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jarrod on 10 February 2011
makingmusic476 said:

Though I suppose many may consider it pointless, given how little a Wii version will add to their total figures.


That doesn't seem to stop 3rd parties from throwing out 360 versions that go on to do worse.  Wii/PS3 multiplatform development also has an inherent lower cost advantage in that by Wii being a target platform, assets and technology are built around 480p from the get go.

Basically, Wii/PS3 is both cheaper to do and sells more than 360/PS3.



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Gaged12 on 10 February 2011

I couldn't agree more with this article, I have currently switched out my motion control with the Playstation Move. Visually NOT dead



gurglesletch on 10 February 2011

Devs hate Wii confirmed?




Get your Portable ID!

Boutros on 10 February 2011
jarrod said:
Galaki said:

Why are you guys saying Nintendo focusing on 3DS when it's the 3rd parties that ignored the Wii?


That's really true.  Nintendo arguably still has the strongest 1st party lineup for 2011 and on in Japan currently, both critically and commercially... actual JP developed games bolded...

 

Wii

 

  • Fatal Frame II remake (Tecmo Koei)
  • Goldeneye 007 (Eurocom)
  • Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft Paris)
  • Kirby (HAL Laboratory)
  • Pikmin 3 (Nintendo EAD)
  • Pokemon title (Genius Sonority?)
  • Rhythm Heaven Wii (Nintendo SPD)
  • Start with 100 Words! English Conversation (???)
  • The Last Story (Mistwalker / AQ Interactive)
  • The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (Nintendo EAD)
  • Tower of Pandora (???)

 

PlayStation 3

 

  • Bleach: Soul Ignition (Racjin)
  • inFamous 2 (Sucker Punch Studios)
  • Killzone 3 (Guerilla Games)
  • LittleBigPlanet 2 (Media Molecule)
  • MotorStorm Apocalypse (Evolution Studio)
  • PlayStation Move Heroes (Nihilistic Software)
  • Ratchet & Clank: All-4-One (Insomniac Games)
  • Sly Cooper 4 (Sucker Punch Studios)
  • S.O.C.O.M. 4: US Navy SEALs (Zipper Interactive)
  • Sorcery (The Workshop)
  • The Last Guardian (Japan Studio)
  • Tokyo Jungle (Crispy's)
  • Tumble (SuperMassive Games)
  • Twisted Metal (Eat Sleep Play)
  • Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception (Naughty Dog Software)

 

Xbox 360

 

  • codename D (Grasshopper Manufacture)
  • Codename Kingdoms (Crytek)
  • Dance Central (Harmonix Music Systems)
  • Fighters Uncaged (AMA Studios)
  • Forza Motorsport 4 (Turn 10 Studio)
  • Gears of War 3 (Epic Games)
  • Halo: Combat Evolved remake (343 Industries)
  • Haunt (NanaOnSha)
  • Kinect Star Wars (LucasArts)
  • Project Draco (Grounding / Land Ho)

Eh...that's a very flawed list jarrod. Many many of these games aren't 1st party.



A203D on 10 February 2011

Dragon Quest 10, could have a DQ9 effect on the Wii.



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jarrod on 11 February 2011
Boutros said:
jarrod said:
Galaki said:

Why are you guys saying Nintendo focusing on 3DS when it's the 3rd parties that ignored the Wii?


That's really true.  Nintendo arguably still has the strongest 1st party lineup for 2011 and on in Japan currently, both critically and commercially... actual JP developed games bolded...

 

Wii

 

  • Fatal Frame II remake (Tecmo Koei)
  • Goldeneye 007 (Eurocom)
  • Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft Paris)
  • Kirby (HAL Laboratory)
  • Pikmin 3 (Nintendo EAD)
  • Pokemon title (Genius Sonority?)
  • Rhythm Heaven Wii (Nintendo SPD)
  • Start with 100 Words! English Conversation (???)
  • The Last Story (Mistwalker / AQ Interactive)
  • The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (Nintendo EAD)
  • Tower of Pandora (???)

