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We all know what smoking can and will do to the human body, so if someone develops lunger cancer or whatever else smoking can cause...aren't they committing suicide? I'm not smoker and I don't like it but when people start blaming these tobacco companies for people dying from smoking it bugs me. These people are making the PERSONAL choice to start smoking...how is it the ceo or Malboro or Newports fault? What the hell happened to personal responsibility?

 



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It's not suicide, just being stupid.



Xbbjf9s said:

What the hell happened to personal responsibility?

It's a dying concept, sadly.



Xbbjf9s said:

We all know what smoking can and will do to the human body, so if someone develops lunger cancer or whatever else smoking can cause...aren't they committing suicide? I'm not smoker and I don't like it but when people start blaming these tobacco companies for people dying from smoking it bugs me. These people are making the PERSONAL choice to start smoking...how is it the ceo or Malboro or Newports fault? What the hell happened to personal responsibility?

 

According to cigarette companies, they have argued, and tried to lobby that their product doesn't cause cancer.  As far as they go, if a company knowingly sells a product that causes cancer and serves no useful purpose, you think they are innocent in anything?

Are you also away of the addictive nature of cigarettes, that once you get going you get hooked?  You get teens who don't know better, sucked into it, being marketed to by these companies, to be sucked into it.  And you think the companies doing this have NO say in the matter?

People do things every day that shorten their lives.  The difference is, with suicide, the people try to kill themselves. 



Realistically smoking should be banned. Any product that dangerous would not be allowed on the market if it was introduced today (there is no possible safe level or safe use of it). Since governments are stupid enough to let it persist, I don't think suits against tobacco companies or executives are substantial, because they all but clearly state it is harmful and will probably kill you.

EDIT: per richardhutnik, if the cigarette companies do try to claim their products are not harmful then I'm all for suing them. But I doubt many people are still under that impression, unlike 40 years ago.



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Meanwhile in Jamaica people are smoking cannabis with less harmful effects to the human body, but still, it isn't legalized.

the world is a joke.



No it is not suicide because ...Smoking does not mean you will die from it;.

That would be the same as saying.... Well it is his own fault that he fell from the mountain, mountain climbing = suicide..

Why do people blame those companies because they probably started to start with smoking while it got advertized as something that didn't harm people..

Anyway blame the government who makes so much money from the smokers;..

In countries like Russia you have something called 'The Electric cigarette'  It is way more healthy, it doesn't has that bad smell, and for some people it helps to stop with smoking;.And oh yeah it is also more cheaper..

It is really hypocrit that many governments advertise to stop smoking but at the same moment earn a lot of money selling those sigarettes..




 

Soleron said:

Realistically smoking should be banned. Any product that dangerous would not be allowed on the market if it was introduced today (there is no possible safe level or safe use of it). Since governments are stupid enough to let it persist, I don't think suits against tobacco companies or executives are substantial, because they all but clearly state it is harmful and will probably kill you.

EDIT: per richardhutnik, if the cigarette companies do try to claim their products are not harmful then I'm all for suing them. But I doubt many people are still under that impression, unlike 40 years ago.

But all the fun things are dangerous;.

Getting tipsy/drunk, smoking, playing video games (your eyes/sight), getting a nice fat hamburger, extreme sports etc..



 

I don't smoke and I don't care if people do or don't.  I do know people who do smoke seem to NEED cigarrettes.  It's like an uncontrollable craving.  And a lot of the people that are basically addicted to smoking started doing so when they were very young.  The product may or may not be marketed to kids.  I don't pay attention to that since I'm not the target.  I'm just posting my perception of things, skewed as it may be. 

Cigarrettes are definitely deadly.  I guess the reason it's not illegal is because it's part of the economy.  It's been part of the country for centuries.  It's an industry.  If tobacco were illegal, everyone from the farmer who grows it to the CEO who supports it, to the stores that sell it would collapse.  It's one of those acceptable forms of self destruction.  And I bet if cocaine were able to be controlled and taxed, it would be legal, too (for prescribed use).  Like everything else, it's all business first and people second.



You mean designing a highly addictive and ultimately fatal product and then marketing it to children is all good?