People should be on more of a "protect our consumer rights" approach.

If I do not really own the PS3 to the point where I could do what I want then I want my $600 back. I went into a store and BOUGHT the PS3. I did not lease it. I am not renting it. It is not loaned to me by SONY.

I bought it. I OWN it. I can put whatever I want into it and take whatever I want out of it.

If I am pirating  games and breaking the law, go ahead and try and get me there. Don't try to get me because I got it to do things it couldn't before. 

Also, a case like this may one day down the road cause things like your car to only be able to be fixed with specific brand parts and anything else could result in a fine.

Or anything along those lines. 

Nobody should be supporting SONY and their bullshit being brought about in this case.

Too bad, Geohot released the Keys. The keys are nothing but numbers. SONY can not own numbers.

Should you be able to run games you don't own on the PS3? Should you be able to run bots and hack games on PSN?

No sony can't own 'numbers', however sony does own the intellectual property that runs the PS3. You do not have the right to steal that intellectual property and distribute it to others. Geohot is nothing more than a glorified thief.

If your bank screwed up their private key in the way that Sony did which enabled hackers to access your account, you wouldn't blame the hackers you would blame your bank for their lax security. I don't understand why people rail against the hackers when the one who truly screwed up here is Sony. It is the same deal if you all bought a super advanced security system from Sony and someone figured out how to open the front door to your home with a special knock.

On to other news, people have the right to do whatever they want with their system. Sony has the right to secure the system in a way which limits what people can do with their hardware. Sony exercised their rights, other people exercised theirs. We don't live in a society where companies can tell you what you can and cannot do with your own property, that is up to the courts to decide if your actions impact on others in a criminal or civil way.

You know, I'm not really a Sony apologist or anything, but can't you acknowledge that the side effects of a broken system CAN impede other's rights to enjoying the system as it was designed?

I'm sorry, I just don't agree that buying something, gives you the right to do whatever you want to with it, regardless of others.  For example, you can't buy a stereo, and play it super-loud at all hours of the night (unless you don't have neighbors or do have neighbors who dont care)...  you can't buy a car and park on the sidewalk...I mean there are numerous examples of things you CANT do with products you own.

I'm just saying, it isn't that black and white.

I'm sorry, did Geohot pirate anything? What did he steal?

He has to steal something first before you call him a thief.

Is he an attention whore? Yes. 

Is he a thief? Absolutely not.

If not then you are of the party that thinks anything unrelated to PS3 and/or SONY should be punishable by law, which includes modding.

If so then happy future where you have no consumer rights because you will only bring it upon yourself.

Of course you blame the bank.

I would blame both, especially if the hackers dumped the mean to do the hack and the info they got. Which is what is going on here when any of the systems get hacked.

SONY is still culpible for having suck security, but so is MS and nintendo. 

SONY screwed up, the hackers are still assholes.

Your second paragraph is completely right. Also the fact that people do not have the right to distribute the methods of hacking said systems.

No, of course you blame the hackers because in this example the bank refuses to give you back money which was stolen because they are 'still in a civil and criminal suit against the hackers'.

He stole and distributed intellectual property imo.

Modding hardware per se is not necessarily an offense. Selling/buying the means to do so is illegal. Using the mod to use pirated software is illegal.

Id actually be happy with a completely open system run on open source software. Though that would also _require_ console software to switch over to the PC model where software often 'phones' home and uses authentication keys to validate their authenticity for network usage. And even then you get very shitty multiplayer experiences with bots and hacks all over the bloody place.

What im happy with and whats _legal_ are not necessarily the same thing. You can argue for your utopia all you want, doesn't make it especially legal.

You know full well I am not talking about thing like parking a car on a sidewalk. I mean if I buy a car and it breaks down I can use whatever parts I want regardless of manufacturer.

If SONY wins a ruling like this you could have it where if you own a Ford it will only work with Ford parts. This can happen simply because cars are becoming more and more computerized.

If SONY wins a ruling like this you could have it where you buy an HP PC and can only use HP parts or maybe have to read a list of "Approved Manufacturers". 

"Sweet! New NVidia card it, i'm getting it!"

Not according to HP your not. Install it and be lucky if it works. Then return it to the store minus the 15% restocking fee.

Like that new case for your PC? I do, let me put that on my PC.

Oh shit, HP doesn't like it. Time to pay the consequences.

So yeah, go ahead and think companies like SONY come before your consumer rights. I on the other hand will have none of it. 

I bought my PS3. I own my PS3. SONY does not own it. I can do what I want with what I own.

If not, then I should be getting them free of charge from SONY.

You may say I am going overboard with these examples or think they will never happen, but remember, there was a time when people said it would never be possible to get sued for protecting your own family against a thief who broke into your home.

Strange things happen, but it is people like us who allow shit to get that out of hand.