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Can The Last Story usurp Final Fantasy as the best selling console JRPG?

Yes 65 27.31%
 
No 173 72.69%
 
Total:238
Christian973 said:
A203D said:

Do we have pre order numbers for Japan, the game goes on sale in about a month, and i think those would be a good indicator of what we can expect.


Check best sellers in Amazon Japan for Pre-orders.

Its not in the top 50



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Hell no. Only if pigs fly and when hell frzzes over. Final fantasy is the most famous rpg series in gaming and even if people think it's mediocore it will still sell more than better rpg's.Just because you think last story would be a better game does not mean it will sell like 10 million plus units. I think it will be lucky to sell 2 million.



Rob-Ot said:
psrock said:
Rob-Ot said:
psrock said:
Boutros said:
psrock said:

So, it seems a lot of people are expecting over 1 million for the Last Story. I hope it does it. And a couple people think it might pass the 1.8 million ffxiii numbers. I had no idea this thingg was so big.

That's because it really isn't...

It reminds be a bit of Killzone 2.


At best it looks like a Final Fantasy knock off, from the name, to the posters, the music, it's a Final Fantasy game.

It will be better than any Final Fantasy since IX because It should at the least be good, not mediocre.


Because of what ?

Hironobu Sakaguchi was responsible mainly for the gem FF games, FFIV-FFIX. He is behind The Last Story and his design philosophy is similar to when he made FFI and FFVII. If you saw all the Iwata Ask episodes you'll see the way the game was developed and how much promise it has.

My confidence towards this game's success (possibly) in the West is that it has a real-time action combat system that vaguely reminds me of Gears (to a point, anyway), and the graphical style is one that the West should be more receptive to than say, a Tales game or something like Blue Dragon or Star Ocean



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Mr Khan said:
Rob-Ot said:
psrock said:
Rob-Ot said:
psrock said:
Boutros said:
psrock said:

So, it seems a lot of people are expecting over 1 million for the Last Story. I hope it does it. And a couple people think it might pass the 1.8 million ffxiii numbers. I had no idea this thingg was so big.

That's because it really isn't...

It reminds be a bit of Killzone 2.


At best it looks like a Final Fantasy knock off, from the name, to the posters, the music, it's a Final Fantasy game.

It will be better than any Final Fantasy since IX because It should at the least be good, not mediocre.


Because of what ?

Hironobu Sakaguchi was responsible mainly for the gem FF games, FFIV-FFIX. He is behind The Last Story and his design philosophy is similar to when he made FFI and FFVII. If you saw all the Iwata Ask episodes you'll see the way the game was developed and how much promise it has.

My confidence towards this game's success (possibly) in the West is that it has a real-time action combat system that vaguely reminds me of Gears (to a point, anyway), and the graphical style is one that the West should be more receptive to than say, a Tales game or something like Blue Dragon or Star Ocean

O.O



Mr Khan said:
Rob-Ot said:
psrock said:
Rob-Ot said:
psrock said:
Boutros said:
psrock said:

So, it seems a lot of people are expecting over 1 million for the Last Story. I hope it does it. And a couple people think it might pass the 1.8 million ffxiii numbers. I had no idea this thingg was so big.

That's because it really isn't...

It reminds be a bit of Killzone 2.


At best it looks like a Final Fantasy knock off, from the name, to the posters, the music, it's a Final Fantasy game.

It will be better than any Final Fantasy since IX because It should at the least be good, not mediocre.


Because of what ?

Hironobu Sakaguchi was responsible mainly for the gem FF games, FFIV-FFIX. He is behind The Last Story and his design philosophy is similar to when he made FFI and FFVII. If you saw all the Iwata Ask episodes you'll see the way the game was developed and how much promise it has.

My confidence towards this game's success (possibly) in the West is that it has a real-time action combat system that vaguely reminds me of Gears (to a point, anyway), and the graphical style is one that the West should be more receptive to than say, a Tales game or something like Blue Dragon or Star Ocean

Yeah thats a positive. The combat system looks fresh, modern and new. The art style is good too, something that can be mass marketed.



