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modkill or not, i'd like a lynch unless anyone can convince me why this is not a good idea? especially when we have strong enough collective suspicions that its a mafia we're voting for.



Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.
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theprof00 said:
Final-Fan said:

Hang on a minute.  You are asking me questions, yet you explicitly refuse to have a dialogue.  You demand that others respond in your stead, possibly also requiring that they use psychic powers to divine what arguments exactly you would use to counter my posts. 

And you are currently asking me silly questions. 

I guess I should stop talking to you as well if this is going to be how you are conducting yourself, especially since you've proven that you are once again lying your ass off whenever the whim strikes you. 

I can't get myself to respond to your posts without noting the incredible exaggeration, the excuses that you shoulder onto me, and the weird logic.

You say approx zero percent chance. EXACTLY. (well, not exactly, we still don't know from stefl, and the odds aren't simply based on a dice roll or anything, but it's going to be somewhere in the 15% range.)

~15% chance or so, that I am wrong about them not seeing the clue.

And I only saw it because I had wonk's post to go by.

You talk about how MAFIA are the ones to look for evidence in posts, yet you completely ignore that trash saw the clue.

I just don't know how to even begin a discussion with you. So many things in your posts shoot up like red flags to me, and I only see myself addressing those, when I'm pretty damn confident that you're just a paranoid townie. For example, you talk about monopolizing the thread, and now you're goading me into responding to your long post.

It's not going to end, FF. How do you not see that? We are arguing over details, and this argument will overpower anything else.

So, I'm DONE.

You, trash, and stefl are mafia confirmed



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theprof00 said:
Final-Fan said:

In fact -- and Linkzmax may have been alluding to this when he expressed suspicion of people who DID see it as a clue and predict the doctor flip -- the people with a motive to get extra information out of the night post to help them during the night are guess what? 

Mafia. 

and just to clarify for you, again, linkz said nothing about noticing the clue being suspicious.

He said, "I don't know you're town, but I am more suspicious of those that say they knew for certain than those that say they weren't sure"

The point being, that if you KNOW, that means you are scum, because a townie should be unsure.

Don't worry, I understood you the first time (this time).  I simply misremembered Linkz's post. 



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Linkzmax said:

 

 

Still no answer from Stefl?

Bah, it seems VGC ate another one of my posts. This time I can't "relocate" it and I don't remember what I was saying. I do recall that that I was going to vote for ABC then, but I didn't want to put him at L-1 with prof's investigation still going on, so I was going to vote upon my return. That's where I'm going to put him now, so if there's ever a time to pressure about that "good role" it'd be now.

Vote: A Bad Clown Nevermind, I see a modkill might be going out. [Not an edit in any sense, just refreshed the thread before posting]

Reasons: Using future events to explain past behavior, as pointed out at least three times. Although some of his suspicions do make sense, and he may be onto something; most of the them are very illogical and then dropped for the most bizarre of reasons.('X' is too active to be scum while 'Y' hasn't said enough to be scum) Simply put his scumhunting has been nonexistent. Both votes yesterday were bandwagons, and both on players that he had said he was no longer suspicious of. This "Republic as doc" idea was either a confession or meant to be a distraction.

 

I still don't like this assumption that the kill was because Republic was the doctor. Should ABC flip scum,(and I think it's likely he will) then I'd be more comfortable with that assumption, but not before it. Even then I'd have to wonder if it was an intentional slip to keep attention off of his alien partner(s).

But, has anyone read my post (or a less likely scenario) from a while ago? I could've been biased by already knowing Wonk's flip, but it didn't take long at all to come up with that logic. Given more than 2 days to think about it, I would think it surely had to be thought up. Which means it was(thought up) or... well I can't think of any 3 players(2 sure, but not 3) that wouldn't have been able to make that leap in logic if they were aliens. Getting to the point: I'm still not sure what to think after a flip.

 

 

yeah I read both of those, but I didn't entirely agree on the less likely one. 

Anyway, I had been thinking about your first postulation; That without noticing the scalpel, the mafia could still have known that he was the doc. This is true, however, I've found some contrary evidence.

Ok, so remember when I asked everyone how surprised they were? I feigned surprise and then called them all suspicious for being surprised. There were three people. So, from a mafia standpoint, I had sprung a trap, making "surprised players" suspicious, while by the virute of myself being in the "not-surprised" made the category I was in the "safe" category. 

So, it was safe to know about wonk's role for the remaining 5 players.

I cannot, at this point, think of a reason why what has happened can support your idea that they knew about wonk.

 

I still need to look at everything that those last 5 people (4 without stefl) said, and then figure out what should have been the most natural reactions.

At this juncture, on some brief investigation, I confess that I am extremely suspicious of trashleg.

 

 



Final-Fan said:

You, trash, and stefl are mafia confirmed

well, trash is pushing for a lynch despite the incoming modkill of stefl. That points to me that stefl is town and trash is mafia. 



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theprof00 said:
Final-Fan said:

You, trash, and stefl are mafia confirmed

well, trash is pushing for a lynch despite the incoming modkill of stefl. That points to me that stefl is town and trash is mafia. 


im still hopeful there wont be a modkill. ive asked a couple of vgcharters to come fill the role.

im not mafia, but i have a suspicion of who is and i would like to see him lynched.



Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.
theprof00 said:
Final-Fan said:

You, trash, and stefl are mafia confirmed

well, trash is pushing for a lynch despite the incoming modkill of stefl. That points to me that stefl is town and trash is mafia. 


Response: I believe that would be a very bad situation then, let us pray someone replaces stefl and we can get more information.



19:44:34 Skeezer METAL GEAR ONLINE
19:44:36 Skeezer FAILURE
19:44:51 ABadClown You're right!
19:44:55 ABadClown Hur hur hur
19:45:01 Skeezer i meant
19:45:04 Skeezer YOU ARE A FAILKURE
19:45:08 Skeezer FAILURE*

Current Votes (5 needed to lynch):

[1, L-4] theprof00: Final-Fan
[0, L-5] noname2200: (Hephaestos)
[3, L-2] A Bad Clown: (theprof00); radishhead; trashleg; Linkzmax



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TruckOSaurus said:

Current Votes (5 needed to lynch):

[1, L-4] theprof00: Final-Fan
[0, L-5] noname2200: (Hephaestos)
[3, L-2] A Bad Clown: (theprof00); radishhead; trashleg; Linkzmax


I;m trying to ask some people I know if they want to replace stefl, probably no one will though.



19:44:34 Skeezer METAL GEAR ONLINE
19:44:36 Skeezer FAILURE
19:44:51 ABadClown You're right!
19:44:55 ABadClown Hur hur hur
19:45:01 Skeezer i meant
19:45:04 Skeezer YOU ARE A FAILKURE
19:45:08 Skeezer FAILURE*