not sure if that would be the best.  So I figure go for the weakest person. Yes I flat out said radish when someone else could be considered weaker and if someone persuaded me I might agree.  Once again though this was the option for if we don't find someone who actually looks scummy.

Funny though I don't really feel nailed. Read my previous post to see why.  Why do you think it's really really bad?

I would also like to know what you mean by bad.

Radish has been a weaker player in the two games I've been in.  I've had no interaction with ABC.  I'm all for people making the case though.  Even trangent with only one post so far could have a case made as well. 

:D

I'll ask the question in a simpler way.  Why did you say you will wait for theprof to check him out?  This is one of the reasons people think you are suspicios myself included even if I haven't fos you.