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Mordred11 said:
ethomaz said:
NotStan said:
Mordred11 said:

Lol @ Sony being so wrong.They should visit VGChartz for the real numbers ,no ideea from where they're getting this data,probably out from their ass.

Everyone knows VGChartz can't make a mistake...

*sarcasm turned of*


I don't get how the post helps the topic in any way, I don't think there was a post where someone called out on Sony's report as BS in the posts before yours, au contraire people said that PS3 is likely overtracked by VGC, seeing as the numbers on VGC appear to be bigger than the ones reported, so it would be common sense as they're both sold through number that VGC overtracked. I'd understand your post if Sony said they sold 1M, VGC had it at 900k and people were proclaiming that 1M was shipped and not sold through..

Your post =/= sense, or I missed something before.

Sarcasm ;).

And to think he bothered writing such a detailed post..shame.But yes,I admit,I made no contribution to the thread xD.

Nah that was rushed. You should see the stuff I can come up with if I have somewhere in a time frame of 5 minutes x)



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Noobie said:
landguy1 said:

Having Sony tell us they probably SHIPPED(no way to know otherwise) 800K in France is news?  The bigger laugher is that they are probably using shipped for their 800k and sold for the "half number of the 360.  Sony is well known for their spinning of the sales numbers to hide a failure or to make a success seem bigger than it is.

for single country Sony can know the numbers just like Sony knows their Sold to Customer in America through NPD. i think France is also covered by GfK .?? isnt it? so i m sure Sony getting the numbers by being the premium subscriber.. 

That's exactly my point.  Sony knows the number is shipped, that's probably why they didn't say.  Just like they say the 360 is half, half of which number of which number?  They can be 100% accurate in the numbers, but still compare totally different numbers to make their point...  Microsoft does this too, but they seem to be more upfront about it...



landguy1 said:
Noobie said:
landguy1 said:

Having Sony tell us they probably SHIPPED(no way to know otherwise) 800K in France is news?  The bigger laugher is that they are probably using shipped for their 800k and sold for the "half number of the 360.  Sony is well known for their spinning of the sales numbers to hide a failure or to make a success seem bigger than it is.

for single country Sony can know the numbers just like Sony knows their Sold to Customer in America through NPD. i think France is also covered by GfK .?? isnt it? so i m sure Sony getting the numbers by being the premium subscriber.. 

That's exactly my point.  Sony knows the number is shipped, that's probably why they didn't say.  Just like they say the 360 is half, half of which number of which number?  They can be 100% accurate in the numbers, but still compare totally different numbers to make their point...  Microsoft does this too, but they seem to be more upfront about it...

How are they more "upfront" about it?  I don't know when Sony has tried hiding that they are using shipped numbers, and I've actually heard several times now it is GFK sold numbers in this case.



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ethomaz said:

People here will be surprise with shipments numbers... eg. PS3 over 8 million shipped.



With the ungodly amount of Ps3's stuffed into the retail channel these days.  I would not be surprised.  I predict that Sony is going to take a huge hit on the next quarterly earnings report.  This one will look pretty amazing though, because they stuffed the channel really deep.  PS3 Supply in the channel right now is over 100 days in some areas and no one is saying anything.  



gregersonke said:
ethomaz said:

People here will be surprise with shipments numbers... eg. PS3 over 8 million shipped.



With the ungodly amount of Ps3's stuffed into the retail channel these days.  I would not be surprised.  I predict that Sony is going to take a huge hit on the next quarterly earnings report.  This one will look pretty amazing though, because they stuffed the channel really deep.  PS3 Supply in the channel right now is over 100 days in some areas and no one is saying anything.  

Where is it you are getting these numbers?  It's also funny how people always say this, yet stores continue ordering PS3's.



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Baalzamon said:
landguy1 said:
Noobie said:
landguy1 said:

Having Sony tell us they probably SHIPPED(no way to know otherwise) 800K in France is news?  The bigger laugher is that they are probably using shipped for their 800k and sold for the "half number of the 360.  Sony is well known for their spinning of the sales numbers to hide a failure or to make a success seem bigger than it is.

for single country Sony can know the numbers just like Sony knows their Sold to Customer in America through NPD. i think France is also covered by GfK .?? isnt it? so i m sure Sony getting the numbers by being the premium subscriber.. 

