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A203D said:
hikaruchan said:
geddesmond2 said:

SE gave me some great gaming experiances last generation and the generation before that when they were Squaresoft. However its been nearly 4 years now without a good experiance from SE and I've moved on. They messed up big time with FF13 and they messed up big time with there PS3 fanbase, some who've been with them for years. The only thing SE can do to redeem themselfs with the PS3 crowd  is release FF Verses 13 as an exclusive to the PS3 .  The PS3 has so many great exclusives now. Its not like 2008 when we needed exclusives so a game like FFV13 going multiplat after all SE's promises will just send people over to other franchises. I'll buy FFV13 if its exclusive but after how horrible FF13 was if FFV13 goes multiplat I'll just save 50 euros to spend on the next great exclusive going to the PS3.


Yes Square-Enix owe SONY FANBOY'S don't they don't make me laugh.  

I thought you wanted it to stay exclusive?? either way i think they do owe their fans who've supported their products, and now those fans are on the 360, so imo they should release on the 360 to support those fans old and new. so i think they do owe the 360 fans a multiplatform release. the PS3 has too many exclusives anyway, we dont really need this now anyway imo, 2 years ago yes, but not anymore.


That release was FFXIII. You know very well what Versus was promised to be.



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Mummelmann said:

Is there a single living sould remaining that will be surprised if this is announced as a multi platform title at this point?


Nope. SE headquarters better get a whole lot of security. Nomura thought he was in shock the last time he got angry fan response over Final Fantasy XIII Versus. If he confirms it I am saving the video feed and the news reports which come later. The only thing SE seem to be doing right in 2011 is coming out with DeusEX: Human Revolution



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mummelmann said:

Is there a single living sould remaining that will be surprised if this is announced as a multi platform title at this point?


Nope. SE headquarters better get a whole lot of security. Nomura thought he was in shock the last time he got angry fan response over Final Fantasy XIII Versus. If he confirms it I am saving the video feed and the news reports which come later. The only thing SE seem to be doing right in 2011 is coming out with DeusEX: Human Revolution


Threating people because of a not so good IP must be the most pathetic and most ridiculous things i have EVER heard in my life. If Wada wants this Multi-Platform, SO BE IT. Business is Business buddy.



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It will go multi-plat mark my words and they will annouce that everything they make from here forward will be simultaneous release on 360.



hikaruchan said:
geddesmond2 said:

SE gave me some great gaming experiances last generation and the generation before that when they were Squaresoft. However its been nearly 4 years now without a good experiance from SE and I've moved on. They messed up big time with FF13 and they messed up big time with there PS3 fanbase, some who've been with them for years. The only thing SE can do to redeem themselfs with the PS3 crowd  is release FF Verses 13 as an exclusive to the PS3 .  The PS3 has so many great exclusives now. Its not like 2008 when we needed exclusives so a game like FFV13 going multiplat after all SE's promises will just send people over to other franchises. I'll buy FFV13 if its exclusive but after how horrible FF13 was if FFV13 goes multiplat I'll just save 50 euros to spend on the next great exclusive going to the PS3.


Yes Square-Enix owe SONY FANBOY'S don't they don't make me laugh.  


Oh I'm sorry but where in that post did I say SE owed Sony Fans. Did you forget to put your reading glasses on? Are all those visits to Xvids dot com taking there tolls on your eyes? didn't mommy tell you ya can go blind from that shit?



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Christian973 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mummelmann said:

Is there a single living sould remaining that will be surprised if this is announced as a multi platform title at this point?


Nope. SE headquarters better get a whole lot of security. Nomura thought he was in shock the last time he got angry fan response over Final Fantasy XIII Versus. If he confirms it I am saving the video feed and the news reports which come later. The only thing SE seem to be doing right in 2011 is coming out with DeusEX: Human Revolution


Threating people because of a not so good IP must be the most pathetic and most ridiculous things i have EVER heard in my life. If Wada wants this Multi-Platform, SO BE IT. Business is Business buddy.

True. They should really stop making promises though.

Yakuza: Knock knock

Nomura: Who is there?

Yakuza: Yakuza

Nomura: Yak...

::Yakuza kicks down the door::

::Nomura has left the building::

 

Jk...I knew it was being ported... read this:

http://thesilentchief.com/2010/09/08/tetsuya-nomura-gets-specific-on-final-fantasy-versus-xiii-exclusive-status/

 

The PS3 Version is going to be the main version and the 360 version is the port.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mummelmann said:

Is there a single living sould remaining that will be surprised if this is announced as a multi platform title at this point?


Nope. SE headquarters better get a whole lot of security. Nomura thought he was in shock the last time he got angry fan response over Final Fantasy XIII Versus. If he confirms it I am saving the video feed and the news reports which come later. The only thing SE seem to be doing right in 2011 is coming out with DeusEX: Human Revolution

If the game goes multiplat nothing is going to happen. No need for any security anywhere.

Stop overhyping the games importance. Its just a video game. No-one is going kill anyone over this, and Nomura isn't going to leave Square over this since he would never abandon Kingdom Hearts. You only need to see comments on youtube videos to realise how stupid and uncivilized people act like online, its all talk mostly, I doubt 90% of the people that post on online forums ever sound this angry, whiny or harsh in  the real world. (I sure don't)



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Squilliam said:

Screw the fanboys, screw the PS3s 'power' neither are really that important anyway.


