I don't agree on that, so no we don't all agree.  When Microsoft made that statement, I didn't agree.  A single hand controller?  Ok, but the 360 controller requires both hands and taking even one hand off to do something is awkward and counterintuitive.

What I want to see from Kinect is something that most of the hackers still don't get: NEW game experiences that are designed around this interface.  As they are currently, games won't work well with it.  Combat heavy games, first person shooters, controller interface designed games WILL NOT WORK.  It starts with what the interface CAN do and games need to be designed for THAT.  We are not game designers and that is why I see so many struggling with conceptualizing what to do with Kinect and thus think its going to be limited to only shovelware and minigames.

Game concepts that would be boring with a controller can be made interesting by Kinects interface.  Its more engaging, physically and emotionally.  The hope is some developer's creative juices are re-energized by it instead of looking for quick cash ins (we all know they are there and will be there, though).  

The most disappointing thing for me, though, is to see gamers so close minded to games growing beyond what we have now.  As a fan of Star Trek, the holodeck is the final evolution of what so many of us love as gamers and this is the next huge leap TOWARD that.  To keep insisting that this can't succeed without a controller is hold on to the past and stifle gaming evolution.  Kinect needs to push the controller free envelope so that we can reach the holodeck realization.

LivingMetal said:

Keeping an opened mind, some day we might experience that "Star Trek holodeck" gaming.  But also keeping and opened mind, not everyone will want to play a Mario platformer by literally running and jumping.  Some people actually prefer to RELAX on a couch and press button.  For me this especially happens after running five miles.  The closest thing I can realistically compare to a "Star Trek holodeck" gaming experience is something such as Lazer Tag.  But guess what?  You need something called a "gun" and a lot of space.  Hmmm...  The Kinect tech is good tech.  When the "Star Trek holodeck" gaming experience can be realized, it will have to employ good tech as well.  And keeping an opened mind keeps me seeing reality.  There are great applications to Kinect alone, and I can see great applications to the "Star Trek holodeck" experience as well by itself.  And both can be enhanced with a little help such as a physical "controller" to cater and expand to other preferences and experiences.  Keeping and opened mind that is.

I see underlined and realize that you're just not able to see beyond gaming as it is today.  Playstation Move is for you, then.  Kinect isn't.  That's that.

Are you implying that those who still prefer to sit down and relax with a controller is closed minded?  Or is it being closed minded to not accept ones different preferences that is of NO detriment to others?

um pot kettle black, you said you "need a gun" well if that is the case you aren't listening to Darth Tigris point of view.

This is the second time you've attempted to use the vain "pot kettle black" label.  And I've told you before that I'm of Chinese/Peruvian decent so I'm not "black." 

And oh, I'm listening to Darth.  But just because I do not agree with his and your common point of view doesn't mean you guys are correct.  Of course that also doesn't mean that I'm correct, but I'm not going to resort to personal attacks when I cannot logically and maturely discuss my point of view because I have respect for others.  Truth.

who is using personal attacks?

The saying "the pot telling the kettle it is black" is a very common saying.  Which implies you are being a bit hypocritical.  You are telling these guys they need to have an open mind, while you yourself are not being very open minded.  Don't see a personal attack there at all.  

Darth first said "...to see gamers so close minded."  So he threw the first stone by calling gamers who do not agree with his POV "close minded."  Then I was demonstrating how keeping an opened mind can also least to a different valid, logical, and reasonable POV.  Nothing hypocritical about that.  All I was doing was showing the other side of the coin.  Then Aussie here accussed me of being hypocritical (name calling) when it certainly wasn't the case just because I was valid in my opposing assessment while respecting others.