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Akvod on 17 December 2010
FreeTalkLive said:
richardhutnik said:
 

So, in the future, if another 9/11 happens, no one should volunteer to help out, because they may get medical bills to bankrupt them, right?  You are in a building like the WTC complex had, and there is burning, just die.  Hey, life is hard, right?  Live free AND die!

I disagree.  Their government innsurance should pay for their bills.

But that's socialism. Don't you see that's exactly what the terrorist wanted? Destroy the World Trade Center, give people cancer, and then BOOM! Our red, white, and blue state just became all red.

It's a fucking conspiracy man. OPEN YOUR EYES. Watch more Glenn Beck.



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FreeTalkLive on 17 December 2010
Akvod said:

But that's socialism. Don't you see that's exactly what the terrorist wanted? Destroy the World Trade Center, give people cancer, and then BOOM! Our red, white, and blue state just became all red.

It's a fucking conspiracy man. OPEN YOUR EYES. Watch more Glenn Beck.

I wouldn't call it socialism since the firefighters in NYC are government workers already.  Where I live there are private firefighters so if they had government insurance, I think that would be bad.

 

Glenn Beck is ok but he isn't pro-liberty enough :)



 

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Vetteman94 on 17 December 2010
FreeTalkLive said:
Vetteman94 said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Vetteman94 said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Galaki said:

of the Republican party?


Senate Filibusters are almost always good.  The less amount of time the US Senate is in session, the better as it usually does bad things.  So this is great news. 

Thank you Mitch for talking about your friend instead of voting to increases taxes and spending with that time.  Mitch usually does the wrong thing while in office but in this case, he did all of the people of the US a good service.

Thank you Jon for discourging the Senate from meeting that week.  The less the US Senate does, the better it is for everyone.

Please tell me you are kidding?

About what?  Congress goes to DC and spends other people's money worse than the people would have spent it.  Almost everything Congress does is bad.  The less Congress meets, the better it is for everyone.  I think this is the popular opinion of the people in the US.  People certainly feel this way in New Hampshire, the Live Free or Die state.  Where do you live?

But how would this have cost us any money

That's all that Congress does.  They sit in a room and find new things to spend money on.

This wouldn't have cost the taxpayers a dime,  the money would be gotten from closing a business tax loophole.   So what was the problem with letting this happen



O-D-C on 17 December 2010

nothing surprises me anymore



FreeTalkLive on 17 December 2010
Vetteman94 said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Vetteman94 said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Vetteman94 said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Galaki said:

of the Republican party?


Senate Filibusters are almost always good.  The less amount of time the US Senate is in session, the better as it usually does bad things.  So this is great news. 

Thank you Mitch for talking about your friend instead of voting to increases taxes and spending with that time.  Mitch usually does the wrong thing while in office but in this case, he did all of the people of the US a good service.

Thank you Jon for discourging the Senate from meeting that week.  The less the US Senate does, the better it is for everyone.

Please tell me you are kidding?

About what?  Congress goes to DC and spends other people's money worse than the people would have spent it.  Almost everything Congress does is bad.  The less Congress meets, the better it is for everyone.  I think this is the popular opinion of the people in the US.  People certainly feel this way in New Hampshire, the Live Free or Die state.  Where do you live?

But how would this have cost us any money

That's all that Congress does.  They sit in a room and find new things to spend money on.

This wouldn't have cost the taxpayers a dime,  the money would be gotten from closing a business tax loophole.   So what was the problem with letting this happen

There isn't a business tax loophole.  That is just a way of saying that some people want to increase taxes.  They want to increase taxes on companies so that people don't have to pay it.  However, if taxes are increased on companies, those increases will be passed on to the people that use those products.  So it is a tax increase and it does cost the people money.



 

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Mr Khan on 17 December 2010
FreeTalkLive said:
Vetteman94 said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Vetteman94 said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Vetteman94 said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Galaki said:

of the Republican party?


Senate Filibusters are almost always good.  The less amount of time the US Senate is in session, the better as it usually does bad things.  So this is great news. 

Thank you Mitch for talking about your friend instead of voting to increases taxes and spending with that time.  Mitch usually does the wrong thing while in office but in this case, he did all of the people of the US a good service.

Thank you Jon for discourging the Senate from meeting that week.  The less the US Senate does, the better it is for everyone.

Please tell me you are kidding?

About what?  Congress goes to DC and spends other people's money worse than the people would have spent it.  Almost everything Congress does is bad.  The less Congress meets, the better it is for everyone.  I think this is the popular opinion of the people in the US.  People certainly feel this way in New Hampshire, the Live Free or Die state.  Where do you live?

But how would this have cost us any money

That's all that Congress does.  They sit in a room and find new things to spend money on.

This wouldn't have cost the taxpayers a dime,  the money would be gotten from closing a business tax loophole.   So what was the problem with letting this happen

There isn't a business tax loophole.  That is just a way of saying that some people want to increase taxes.  They want to increase taxes on companies so that people don't have to pay it.  However, if taxes are increased on companies, those increases will be passed on to the people that use those products.  So it is a tax increase and it does cost the people money.

Like major corporations need an excuse to jack up prices on anything...



