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Mr Puggsly said:
ssj12 said:

So what your saying is MS should say "F*ck all indie devs" because they don't need them even though they promise a ton of stuff with the XNA project?

When a developer purchases the XNA they have a contractual agreement with Microsoft that if they are chosen to be on XBLA they will get advertising and other benefits. Since many developers have had issues with this it proves that Microsoft can't even do business legally without actually having to get into fights with the developers over agreed benefits granted by Microsoft.

Right, they got what they were promised.


after fighting for it. if they just gave up they wouldn't have received any of what was promised, thats the point here.

Developers are having to fight for what is supposed to be given to them. Microsoft really has no right to say no due to their legal agreements with developers that get published to the market place. But, Microsoft seems to ignore that fact till these developers point out they are obligated to do so. Truthfully, when one of these developers get the cold shoulder from Microsoft to follow what they contractually agreed upon they could easily bring Microsoft to court and win. Microsoft is acting greedy and might eventually pay for it if they don't wise up and do what they are legally binded to do by the development contracts they are selling.



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ssj12 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
ssj12 said:

So what your saying is MS should say "F*ck all indie devs" because they don't need them even though they promise a ton of stuff with the XNA project?

When a developer purchases the XNA they have a contractual agreement with Microsoft that if they are chosen to be on XBLA they will get advertising and other benefits. Since many developers have had issues with this it proves that Microsoft can't even do business legally without actually having to get into fights with the developers over agreed benefits granted by Microsoft.

Right, they got what they were promised.


after fighting for it. if they just gave up they wouldn't have received any of what was promised, thats the point here.

Developers are having to fight for what is supposed to be given to them. Microsoft really has no right to say no due to their legal agreements with developers that get published to the market place. But, Microsoft seems to ignore that fact till these developers point out they are obligated to do so. Truthfully, when one of these developers get the cold shoulder from Microsoft to follow what they contractually agreed upon they could easily bring Microsoft to court and win. Microsoft is acting greedy and might eventually pay for it if they don't wise up and do what they are legally binded to do by the development contracts they are selling.

Seems MS complied and ultimately that's what matters. We don't really know how hard they fought. They just said it was a head ache and they would probably do it again for the money.

I don't think MS was acting greedy. I just don't think they gave a crap. Team Meat is a small company, no real importance to MS. Often developers get screwed over financially and that didn't happen here. It wasn't a worst case scenario for Team Meat.

Getting their marketing was a head ache and they got their money. The End.



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