Squilliam said:
No problem on the length, so long as the content is justifying it. Anyway im responding on IE because Firefox crashes too much and I dislike Google for percieved privacy infringement.
Anyway where we differ here is that I see the word 'exclusive' as only part of the story. What you are really looking for is 'exclusive value' or 'exclusive experiences' differentiating between different consoles. For instance Gears of War was the first real current generation blockbuster on the HD consoles, in 2006 that represented a real exclusive experience you couldn't find anywhere else. In 2008 when Gears of War 2 was released that exclusive value had diminished so at that point whether Gears of War was exclusive or not didn't matter so much because as game libraries develop the value of exclusives diminish because the extra value they offer which isn't matched on other consoles is diminished or removed completely.
Where this generation is different to other generations is that the exclusive experiences aren't limited to just the games. In the last generation all the consoles were pretty much the same and the only differentiation was really provided by the games themselves. In this generation you real differences in the systems themselves especially now that Kinect and Move are out. So without the games to differentiate the systems as much the systems still differentiate themselves by the actual physical interfaces, operating systems and online networks. There is no danger in having fewer exclusives because the systems have differentiated themselves to a greater degree than they have in the past couple of generations in spite of the fact that everything is multiplatform with fewer exceptions.
As for fanboys and general riff raff behaviour, well, you'll probably find that the closer peoples values are the more they tend to act out between each other because they feel they are in more direct competition. You'll probably find that the Move / Kinect fans will eventually ignore each other because the target market for the two interfaces are completely different. Had Move and Kinect been identical you'd have probably found that there would be more arguments and fighting because the systems were targeting the same customers and had similar values.
So do I think exclusives are worth it? Well not so much, however whenever a console can bring true exclusive value then thats a good thing. I don't think for instance that Microsoft buying Bioware and subsequently denying people the ability to play a fantastic game like Mass Effect would solve anything because it seriously wouldn't add that much value to the console, the money would be better spent on true improvements to Xbox or Xbox Live instead because that improves the experience of Xbox 360 owners without denying Sony/Nintendo console owners the benefit of future games from Bioware.
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Yeah for some reason ie9 beta sucks atm for me. :-/
Yeah exclusive is defintley part of the story but it used to be the main part, and that is the gen i started. Sega Mega Drive II vs Super Nintendo if I remember correctly.
Yeah I know what you mean by online, its my head is kinda still in the past. But you rightly point out that in the obvious case of Kinect vs Move. In fact where I work people are wanting to buy Xbox because of Foxtel... Foxtel, its crazy. When I was younger and anybody would want the sega becasue of any purpose but games is incredible.
This Generation is really changing everyones thoughts on what games consoles should be.
The differentiation of the fighting between consoles is part of the reason why I think MS needs more exclusives. Kinect and Move are just more exclusives. XBL vs PSN are exclusives in their own right imo, they both feature heavily in the importance of the console.
Yes it would have sucked for Playstation not to get it Mass Effect but the same argument can be used for most other games. Exclusives are quite like that, they are exclusives. Mass Effect would have added a lot more if it wasnt on ps3 but it sold decently on PC/ was burned a lot on the PC. That is the thing that kind of thing that doesnt really work in the argument. Mass Effect COULD have been a console seller but wasnt for that reason.
Again just my thoughts on the matter.