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M.U.G.E.N on 11 February 2011
Buzzi said:
binary solo said:
Buzzi said:
binary solo said:
Buzzi said:

It will be boring until 25th March...then, at least FW, 3DS will destroy everything else. Unfortunately the million shipped will last some days, not much more.

Bah, who cares about 3DS vs. PS3 they're not in direct competition. If PS3 rides out most of the year ahead of Wii week on week then that's an amazing result considering those consoles' relative positions just 2 years ago. PS3 is doing great everywhere other than Americas. Effing up in America is really going to end up being the only significant downside to PS3's performance by the end of the generation. Losing UK is also a bit of a bummer but in the scheme of things it's not as big of a deal. Distant 2nd in Japan's a pooh as well, but it's recoverable for next gen, unlike Americas.

Everything below 200K WW this week? Or will 360 squeeze past? It's possible if it's more or less flat in Americas.


Talking about great triumphs or victories when everything is in a 10k range shows how poor sales are. 3DS will change that (if there aren't supply constrains) so for me those weeks will be interesting. These ones are meh, we all know the decline of the Wii and the surge of the HD systems, the power of PS2 and DS, the conflict between flop/win for PSP. Same week as many coming.

You will notice of course that I was talking about PS3 potentially doing amazingly if it stays ahead of Wii all year, if so that will be more than merely 10K. Also you notice I reference the relative performances 2 years ago. Just to save the bother this was the weekly sales this time 2 years ago:

DS 180,048 ( 4%) 37,457,795
Wii 146,230 ( 1%) 16,671,936
PSP 94,237 (-4%) 18,538,678
PS3 77,371 (-1%) 8,766,295
X360 71,107 (-1%) 10,333,518
PS2 64,971 (-7%) 58,071,625

Now tell me there hasn't been a reveresal of fortunes Wii to PS3. 67K in favour of Wii then, 23K in favour of PS3 now. We are talking about 90K change around, not just 10K. If on 31 January 2009 I told you that in 2 years PS3 would sell 20K more than Wii on the same week, you would have laughed so hard that yesterdays coke would have spurted out your nose onto the screen.


You're right of course, but asking the Wii to sell more than its competitors, which had more than just a price cut (redesigns, big third party exclusives, Move/Kinect) is foolish. When the HD systems will reach 80m do you think they'll keep selling like now? Sony and Microsoft had a great comeback, but comparing the sales of a system which sold just average for its whole life with the record-breaking system is not right. Actually, the Wii is still over the PS2 in the same time-frame I think. Won't reach it because there's not a Wii Slim...

well considering how wii is the cheapest of three, and comes bundled with 2-3 games with every system, had several colors released last year, I think it's unfair to make it sound as if HD did so many things yet wii had nothing going for it  which lead to the current situation. Fact of the matter is outside of holidays, the HD twins have turned things around big time....I also think both HD's, especially ps3, will have greater legs HW wise than the wii in the future as well. But that's something only time will tell



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Buzzi on 11 February 2011
M.U.G.E.N said:
Buzzi said:
binary solo said:
Buzzi said:
binary solo said:
Buzzi said:

It will be boring until 25th March...then, at least FW, 3DS will destroy everything else. Unfortunately the million shipped will last some days, not much more.

Bah, who cares about 3DS vs. PS3 they're not in direct competition. If PS3 rides out most of the year ahead of Wii week on week then that's an amazing result considering those consoles' relative positions just 2 years ago. PS3 is doing great everywhere other than Americas. Effing up in America is really going to end up being the only significant downside to PS3's performance by the end of the generation. Losing UK is also a bit of a bummer but in the scheme of things it's not as big of a deal. Distant 2nd in Japan's a pooh as well, but it's recoverable for next gen, unlike Americas.

Everything below 200K WW this week? Or will 360 squeeze past? It's possible if it's more or less flat in Americas.


Talking about great triumphs or victories when everything is in a 10k range shows how poor sales are. 3DS will change that (if there aren't supply constrains) so for me those weeks will be interesting. These ones are meh, we all know the decline of the Wii and the surge of the HD systems, the power of PS2 and DS, the conflict between flop/win for PSP. Same week as many coming.

You will notice of course that I was talking about PS3 potentially doing amazingly if it stays ahead of Wii all year, if so that will be more than merely 10K. Also you notice I reference the relative performances 2 years ago. Just to save the bother this was the weekly sales this time 2 years ago:

DS 180,048 ( 4%) 37,457,795
Wii 146,230 ( 1%) 16,671,936
PSP 94,237 (-4%) 18,538,678
PS3 77,371 (-1%) 8,766,295
X360 71,107 (-1%) 10,333,518
PS2 64,971 (-7%) 58,071,625

Now tell me there hasn't been a reveresal of fortunes Wii to PS3. 67K in favour of Wii then, 23K in favour of PS3 now. We are talking about 90K change around, not just 10K. If on 31 January 2009 I told you that in 2 years PS3 would sell 20K more than Wii on the same week, you would have laughed so hard that yesterdays coke would have spurted out your nose onto the screen.