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FreeTalkLive on 17 December 2010
Mr Khan said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Vetteman94 said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Vetteman94 said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Vetteman94 said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Galaki said:

of the Republican party?


Senate Filibusters are almost always good.  The less amount of time the US Senate is in session, the better as it usually does bad things.  So this is great news. 

Thank you Mitch for talking about your friend instead of voting to increases taxes and spending with that time.  Mitch usually does the wrong thing while in office but in this case, he did all of the people of the US a good service.

Thank you Jon for discourging the Senate from meeting that week.  The less the US Senate does, the better it is for everyone.

Please tell me you are kidding?

About what?  Congress goes to DC and spends other people's money worse than the people would have spent it.  Almost everything Congress does is bad.  The less Congress meets, the better it is for everyone.  I think this is the popular opinion of the people in the US.  People certainly feel this way in New Hampshire, the Live Free or Die state.  Where do you live?

But how would this have cost us any money

That's all that Congress does.  They sit in a room and find new things to spend money on.

This wouldn't have cost the taxpayers a dime,  the money would be gotten from closing a business tax loophole.   So what was the problem with letting this happen

There isn't a business tax loophole.  That is just a way of saying that some people want to increase taxes.  They want to increase taxes on companies so that people don't have to pay it.  However, if taxes are increased on companies, those increases will be passed on to the people that use those products.  So it is a tax increase and it does cost the people money.

Like major corporations need an excuse to jack up prices on anything...

I'm not sure the relation that has to this conversation.

If the government increases taxes on the companies, the companies should pass on the taxes to the people in the form of higher taxes.

The Daily Show was 100% wrong about the whole thing.  It's kinda sad how Jon used the NYC government workers when it reality he played himself by making himself look silly.



 

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Mr Khan on 17 December 2010
FreeTalkLive said:

I'm not sure the relation that has to this conversation.

If the government increases taxes on the companies, the companies should pass on the taxes to the people in the form of higher taxes.

The Daily Show was 100% wrong about the whole thing.  It's kinda sad how Jon used the NYC government workers when it reality he played himself by making himself look silly.

I'm saying that worrying about big business' interests when raising taxes is a fool's errand, and thus big business' concerns about giving necessary medical aid to good people are at best irrelevant, and more likely counter-progressive



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richardhutnik on 18 December 2010
FreeTalkLive said:
Mr Khan said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Vetteman94 said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Vetteman94 said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Vetteman94 said:
FreeTalkLive said:
Galaki said:

of the Republican party?


Senate Filibusters are almost always good.  The less amount of time the US Senate is in session, the better as it usually does bad things.  So this is great news. 

Thank you Mitch for talking about your friend instead of voting to increases taxes and spending with that time.  Mitch usually does the wrong thing while in office but in this case, he did all of the people of the US a good service.

Thank you Jon for discourging the Senate from meeting that week.  The less the US Senate does, the better it is for everyone.

Please tell me you are kidding?

About what?  Congress goes to DC and spends other people's money worse than the people would have spent it.  Almost everything Congress does is bad.  The less Congress meets, the better it is for everyone.  I think this is the popular opinion of the people in the US.  People certainly feel this way in New Hampshire, the Live Free or Die state.  Where do you live?

But how would this have cost us any money

That's all that Congress does.  They sit in a room and find new things to spend money on.

This wouldn't have cost the taxpayers a dime,  the money would be gotten from closing a business tax loophole.   So what was the problem with letting this happen

There isn't a business tax loophole.  That is just a way of saying that some people want to increase taxes.  They want to increase taxes on companies so that people don't have to pay it.  However, if taxes are increased on companies, those increases will be passed on to the people that use those products.  So it is a tax increase and it does cost the people money.

Like major corporations need an excuse to jack up prices on anything...

I'm not sure the relation that has to this conversation.

If the government increases taxes on the companies, the companies should pass on the taxes to the people in the form of higher taxes.

The Daily Show was 100% wrong about the whole thing.  It's kinda sad how Jon used the NYC government workers when it reality he played himself by making himself look silly.

Guess what... get ready for it... it is coming....

PRICES BUSINESSES CHARGE CUSTOMERS IS NOT BASED ON WHAT IT COSTS TO OPERATE.  The cost is based upon what the market will bear.  If a company can charge a premium, they will, and make a larger profit, they will.  If they can't, they make less of a profit.  If costs get too high, they go out of business.  At that point, supplies drop and prices can go up.  This is economics 101, which seems to get thrown out the window by some, whenever someone who believes tax cuts are the answers to everything, ends up speaking.



richardhutnik on 18 December 2010
FreeTalkLive said:
richardhutnik said:
 

So, in the future, if another 9/11 happens, no one should volunteer to help out, because they may get medical bills to bankrupt them, right?  You are in a building like the WTC complex had, and there is burning, just die.  Hey, life is hard, right?  Live free AND die!

I disagree.  Their government innsurance should pay for their bills.

And if individuals who were NOT on duty went down to help, acting like patriotic citizens, then what?  What should insurance pay for what they did when it wasn't part of their jobs?

Also, how the heck is government insurance any different from what is proposed in the bill, when BOTH are paid by tax dollars eventually?