That's exactly my point.  Sony knows the number is shipped, that's probably why they didn't say.  Just like they say the 360 is half, half of which number of which number?  They can be 100% accurate in the numbers, but still compare totally different numbers to make their point...  Microsoft does this too, but they seem to be more upfront about it...

How are they more "upfront" about it?  I don't know when Sony has tried hiding that they are using shipped numbers, and I've actually heard several times now it is GFK sold numbers in this case.

You could be right  as far as these being sold #'s, but with Sony usually quoting shipped its hard to know one way or another.  As far as the past goes, my memory is that they make a statement like this one that is vague on the specifics, but makes the point that the general media will report for them.  And then later when their official quarterly or year end numbers come out, we find out that they(Sony) didn't actually lie, they just represented the #'s from their point of view.  Microsoft at least clears the air via twitter or whatever fairly quickly, not 1-2 months later....



gregersonke said:
ethomaz said:

People here will be surprise with shipments numbers... eg. PS3 over 8 million shipped.



With the ungodly amount of Ps3's stuffed into the retail channel these days.  I would not be surprised.  I predict that Sony is going to take a huge hit on the next quarterly earnings report.  This one will look pretty amazing though, because they stuffed the channel really deep.  PS3 Supply in the channel right now is over 100 days in some areas and no one is saying anything.  


ROFL!!! teh overshipped again!! AHAHAAHAH!



XxXProphecyXxX said:
gregersonke said:
ethomaz said:

People here will be surprise with shipments numbers... eg. PS3 over 8 million shipped.



With the ungodly amount of Ps3's stuffed into the retail channel these days.  I would not be surprised.  I predict that Sony is going to take a huge hit on the next quarterly earnings report.  This one will look pretty amazing though, because they stuffed the channel really deep.  PS3 Supply in the channel right now is over 100 days in some areas and no one is saying anything.  


ROFL!!! teh overshipped again!! AHAHAAHAH!


Yep.  We should just have a "teh ovashippzz" and "stuffing teh channelzz" thread for every quarter.  It seems to be a common thing since the slim was released.

 

We all know they are being stuffed in underground bunkers underneath SonyStyle stores.



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FinalEvangelion said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
gregersonke said:
ethomaz said:

People here will be surprise with shipments numbers... eg. PS3 over 8 million shipped.



With the ungodly amount of Ps3's stuffed into the retail channel these days.  I would not be surprised.  I predict that Sony is going to take a huge hit on the next quarterly earnings report.  This one will look pretty amazing though, because they stuffed the channel really deep.  PS3 Supply in the channel right now is over 100 days in some areas and no one is saying anything.  


ROFL!!! teh overshipped again!! AHAHAAHAH!


Yep.  We should just have a "teh ovashippzz" and "stuffing teh channelzz" thread for every quarter.  It seems to be a common thing since the slim was released.

 

We all know they are being stuffed in underground bunkers underneath SonyStyle stores.

Not just that though, they are obviously forcing all the major stores around here to buy PS3 after PS3 despite being overstocked until their warehouse will consist solely of PS3's, in which case, Sony will force them to either A.) Build another warehouse for more PS3's, or B.) Begin taking generic items out of the store and have random piles of PS3's sitting all over the place.



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Baalzamon said:
FinalEvangelion said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
gregersonke said:
ethomaz said:

People here will be surprise with shipments numbers... eg. PS3 over 8 million shipped.



With the ungodly amount of Ps3's stuffed into the retail channel these days.  I would not be surprised.  I predict that Sony is going to take a huge hit on the next quarterly earnings report.  This one will look pretty amazing though, because they stuffed the channel really deep.  PS3 Supply in the channel right now is over 100 days in some areas and no one is saying anything.  


ROFL!!! teh overshipped again!! AHAHAAHAH!


Yep.  We should just have a "teh ovashippzz" and "stuffing teh channelzz" thread for every quarter.  It seems to be a common thing since the slim was released.

 

We all know they are being stuffed in underground bunkers underneath SonyStyle stores.

Not just that though, they are obviously forcing all the major stores around here to buy PS3 after PS3 despite being overstocked until their warehouse will consist solely of PS3's, in which case, Sony will force them to either A.) Build another warehouse for more PS3's, or B.) Begin taking generic items out of the store and have random piles of PS3's sitting all over the place.


Lets not forget that Sony lies on their financial statements as well.



"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."  --Hermann Goering, leading Nazi party member, at the Nuremberg War Crime Trials 

 

Conservatives:  Pushing for a small enough government to be a guest in your living room, or even better - your uterus.