 

PlayStation 3

 

  • Bleach: Soul Ignition (Racjin)
  • inFamous 2 (Sucker Punch Studios)
  • Killzone 3 (Guerilla Games)
  • LittleBigPlanet 2 (Media Molecule)
  • MotorStorm Apocalypse (Evolution Studio)
  • PlayStation Move Heroes (Nihilistic Software)
  • Ratchet & Clank: All-4-One (Insomniac Games)
  • Sly Cooper 4 (Sucker Punch Studios)
  • S.O.C.O.M. 4: US Navy SEALs (Zipper Interactive)
  • Sorcery (The Workshop)
  • The Last Guardian (Japan Studio)
  • Tokyo Jungle (Crispy's)
  • Tumble (SuperMassive Games)
  • Twisted Metal (Eat Sleep Play)
  • Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception (Naughty Dog Software)

 

Xbox 360

 

  • codename D (Grasshopper Manufacture)
  • Codename Kingdoms (Crytek)
  • Dance Central (Harmonix Music Systems)
  • Fighters Uncaged (AMA Studios)
  • Forza Motorsport 4 (Turn 10 Studio)
  • Gears of War 3 (Epic Games)
  • Halo: Combat Evolved remake (343 Industries)
  • Haunt (NanaOnSha)
  • Kinect Star Wars (LucasArts)
  • Project Draco (Grounding / Land Ho)

Eh...that's a very flawed list jarrod. Many many of these games aren't 1st party.

1st party published.  I don't see any of these games on the previously posted 3rd party lists?



jarrod on 11 February 2011

Anyway, for the Wii Japan deathwatch, here's the current announced list for Japan with dates... exclusives bolded...

 

  • 02.24.11 Rune Factory Oceans (Marvelous Entertainment / Neverland) 
  • 02.24.11 SD Gundam G Generation World SD (Bandai / Banpresoft) 
  • 03.24.11 Ikenie no Yoru (Marvelous Entertainment) 
  • 03.24.11 Yu-Gi-Oh 5D's: Duel Transfer (Konami)
  • 04.07.11 Billy's Boot Camp: Wii de Enjoy Diet! (Rocket Company)
  • 04.07.11 Earth Seeker (Kadokawa Games / Crafts & Meister)
  • 04.28.11 Inazuma Eleven Strikers (Level 5)
  • SPR.11 Buttobi Hero Crashman (Tomy / Twelve Games) 
  • SPR.11 Pandora no Tou: Kimi no Moto e Kaerumade (Nintendo)
  • 2011 007 Goldeneye (Nintendo / Activision / Eurocom)
  • 2011 Deca Sporta 4: Wii de Sports "10" Shumoku! (Konami / Hudson)
  • 2011 Hoshi no Kirby Wii (Nintendo / HAL Laboratory)
  • 2011 Just Dance 2 (Nintendo / Ubisoft)
  • 2011 Michael Jackson: The Experience (Ubisoft) 
  • 2011 Pokemon New Work (Pokemon Company)
  • 2011 Power Smash 4: Sega Professional Tennis (Sega) 
  • 2011 Rhythm Tengoku Wii (Nintendo)
  • 2011 Tenkuu no Kishi Rodea (Kadokawa Games / Prope) 
  • 2011 Zelda no Densetsu: Skyward Sword (Nintendo)
  • 2011 Zero New Work (Nintendo / Tecmo Koei)
  • TBA 100-Go de Start! Eikaiwa (Nintendo)
  • TBA Dragon Quest X (Square Enix)


NoirSon on 11 February 2011
gurglesletch said:

Devs hate Wii confirmed?


It was confirmed over a year ago, this is just piling on evidence, both Western developers and Japanese hate the system for being weaker then 360/PS3 and for forcing them into possibly having to come up with fun motion controls.

But really, Japan seems to have drifted away from consoles in general. Most of the releases that are being generated are usually brough over to the West and multiplatform with the 360 because that is where the money is for console games.



DonFerrari on 11 February 2011
jarrod said:
Galaki said:

Why are you guys saying Nintendo focusing on 3DS when it's the 3rd parties that ignored the Wii?


That's really true.  Nintendo arguably still has the strongest 1st party lineup for 2011 and on in Japan currently, both critically and commercially... actual JP developed games bolded...

 

Wii

 

  • Fatal Frame II remake (Tecmo Koei)
  • Goldeneye 007 (Eurocom)
  • Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft Paris)
  • Kirby (HAL Laboratory)
  • Pikmin 3 (Nintendo EAD)
  • Pokemon title (Genius Sonority?)
  • Rhythm Heaven Wii (Nintendo SPD)
  • Start with 100 Words! English Conversation (???)
  • The Last Story (Mistwalker / AQ Interactive)
  • The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (Nintendo EAD)
  • Tower of Pandora (???)

