I've read Gantz, it's one of my favourites. The only problem is that new chapters are being released really slowly. I really enjoyed the anime as well, the ending kinda put me off a little bit, but the action, gore and boobs kept it interesting. You and I are rare though, not a lot of people are willing to give Gantz a go, most people think it's too weird.

 I recently read Street cats, it is kind of a romantic manga but very nice overall... Gantz is pretty good as well, I would also recommend beelzebub, Veritas, Psyren & nurarihyon no mago... 

You know, I almost feel sympathy when manga nerds go on and on about how great manga is and jerks like me love to tell them they're wrong and how bad it is.  They tell me to go to Hell, I'm wrong, and that I have no right being here because it's their opinion.  Blah blah blah.

And then I see threads like this...where you crap on people that like Naruto.  Hooray for hypocrism!

naruto is really a bad manga and anime... its dropped in ratings should show that. It used to be an 8 plus show rating, now its like 5. To many fillers, and it just wont end. Even Bleach has an ending, a bad one, but it still ends and there isnt as many fillers and most of them are horrid or extremely pointless like naruto's. I do watch the Naruto anime, but when its out of filler mode, which it has another like month or two of fillers thats just made up back story which never happened and make little sense in Shuppoden at all. >.>

Talking about "manga" in general is as senseless as talking about "comics" in general. What are you tackling here? Trite serial products? Because for each bad Naruto and Dragonball Z arc there's an "Amazing Spiderman: the clone of the son of the symbiotic twin" or a "Final ultimate Crisis on a really small infinite number of earths. Again".

On the other plate of the scale you got your Moebius, Alan Moore, Grant Morrison or Neil Gaiman. But you also have excellent works from Yukinobu Hoshino, Otomo, Rumiko Takahashi, Miyazaki, Masamune Shirow or Fujishima.

Thus, in the spirit of OP,  I'll just leave a note of appreciation for

"2001 nights" by Yukinobu Hoshino.

A series of several short stories depicting humanity leaving earth to dive into colonization and discovery of outer space. Some episodes are of intimate nature, centered about relationship between very memorable characters in stark contrast with the almost-believable but outworldy setting. Other episodes verge on space opera or on new-wave sf tales of exploration and puzzlement, with more than a few nods to the classics of the genre. Still, there's an overarching arc and theme and an underlying warmth and care for the humanity that populates these stories, and many episodes are downright haunting.

Basically if you're an Asimov or Clarke nostalgic, you really ought to read this. You'll find the speculation, but also true flesh and blood.

Who cares about ratings (where are they anyway)? It's bad in your opinion? Still plenty of people who watch and like it. About the fillers, yes they're bad and simple solution to that, DON'T watch them.  The main storyline itself is good, the more you get into it, the more is revealed. It's how story progression works, so what if it takes a while? Is that such a bad thing?

I get not liking a manga/anime for personal reasons but this whole Naruto is bad by anime/manga puritans really annoys me. I can't take this thread seriously when people say Naruto is bad *insert silly reasons* but love series for stupid boobies that defy laws of gravity and fanservices. That's just sad.

Btw, Bleach didn't end. Manga is still going.

No Naruto?

SHARINGAN!!!!!

Thanks for calling me a nerd on a gaming forum while using a Ron Stoppable avatar.

Naruto went along the same path that Friends, Star Wars, Deltora Quest and Guitar Hero did, they all started out as interesting and cool and then they were artificially lengthened to go and on until it broke everything that made that series special. I'd recommend learning about these kind of things before coming into a thread with an opinion, it just make you look silly when you base your opinions on your ignorance. 

I'm not going to tell you to go to hell, but when your judgemental, it makes me judgemental and it makes both of us look immature and I don't want that in this thread.

You can talk about Naruto, but there isn't much to talk about. Everyone already knows about the series, the plot has stayed the same for a while now and it's moving at an extremely slow pace. You can talk about it and I'd appreciate the discussion, but I made this thread with the intention of introducing lesser known mangas to a new crowd.

Take into account that I really liked Naruto, but after the Pain arc it just started to drag to the point of boredom. The same thing happened to Bleach after Hueco Mueno.

@everyone else in the thread, the title was mainly used as a joke. I could have used One Piece, Bleach, Dragon Ball Z or whatever in it's place, because the intention of the lame humour was to create a figurative barrier between the main stream manga that everybody has already read or heard about and the lesser known manga that people think should be recommended because they don't receive the attention you think they deserve. Discuss whatever you want, but at least try and make an effort to discuss the qualities of the manga your pimping instead of defending  it.

No, you couldn't, those three are good anime/mangas ;) Lol

I only read Gantz, and as you have already pointed out you have to wait too long for each episode. But, the story is good. Really good.

This is a good thread, might check it later if I want to start reading something else.