You're right of course, but asking the Wii to sell more than its competitors, which had more than just a price cut (redesigns, big third party exclusives, Move/Kinect) is foolish. When the HD systems will reach 80m do you think they'll keep selling like now? Sony and Microsoft had a great comeback, but comparing the sales of a system which sold just average for its whole life with the record-breaking system is not right. Actually, the Wii is still over the PS2 in the same time-frame I think. Won't reach it because there's not a Wii Slim...

well considering how wii is the cheapest of three, and comes bundled with 2-3 games with every system, had several colors released last year, I think it's unfair to make it sound as if HD did so many things yet wii had nothing going for it  which lead to the current situation. Fact of the matter is outside of holidays, the HD twins have turned things around big time....I also think both HD's, especially ps3, will have greater legs HW wise than the wii in the future as well. But that's something only time will tell


Wii is not the cheapest of the three, atleast in Italy I can find a 360 for less than a Wii (150 against 180€).

For the rest yes, Wii had something to push sales; still I don't think everything you mentioned can be compared to a redesign, but it's just my opinion.



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scat398 on 11 February 2011

Sony's strength in EMAA still seems to be coming from the non competitive markets they have developed in Africa and Asia.  They are essentially tied with the Wii in competing markets and only 15K ahead of the 360.  While I think this is a good strategy for Sony I would be concerned if either nintendo or MS started penetrating those markets. 



NYANKS on 11 February 2011
kowenicki said:

Oh... forgot to mention....

Mass Effect 2 (PS3) sales stink to high heaven.

Did you expect it to sell like the Xbox version?  What precendent caused you to think that?  Bioshock?



BHR-3 on 11 February 2011
kowenicki said:

People seem to be ignoring YOY changes in their summaries of this weeks performance and getting a little carried away.

The only real story this week for the home consoles is that the Wii is again much weaker than it was... the PS3 and 360 are pretty much in line with last year, with the 360 dropping the least YOY.  

So the PS3 isnt any stronger than it was, the Wii is just much weaker.  

The difference between the PS3 and 360 is actually less than this time last year.

YOY

360 down 6%

PS3 down 10%

Wii down 37%

 

 


by what 5k?

thats cause PS3 just had a pricecut then

this yr it just had gt5 and gow3 early 2010 compared to 360s recent events of a complete remodel, Reach, COD timed exclusive DLCs and Kinect and dont forget the 250gb 360 is cheaper than the 160Gb PS3 in EU

if all those things couldnt shrink the gap between the two in weekly sales in EU what will? PS3s cheapest sku is still  £249, €299 what do you think is gonna happen once that gets reduced this fall?



                                                             

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D-Joe on 11 February 2011

PS3 and 360 both will get price cut on 2nd half or later

and looks like LBP/DCU really nothing for you(well i dont think so)



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NYANKS on 11 February 2011
kowenicki said:
BHR-3 said:
kowenicki said:

People seem to be ignoring YOY changes in their summaries of this weeks performance and getting a little carried away.

The only real story this week for the home consoles is that the Wii is again much weaker than it was... the PS3 and 360 are pretty much in line with last year, with the 360 dropping the least YOY.  

So the PS3 isnt any stronger than it was, the Wii is just much weaker.  

The difference between the PS3 and 360 is actually less than this time last year.

YOY

360 down 6%

PS3 down 10%

Wii down 37%

 

 


by what 5k?

thats cause PS3 just had a pricecut then

this yr it just had gt5 and gow3 early 2010 compared to 360s recent events of a complete remodel, Reach, COD timed exclusive DLCs and Kinect and dont forget the 250gb 360 is cheaper than the 160Gb PS3 in EU

if all those things couldnt shrink the gap between the two in weekly sales in EU what will? PS3s cheapest sku is still  £249, €299 what do you think is gonna happen once that gets reduced this fall?

First of all... why so defensive? 

Secodly... EVERYTHING that I said is pure hard facts... no opinion.

Thirdly... regarding the bold, well clearly the 360 will be cheaper then too.

I guess the insinuation is that PS3 coming down from a relatively more expensive price to a cheaper one would be more impactful than coming down from an already realtively cheap price?  I guess the point that PS3 has more room to drop is valid enough though.



elvacano80 on 11 February 2011
ethomaz said:
cmeese47 said:

Last Year 360 had the best software and deserved to be number 1

When 360 became number 1 last year???


go read a book



 

 

ethomaz on 12 February 2011
elvacano80 said:
ethomaz said:
cmeese47 said:

Last Year 360 had the best software and deserved to be number 1

When 360 became number 1 last year???


go read a book

Unnecessary and meaningless comment.

What did you want to say with it???



Alby_da_Wolf on 12 February 2011

Not bad overall, for the season. Very good PS3.



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