If you make a game that harnesses a consoles sole power, it can make a game a grander experience. The 360 needs a game that does this. The PS3 is already showing people what can be done with GOW 3, UC3, Infamous 2 and new team ICO project. The reason for this logic is to see what they can pull off the hardwares capabilities for a grand single player experience. Look at the grand difference in old Playstation games like Twisted Metal which get to make their first appearance on the PS3 again? This is going to be the biggest and most expansive Twisted Metal ever (Have you seen the videos?). I want to actually say that since this game is an action adventure title that it should at least do the same if only on promise alone. If someone makes an impressive and exclusive 360 IP  that harnesses its power (whenever that happenns) then let it be done. That would make the 360 even more appealing to me. Versus will sell extremely well on the PS3 alone. If they market it properly it will sell.

You're getting confused here, its understandable with all those silly people talking about the powah of teh Pee Ess Free. The developers have repeated time and again, time and again, got angry, stopped repeating that the consoles have effectively the same level of performance. Even if the weaknesses and strengths don't quite match you're coming up with 90% which is pretty damn near identical for all intents and purposes and that final 10% represents the borderline programming tweaks which most don't want to deal with, even as exclusive developers.

So now what makes the difference?

Funding.
Talent.
Funding.

Yes I wrote funding twice because these days you have very expensive games. So why do PS3 exclusives look better?

Sony focuses on graphics, gameplay is defined in many cases by what can be achieved visually. Sony also has been aquiring developers with an eye to what they can achieve artistically and finally Sony funds the hell out of their games. This however has nothing to do with a game like FFXIII - V because if you read a little above you'll find out why. The main thing here is that Sony funds their artists to produce great art, art is what wows you whenever you play a game, the PS3 is only the means to convey that art to you and let you experience more of what the artists desired to create for your enjoyment.

Microsoft focuses on gameplay, graphics is defined more by what gameplay allows. They have an incentive to do this because they have a big money spinner in Xbox Live so they want you to keep playing your games online. They even want you to be able to bring your friend online on the same console. Thats not to say that Microsoft are totally gameplay whores whilst Sony are dirty graphics whore game makers. They just don't have the focus on that one aspect.

Its not a given that when both go for visuals that they cannot produce similar results -> Forza 3 vs GT5 look close enough that without an under the hood look at both games resource allocation and tradeoffs I wouldn't call one as being ahead of the other by any worthwhile margin.





Tease.

Squilliam said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Squilliam said:

Screw the fanboys, screw the PS3s 'power' neither are really that important anyway.


If you make a game that harnesses a consoles sole power, it can make a game a grander experience. The 360 needs a game that does this. The PS3 is already showing people what can be done with GOW 3, UC3, Infamous 2 and new team ICO project. The reason for this logic is to see what they can pull off the hardwares capabilities for a grand single player experience. Look at the grand difference in old Playstation games like Twisted Metal which get to make their first appearance on the PS3 again? This is going to be the biggest and most expansive Twisted Metal ever (Have you seen the videos?). I want to actually say that since this game is an action adventure title that it should at least do the same if only on promise alone. If someone makes an impressive and exclusive 360 IP  that harnesses its power (whenever that happenns) then let it be done. That would make the 360 even more appealing to me. Versus will sell extremely well on the PS3 alone. If they market it properly it will sell.

You're getting confused here, its understandable with all those silly people talking about the powah of teh Pee Ess Free. The developers have repeated time and again, time and again, got angry, stopped repeating that the consoles have effectively the same level of performance. Even if the weaknesses and strengths don't quite match you're coming up with 90% which is pretty damn near identical for all intents and purposes and that final 10% represents the borderline programming tweaks which most don't want to deal with, even as exclusive developers.

So now what makes the difference?

Funding.
Talent.
Funding.

Yes I wrote funding twice because these days you have very expensive games. So why do PS3 exclusives look better?

Sony focuses on graphics, gameplay is defined in many cases by what can be achieved visually. Sony also has been aquiring developers with an eye to what they can achieve artistically and finally Sony funds the hell out of their games. This however has nothing to do with a game like FFXIII - V because if you read a little above you'll find out why. The main thing here is that Sony funds their artists to produce great art, art is what wows you whenever you play a game, the PS3 is only the means to convey that art to you and let you experience more of what the artists desired to create for your enjoyment.

Microsoft focuses on gameplay, graphics is defined more by what gameplay allows. They have an incentive to do this because they have a big money spinner in Xbox Live so they want you to keep playing your games online. They even want you to be able to bring your friend online on the same console. Thats not to say that Microsoft are totally gameplay whores whilst Sony are dirty graphics whore game makers. They just don't have the focus on that one aspect.

Its not a given that when both go for visuals that they cannot produce similar results -> Forza 3 vs GT5 look close enough that without an under the hood look at both games resource allocation and tradeoffs I wouldn't call one as being ahead of the other by any worthwhile margin.



Inbe4 an angry Sony posse eats you up.

 



Disconnect and self destruct, one bullet a time.

NotStan said:

Inbe4 an angry Sony posse eats you up.

 

Haha, thanks!



Tease.