I'm just curious, what would your response be if his post was simply:

funny thread...at least we now know who are turning a blind eye on reality and refusing to accept that these hacks are harmfull to the industry and is the root of all PIRACY

I absolutely agree that this won't be the death of Sony and the people who made the hacks can scream they don't support piracy until they're blue in the face but it's undeniable that piracy is a direct result of these hacks.

The thing is, they're not denying that piracy is a result, in their presentation, fail0verflow listed piracy as a side effect of the homebrew scene in all platforms, they don't support it, but they're not blind.

Now, i don't think the hacks are simply harmful to the industry, i think that depends on the use of this hacks, just like alcohol (if used well it has benefits, if used wrong it can cause chaos)... I used console hacks before, and it gave me the opportunity to play imports that never came here, and backup my discs so they lasted longer... With the PSP, it did wonders to me being able to dump my UMDs in flash memory, more battery life, less noise and better load times are a great given (god i hate UMDs)... And with the PS3 i expect my Linux back and if they can do a better video player and better web browser, then great... Of course i know that while i was doing this, others were using those hacks to play games illegally, but in the end every system gets hacked and the decision to do piracy is in no one but ourselves...

The thing is, they're not denying that piracy is a result, in their presentation, fail0verflow listed piracy as a side effect of the homebrew scene in all platforms, they don't support it, but they're not blind.

Now, i don't think the hacks are simply harmful to the industry, i think that depends on the use of this hacks, just like alcohol (if used well it has benefits, if used wrong it can cause chaos)... I used console hacks before, and it gave me the opportunity to play imports that never came here, and backup my discs so they lasted longer... With the PSP, it did wonders to me being able to dump my UMDs in flash memory, more battery life, less noise and better load times are a great given (god i hate UMDs)... And with the PS3 i expect my Linux back and if they can do a better video player and better web browser, then great... Of course i know that while i was doing this, others were using those hacks to play games illegally, but in the end every system gets hacked and the decision to do piracy is in no one but ourselves...

IF failOverflow knew that pircay was a side effect of what they were doing then they are wrong point blank. comparing alchol to pirating isnt a good comparison. because the more people that pirate the more damaging it is to sony, but if a lot of people drink its not as bad because they still have a choice of moderation and they didnt steal their product. Sure this wont kill sony but its still sad that developers that work hard get their games stolen and might just have to deal with it. Sorry i hate thieves lol.

IF failOverflow knew that pircay was a side effect of what they were doing then they are wrong point blank. comparing alchol to pirating isnt a good comparison. because the more people that pirate the more damaging it is to sony, but if a lot of people drink its not as bad because they still have a choice of moderation and they didnt steal their product. Sure this wont kill sony but its still sad that developers that work hard get their games stolen and might just have to deal with it. Sorry i hate thieves lol.

No he isn't. Far from it. Dear god, might as well ban the internet because it allows piracy, oh wait it didn't as there was piracy before then, it just gave it another medium to do so. Seriously you people need to grow up and smell the roses that just because you can do things that you weren't able to do before hand doesn't mean that it should be stopped because everyone who uses it isn't going to use it to make candy for the good little boys and girls. If you can't stand the fact there is two sides to every coin you might as well disconnect your internet, put yourself into a bubble, and "protect" yourself from the truth that even if smells nice, it has thorns.

What? If what you do opens the doorway to something illegal why do it plain and simple. LOL grow up? im not the one sitting in a dimly lit room hacking peoples consoles and then asking the console maufacturers for a job a week later. Also your analogy at the end wasnt really required.

The point is courts themselves have ruled such activity legit but not matter what the will always be people who will use something to further more darker ends, piracy exploded when the internet took off they knew it was a possible side effect but do you see companies taking ISPs to court in the same fashion as this? No, why? Because the internet itself is not the sole cause of piracy it's just a medium pirates decide to employ to further their own ends, you can't blame the medium which is why many cases have fallen apart, that's the point both of them are trying to put through, it's not as black and white as people think.