 

 

PlayStation 3

 

  • Bleach: Soul Ignition (Racjin)
  • inFamous 2 (Sucker Punch Studios)
  • Killzone 3 (Guerilla Games)
  • LittleBigPlanet 2 (Media Molecule)
  • MotorStorm Apocalypse (Evolution Studio)
  • PlayStation Move Heroes (Nihilistic Software)
  • Ratchet & Clank: All-4-One (Insomniac Games)
  • Sly Cooper 4 (Sucker Punch Studios)
  • S.O.C.O.M. 4: US Navy SEALs (Zipper Interactive)
  • Sorcery (The Workshop)
  • The Last Guardian (Japan Studio)
  • Tokyo Jungle (Crispy's)
  • Tumble (SuperMassive Games)
  • Twisted Metal (Eat Sleep Play)
  • Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception (Naughty Dog Software)

 

 

Xbox 360

 

  • codename D (Grasshopper Manufacture)
  • Codename Kingdoms (Crytek)
  • Dance Central (Harmonix Music Systems)
  • Fighters Uncaged (AMA Studios)
  • Forza Motorsport 4 (Turn 10 Studio)
  • Gears of War 3 (Epic Games)
  • Halo: Combat Evolved remake (343 Industries)
  • Haunt (NanaOnSha)
  • Kinect Star Wars (LucasArts)
  • Project Draco (Grounding / Land Ho)

 


When did Fatal Frame became 1st party?? It launched in PS2

And 1st party published??? Never heard of it, a game is 1st party when they are developed in house, 2nd party when a 3rd party company develop a IP that belongs to one of the 3 companies and sell exclusively on that system, or a 3rd party when they are independent..

In your reasoning a 3rd party exclusive game should be counted as 1st party?? this how some people counts Gears of War and Halo as first party up until now?? Fancy that.



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Boutros on 11 February 2011
jarrod said:
Boutros said:
jarrod said:
Galaki said:

Why are you guys saying Nintendo focusing on 3DS when it's the 3rd parties that ignored the Wii?


That's really true.  Nintendo arguably still has the strongest 1st party lineup for 2011 and on in Japan currently, both critically and commercially... actual JP developed games bolded...

 

Wii

 

  • Fatal Frame II remake (Tecmo Koei)
  • Goldeneye 007 (Eurocom)
  • Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft Paris)
  • Kirby (HAL Laboratory)
  • Pikmin 3 (Nintendo EAD)
  • Pokemon title (Genius Sonority?)
  • Rhythm Heaven Wii (Nintendo SPD)
  • Start with 100 Words! English Conversation (???)
  • The Last Story (Mistwalker / AQ Interactive)
  • The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (Nintendo EAD)
  • Tower of Pandora (???)

 

PlayStation 3

 

  • Bleach: Soul Ignition (Racjin)
  • inFamous 2 (Sucker Punch Studios)
  • Killzone 3 (Guerilla Games)
  • LittleBigPlanet 2 (Media Molecule)
  • MotorStorm Apocalypse (Evolution Studio)
  • PlayStation Move Heroes (Nihilistic Software)
  • Ratchet & Clank: All-4-One (Insomniac Games)
  • Sly Cooper 4 (Sucker Punch Studios)
  • S.O.C.O.M. 4: US Navy SEALs (Zipper Interactive)
  • Sorcery (The Workshop)
  • The Last Guardian (Japan Studio)
  • Tokyo Jungle (Crispy's)
  • Tumble (SuperMassive Games)
  • Twisted Metal (Eat Sleep Play)
  • Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception (Naughty Dog Software)

 

Xbox 360

 

  • codename D (Grasshopper Manufacture)
  • Codename Kingdoms (Crytek)
  • Dance Central (Harmonix Music Systems)
  • Fighters Uncaged (AMA Studios)
  • Forza Motorsport 4 (Turn 10 Studio)
  • Gears of War 3 (Epic Games)
  • Halo: Combat Evolved remake (343 Industries)
  • Haunt (NanaOnSha)
  • Kinect Star Wars (LucasArts)
  • Project Draco (Grounding / Land Ho)

Eh...that's a very flawed list jarrod. Many many of these games aren't 1st party.

1st party published.  I don't see any of these games on the previously posted 3rd party lists?

-.-

Really?