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Forums - Sales - Media Create Sales: Week 52, 2010 (Dec 27 - Jan 2)

ethomaz on 06 January 2011

I predict GT5 tracking above GT4 week basis starting next week.



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jarrod on 06 January 2011
fwap said:

DS wins Famitsu. PSP wins Media Create.


DS also won Dengeki.  Tie-breaker, DS wins 2010! <3 <3



Immortal on 06 January 2011
jarrod said:
fwap said:

DS wins Famitsu. PSP wins Media Create.


DS also won Dengeki.  Tie-breaker, DS wins 2010! <3 <3


But VGC'll have PSP ahead, :O! 'tis a tie again...



 

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jarrod on 06 January 2011

Looking at the YTDs vs last year is enlightening... everyone's down YOY (DS massively, though expectedly so) except PSP, which is pretty substantially up!

I sort of wonder if PSP's resurgence might continue into 2011?  It could make the 3DS takeover more difficult than expected, and might encourage a lot more multiplatform R&D between PSP/3DS... though it also might make PSP2's launch a bit more difficult too if that happens.  



jarrod on 06 January 2011
pezus said:
Immortal said:
pezus said:

? Nintendo is a video games company only and Sony is much bigger so I doubt Nintendo would want to go into a price war since they depend on profiting.


Yeah, but did you see the link in my last post? Wiis were being produced for $88 in July '09, a year and a half ago. I'd guess they can sell 'em for less than $75 now. No matter how much Sony's willing to bleed, I don't think they can fight that.

Yeah, but didn't Nintendo report losses in Q3?

Due to currency fluctuations, which they held back from the entire year for that quarter.  And the bottom dropping out in Europe for DS software hasn't helped.



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jarrod on 06 January 2011

Also, some congratulations are in order... I just realized PSP Go is on it's 2nd shipment!  The little engine that could...



Boutros on 06 January 2011
Immortal said:
Mordred11 said:
Immortal said:
Mordred11 said:

Very nice PS3...It's dominance in 2011 has already started in Japan!


So losing out by 1k is dominance now, ;)?

Looks like PS3 will win weekly by quite a bit in 2011 (expect it to win next week), though, and still has a shot at yearly.

That all as long as DQX doesn't release this year. If it does, PS3'll be miles behind Wii.

It isn't dominance yet,I only said it started.

Being so close to the Wii in weekly numbers already is a good start.How much impact can DQX produce?Should help the Wii outsell the PS3 for about a month?And certainly by not enough amounts to compensate for the wins PS3 will have through the year,except holidays(though if it gets a price-cut near the holidays,that's questionable).And you are forgetting about the GT5 bundling and Final Fantasy Versus,which is hopefully releasing this year.Those 2 should widen the gap even more for 2011.Saying it will be ''miles'' behind the Wii is unreasonable.

You're underestimating DQ hugely. It is second only to Mario on home consoles in Japan. Remember the huge effects of NSMBW in holidays 2009? This'll do significantly more because the core DQ base clashes with the Wii base. I expect it to give Wii a few 150k weeks even if it releases during the summer. GT5 is pretty much worthless in Japan and, nowdays, FF (and not a main one, at that) is nothing compared to DQ in Japan. If DQX doesn't release, and nothing much else works for Wii, PS3'll be significantly ahead, but DQX will push Wii to over 2m next year if it releases, way ahead of whatever PS3'll be at.

DQX won't come out until the end of this year. Until then, the Wii won't sell very well and will be down compared to next year. The PS3 will come out on top for most weeks. The Holidays will have a much bigger impact on the Wii than DQX.



jarrod on 06 January 2011

Boutros said:

DQX won't come out until the end of this year. Until then, the Wii won't sell very well and will be down compared to next year. The PS3 will come out on top for most weeks. The Holidays will have a much bigger impact on the Wii than DQX.


I think it'll be a bit of both, like NSMBWii was.  You can see this year what Wii's holiday lift is like without a 3-4m selling title, it's been down quite a bit.  I also expect DQX to get the full MH3 treatment, so you can probably expect it to launch bundled with the 4th Wii color (probably Blue, possibly Platinum).

And honestly, it wouldn't surprise me at all if after DQVIII/IX, Horii and Hino decided to go a bit more traditional for DQX and play up on the nostalgia... so something more narrative, directed, solitary, offline.  Nostalgia seems to play especially well with the Wii base, and it's an easy approach marketing wise.  Just do like Mario.



jarrod on 06 January 2011

pezus said:

 Very well, I just don't see them being able to drop price by any amount of their choosing any time.

 

Unlike most, I actually don't think they'll drop the price in 2011 either, instead I see heavier bundling in it's future.  But that's not due to their costs, they could cut the Wii price in half ($99) and still make a return per unit.

Besides, Nintendo's going to majorly bank on 3DS in 2011.  Even if they wanted to take a loss on Wii and sell it for something absurd like $49, they could easily afford to.



jarrod on 06 January 2011
pezus said:
jarrod said:

pezus said:

 Very well, I just don't see them being able to drop price by any amount of their choosing any time.

 

Unlike most, I actually don't think they'll drop the price in 2011 either, instead I see heavier bundling in it's future.  But that's not due to their costs, they could cut the Wii price in half ($99) and still make a return per unit.

Besides, Nintendo's going to majorly bank on 3DS in 2011.  Even if they wanted to take a loss on Wii and sell it for something absurd like $49, they could easily afford to.

I doubt they could do it "easily". Selling a console (with a game/games) for the same price as a game? Bad idea imo

Easily.  They're likely not paying much more than $50 in BOMs at this point, and it's well under $100 total manufacturing and logistics per unit.  If Nintendo had the same sort of market strategy as Sony, Wii would probably be $99 now actually.