Mr.Metralha said:
Just imagine Playstation the Fourh. Always the last. ROFL, d0med. |
Completely random answer but yeah dude.
With what hard-drives are currently used for in a gaming console, I see little value in going with a solid state drive; and at the same time the (relatively) lower storage space from an affordable SSD could make it difficult to migrate to digital distribution for games.
I'm expecting that most of the console manufacturers will have a service that is somewhat like Steam which allows their users to download any game that was released for their system. If you have a 100GB hard drive, I would expect this would only allow you to download 4 to 10 next generation games.
Don't get me wrong, I fully expect these companies to support retail sales for the forseeable future; but I think that they will want to move towards digital distribution for a wide variety of reasons. First off these games can then be sold at full price and both the console manufacturer and game publisher can split the retailers "cut" increasing their revenue per game sold. Secondly, it could be argued that a lot of games lose sales because they're simply not available in retail stores; and finally, it allows them to sell most games at a discount after they have been on the market for awhile and try to 'steal' these sales away from used game sales.
| ArnoldRimmer said: Neither will be in the PS4. SSDs are great for sure - low power consumption, very fast, no noise etc. But they won't be in the PS4 because they are simply extremely expensive - the price/capacity ratio is orders of magnitude worse than HDDs. And prices won't drop that fast. The solution the PS3 already uses is better, because it is more flexible and already allows for SSDs: You can use ANY storage that you can plug into a standard 2,5" SATA bay. So the choice is up to you: You can either use a standard HDD with lots of gigabytes and low prices, but if you really want the benefits of SSDs, simply buy a 2,5" SATA-SSD. And integrated Android is highly unlikely for a stationary game console that doesn't even have a touchscreen. If anything, we might see the return of "Other OS". That would be a more flexible solution and would enable running Android as well.
Here is my prediction what the PS4 will have: It will ship with a camera/microphone combination similar to the Playstation Eye, but probably stereoscopic 3D and HD. And it will probably also have a split motion controller like PS Move and Wii. |
Integrated Android is already in devices without a touchscreen. Stationary/mobile isn't really an issue, but if Chrome OS is meant for the PC then I agree it's more likely to be Chrome (I didn't know there was a Chrome OS, so putting it in PS4 will mean better mass market awareness)
From a HDD perspective PS3/4 is a mobile device, because it uses laptop HDDs not PC HDDs, so wither goes the laptop, so goes the PS4. As for price of SSDs: now that they are being put into laptops/netbooks the price will start to come down faster than they have in the past. With their lower power consumption (lighter/longer lasting batteries, better for the environment, no moving parts, smaller devices) there's plenty to commend SSDs to the general public and a number of features people would find attractive in a non-mobile device. Eventually SSD will replace HDD everywhere including PCs. Won't be long before there isn't a laptop/netbook on the market with a HDD. If PS4 is going to use the replaceable memory thing like PS3 then it's going to find being the only device shipping with a 2.5" HDD start to become more expensive as production of the 2.5" drives start to tail off, same as it's uneconomic to ship PS3's with 80Gig HDDs now compared to 160Gig HDDs.
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| binary solo said: Integrated Android is already in devices without a touchscreen. Stationary/mobile isn't really an issue, but if Chrome OS is meant for the PC then I agree it's more likely to be Chrome (I didn't know there was a Chrome OS, so putting it in PS4 will mean better mass market awareness) |
I don't see why it should use Chrome either. Both Android and Chrome are Linux-based operating systems, so simply allowing OtherOS would allow for both. If someone actually wants Android, he could install it on his PS4. If someone really wants Chrome, he could install it on his PS4. If someone really wants Linux Distribution XY, he can install it.
OtherOS support means the best flexibility, yet hardly anyone even cared for OtherOS when the PS3 had it.
| binary solo said: From a HDD perspective PS3/4 is a mobile device, because it uses laptop HDDs not PC HDDs, so wither goes the laptop, so goes the PS4. As for price of SSDs: now that they are being put into laptops/netbooks the price will start to come down faster than they have in the past. With their lower power consumption (lighter/longer lasting batteries, better for the environment, no moving parts, smaller devices) there's plenty to commend SSDs to the general public and a number of features people would find attractive in a non-mobile device. Eventually SSD will replace HDD everywhere including PCs. Won't be long before there isn't a laptop/netbook on the market with a HDD. If PS4 is going to use the replaceable memory thing like PS3 then it's going to find being the only device shipping with a 2.5" HDD start to become more expensive as production of the 2.5" drives start to tail off, same as it's uneconomic to ship PS3's with 80Gig HDDs now compared to 160Gig HDDs. |
Just because the PS3 uses a smaller 2,5" drive does not make the PS3 a mobile device. The two main advantages of SSDs for mobile devices are very low power consumption and no moving parts that could be destroyed when the device is being moved while switched on.
Neither of these advantages is relevant for a stationary console. Sony will simply include a 2,5" SATA drive bay like the PS3 has. Then they will simply sell the PS4 with various harddisc configurations - just like we already know it from the PS3. And maybe there will be one expensive "luxury configuration" that has a SSD instead of a traditional HDD built in. But that's definitely not going to be the default.
Its possible it could come with an SSD and the option for an additional HDD port, for people to use their old PS3 HDDs with, and in doing so installing the OS on the SSD drive. and the possibility of running both simitaneously.
i expect they will also improve the Cell architecture to a point which will do 3D, HD, etc a lot better than now. and also come with some type of ultra-fast blu ray drive.
but i hope the main thing they do is give it A LOT of memory. graphically the PS3 is fine, but RAM wise it could use a lot more. its the consoles achilies heel imho.
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