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Boutros said:
Mr Khan said:
Rob-Ot said:
psrock said:
Rob-Ot said:
psrock said:
Boutros said:
psrock said:

So, it seems a lot of people are expecting over 1 million for the Last Story. I hope it does it. And a couple people think it might pass the 1.8 million ffxiii numbers. I had no idea this thingg was so big.

That's because it really isn't...

It reminds be a bit of Killzone 2.


At best it looks like a Final Fantasy knock off, from the name, to the posters, the music, it's a Final Fantasy game.

It will be better than any Final Fantasy since IX because It should at the least be good, not mediocre.


Because of what ?

Hironobu Sakaguchi was responsible mainly for the gem FF games, FFIV-FFIX. He is behind The Last Story and his design philosophy is similar to when he made FFI and FFVII. If you saw all the Iwata Ask episodes you'll see the way the game was developed and how much promise it has.

My confidence towards this game's success (possibly) in the West is that it has a real-time action combat system that vaguely reminds me of Gears (to a point, anyway), and the graphical style is one that the West should be more receptive to than say, a Tales game or something like Blue Dragon or Star Ocean

O.O

If you look at shots of it, its a kinda tactical, sorta squad-based, real-time combat with the way the camera works, it looks closer to a medieval Gears or Resident Evil Mercenaries, or even an Assassin's Creed, than your stereotypical JRPG



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Khuutra said:

What the Hell? No! NO! Everyone ignore this topic! If I hear even one of you gloating when this game doens't manage this, even one of you pretneding that this is the normal expectation of "Nintendo fans", I will kill you with my mind!

You're right. And I'm sure all those who voted "Yes" are PS360 FF fans who want to be able to come back and gloat, by claiming that "most" Ninty fans thought the Last story would shit all over FF; whereas it will barely raise a fart in the direction of the Tales series. OK it might schmear a few skid marks on Tales on it's way past their individual format sales, but it probably won't beat the combined PS360 / PSWii sales of the Tales games.

But with the Wii install base anything's possible.



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huaxiong90 said:
binary solo said:

Yes, because JRPGs are selling incredibly well on Wii in Europe.

There's basically no JRPG audience on Wii in Europe. Then again there's no JRPG audience in Europe on any console except for Final Fantasy.

Lost Odyssey didn't do too bad in Europe.

Didn't do bad, doesn't give much confidence.



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VivaLaWiida said:
binary solo said:

Yes, because JRPGs are selling incredibly well on Wii in Europe.

There's basically no JRPG audience on Wii in Europe. Then again there's no JRPG audience in Europe on any console except for Final Fantasy.


Dragon Quest IX says hi

This is a TLS vs FF thread. Clearly that's the context in which the JRPG audience is being considered. Handhelds are a different story.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

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MrT-Tar said:
binary solo said:

Yes, because JRPGs are selling incredibly well on Wii in Europe.

There's basically no JRPG audience on Wii in Europe. Then again there's no JRPG audience in Europe on any console except for Final Fantasy.


Yeah because pokemon totally flopped here in Europe.

Pokemon Wii relative to Pokemon DS was a flop (please read my original post with some care). And given we're comparing to FF games 340K for a main numbered FF title in EMEAA would be an absolute flop of megaton proportions. So if you're suggesting 340K for one of the biggest JRPG franchises of all time (perhaps THE biggest) is an indicator of FFXIII beating sales potential for The Last Story in EMEAA then you are gravely mistaken.

Fact: Sales history of JRPGs on Wii in EMEAA territories suggests The Last Story has little chance of unseating the FF franchise as biggest JRPG on home consoles this generation.

Personally, as a potential franchise, I think if it can get to 500K in EMEAA it means there's potential for it to see significant growth in subsequent entries. But this first game won't be a FF killer, except as a remote chance in Japan. Even in Japan JRPG in Wii doesn't instill a great deal of confidence in the FF killing sales potential for TLS. It'll need to almost double the sales of Monster Hunter Tri to kill FFXIII. Do people expect it to kick MH Tri's arse to that extent? I'm thinking it won't get past MH Tri in Japan, let alone come close to FFXIII.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix