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I'm for legalizing pot, but not because I personally smoke it. Its because:

A) All the tax money the government could make off of selling it legally

B) The money the government (aka taxpayer) would save by not needing as many drug cops or for keeping people in jail that were caught with pot

C) It would be safer and more regulated if legalized



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As long as it's taxed heavily like cigarettes, I'm cool with it.



Oh the good old Marijuana topic.

I love weed. That's all I can say.

It's the one of the healthiest herbs on this planet, anyone who says otherwise is ignorant and illinformed. There's nothing wrong with smoking weed, why was it created the way it was? It grows that way, you can smoke it that way. It's a creation from the earth itself, which means we can take full advantage of it. Hell, you can hardly classify it as a drug, since drugs are usually cooked or something a long those lines.

If you a put all the country leaders in a room, and they all got completely stoned, I can gaurentee there would be peace within all countries. No more wars.

Go talk to a doctor, they wouldn't recommend smoking it, because smoking anything isn't good for you. But, with the magical marijuana, it can be done in many ways without any harm on your body, and that's a fact. Plus, if you didn't already know, they've done tests with it on cancer patients, and the THC in the marijuana killed cancerous brain cells, and left normal brain cells untouched.

I mean, why wouldn't anyone NOT want to smoke weed? People stressing over shit all the time need to stop during the day and take a hit of this magic. It's naturally created for us.

And that is all, enjoy my wall of text, Peace. :)

By the way, I'm high :)



Smashed said:

Oh the good old Marijuana topic.

I love weed. That's all I can say.

It's the one of the healthiest herbs on this planet, anyone who says otherwise is ignorant and illinformed. There's nothing wrong with smoking weed, why was it created the way it was? It grows that way, you can smoke it that way. It's a creation from the earth itself, which means we can take full advantage of it. Hell, you can hardly classify it as a drug, since drugs are usually cooked or something a long those lines.

If you a put all the country leaders in a room, and they all got completely stoned, I can gaurentee there would be peace within all countries. No more wars.

Go talk to a doctor, they wouldn't recommend smoking it, because smoking anything isn't good for you. But, with the magical marijuana, it can be done in many ways without any harm on your body, and that's a fact. Plus, if you didn't already know, they've done tests with it on cancer patients, and the THC in the marijuana killed cancerous brain cells, and left normal brain cells untouched.

I mean, why wouldn't anyone NOT want to smoke weed? People stressing over shit all the time need to stop during the day and take a hit of this magic. It's naturally created for us.

And that is all, enjoy my wall of text, Peace. :)

By the way, I'm high :)

Ah the "It's natural so it must be ok for you" arguement.

You know what else is natural?  Mandrake... or dozens of other poisons.

With all the good arguements, god knows why people resort to such dumb ones.

Even if said people are high.


As a side note... if you need to smoke Marijuana every day because your stressing out, there is a good chance your psychological addiction to Marijuana is your primary stressor.

Not unlike Cigarette smokers who get all stressed if they have go got a day without smoking.  Really you should treat Marijuana more as a recreational thing like drinking, hold it to the weekends.



Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:

You should see the lies they said about marijuana in anti-drug classes over here.


You should tell us.  It would be fun. 

As for the legalization of Marijuana... good.

I've seen people ruin their lives thanks Marijuana,(believe it or not, it does happen.) but it's exactly that.... their lives.

Ok who and it seems these same people have bad example's as adults and I bet that marijuana is the least of the drugs they use. MY buddy is a software engineer and the whole company turns a blind eye to the majority that smoke in the company. Now lets talk about alchohol. I bet it's not pot ruining there life it's there moral and belief structer. Movers all smoke and they are some of the most motivated people I know.

All the drinkers in my family are losers, abusive, lazy, lyers and the smokers have great jobs and are successful. So in my family it seems that if you smoke when you get off work it's not a shameful thing and is actually more accepted as the right drug of choice in my family.

Now givin I had to quit for my job but thats what starts the problems is the companies hand it to you for smoking it up. Funny thing is the harsh drugs come out of your system with in three days. So those people on the junk can get away with it when the honest hard workers that don't want to get drunk can't even relaxe with doing the safest drug known to man.  advil hurts you more then grass.

Thats why THC stays in your body so long is because your body doesn't see it as a poisen and uses it. No other drug that I know of is like that.

So is it personality or is it pot? I know the answer, do you?



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Yes we should legalize and TAX the shit out of it.

Pot smokers dont deserve to go to jail, but since they have less of a positive influence on society we counter balance this with taking all their damn money.

Not sure where your getting this from.  In college, a lot of the smartest people I knew smoked pot.  It seemed very popular among physicists.  I think it was because theoretical physics require quite a bit of imagination to figure things out.  It's quite mind-bending to try and understand some of the complex theories in physics.

Weed doesn't actually make you think any deeper or imaginitive, it just makes you think dumb ideas are smart... try having a philosphy major have a conversation with a bunch of stoners and you'll see what i mean.

Go home and burn half your music, and while you're at it destroy half your games, cause the people that created that shit were probably real fucking high on drugs.

Which has to do with what?  Most music, including "good" music is actually pretty dumb from a pure lyrics department.  I mean, the Killers... how much drugs do you think they do?  Doesn't really change the beat.

Music by design is supposed to be "stupid".  If it's literal, it doesn't lend well because you are disctracted by the lyrics.

And most games... well actually most games if anything don't have stupid ideas anymore... I much perfered it when they did because that meant more time was spent on gameplay.

Was Miyamoto high when he came up with SMB?  Probably, the idea isn't want makes SMB what it is though.  It's the gameplay.

 

The Killers?  Seriously?  Okay.

You made a comment about drugs making people imaginative, and then go to talk about "stupid" ideas, and music and games having "stupid" ideas.  I'm starting to wonder if you're high.

My comment had nothing to do with people acting stupid when they're high.  My comment was about positive and creative ideas stemming while people are high, which has happened for centuries, no matter what the drug is.

Drugs can cause a positive influence on society.

And, Miyamoto.  Come on, he created the gameplay.

I bet he wasn't high at work while he was doing it.  ANYTHING can cause a positive influence on society, including murder.  The question was  the chances  vs positive vs negative influence.

Wow.

Comparing murder to marijuana is a pretty big step.

Does marijuana cause people to act slow, stupid, and lazy?  Yes, everybody knows that, but so does television.

I do agree with you on one point, that it is the person's right to choose.  I just think you're overlooking the positive outcomes that marijuana has had on this society.  And, I'm not talking about the KIllers.

Weed doesn't create talent, but it helps some people present it.  It helps imaginations run wild and brings out the deepest in some people, thus it makes them more imaginative.

That's all my argument is. I'm also not talking about stupid stoner philosophy students that come up with a basic idea and think it's genius because they go, "Whoa, man..."

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Bolded I agree with.  TV as well has more negatives then positives.  Though I do like me some TV.  You don't think the world would be a better place if less people watched TV?  Most things people want to do are at a net negative. 

Italicized I do not.

Marijuna brings out creativity in the same way cigarettes relax people and alchohol makes people more social.

Most of it is a placebo effect, and the rest is the fact that you've gotten so addicted to the product that you have problems without it purely BECAUSE of your addiction.


SO why not legalize it and take the power from the powerful brutal mexican mafia. What about cancer and people that can't eat. Relaxing stressed muscle's, helping sleeping desorder. I can go on and on about the positive side that doesn't include horrible side effects such as sleeping pills and others that can help you sleep but swell up your tongue and kill you in your sleep.

just watch tv, look at all the side effects from the drugs that marijuana can cure. you are really demonizing pot here.

Same people that will take tylenol with no problem, when it eats away your stomach and can cause damage to your liver and kidneys. But hey lets go after the potheads.

this was never about pot being bad but about hemp selling and taking over paper. lOOk it up.



It will remain illegal. Big pharmas will ensure it.



Smithy RPG said:

I'm gonna go out of the usual crowd here and say this is terrible news. It really should stay illegal. Sure, it's not as bad as alcohol, but that doesn't make it right to just add more harmful stuff to life. I mean, the cons outweigh the pros. There will be more car crashes if it's legal. This is a fact because when people are high, their focus is obviously a lot worse, and thus will lead to more crashes. And even if it's illegal to smoke and drive, just like Drinking and Driving, people will still do it. How does this help my argument you may ask? People will smove and drive highly frequently; much more than nowadays since it's illegal. How many cases do you hear of MJ-induced accidents right now? Not nearly as much is Drinking problems. So by making it legal, you will just create a 2nd major accident causer, when it's really unnecissary to do such a thing.

Another thing is this will lead to more drugs being made legal. If this completely becomes legal, then people will get greedy and start demanding other drugs to be legal, since "this was made legal too". This will then lead to even worse drugs being made legal, which will thus ruin this country permanently.

Also, if you are around people who smoke MJ, you get a contact buzz, and what if I don't want to get high? I won't get to choose if I'm forced to be around a pot-smoker.

PS. No trolls or personal attacks. I want to have a clean discussion free of pointless attacks.


Really the cons outway. Tell that to a family killed by the mexican mafia because they got in the way of there profit.

So what about perscriptions, they are all good. sure they killed how many people.

How many people has pot killed? NONE

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SMOKE IF THEY WANT, YOU THINK KEEPING IT ILLEGAL STOPS ANYTHING YOU SAID. YOU ARE SEROUSLY MISTAKEN AND ACTUALLLY MAKES PEOPLE DO IT MORE. Look at amsterdam, People there smoke less then we do. Because it can be had at anytime.

No one is going to get greedy about legalizing something that is more harmful then pot. Thats the problem, it helps more people then it hurts. 

cancer patients, insomiacs, Non-addictive pain management, anorexia, cataracts and many uses for it.

the positives are way more then negatives and usaully this talk comes from a biased point of view. To not see all the upsides to it, is just to me closing there eyes to all the information.

What about all the people that stop drinking and stick to pot and stop drinking and driving. People will always do drugs but given a choice, I think we well be safer if people switch to pot.

I think the reasons you give are just insane and biased, just my point of view. don't mean to offend if I did.

Keeping it illegal keeps the power with the bad guys. when really taking one thing away is a big difference,no matter how much of one, it is one.



wow, no answer back. I guess I made some good points.



I would hope they would legalize it.  I don't want to pay casual users' jail sentences.

 

I don't like pot myself and it wouldn't affect me at all since I won't be using it.  Quite a few of my friends do it though.



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