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Immortal on 17 December 2010
Chibi.V.29 said:
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Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:

Look at Wii's bestselling game. Wii Sports. No? Wii Play. New franchise. Look at DS' bestselling game. Nintendogs. New franchise.

Really, the most work Nintendo's put into is new franchises. Sure, they've added on to old franchises as well, but don't pretend that everyone doesn't do that. New franchises are always second priority. For everyone.


He meens a new character. Not incredibly low budget games they make just to weasel more money out of people ^^

That's just trolling, >.>.

Just because Nintendo doesn't throw money down a black hole like Sony did with the PS3 doesn't mean that it doesn't make games well. They make them cheaply, but they actually make them well.

Oh, and GT5 is just as much for weaseling the money out of your wallet as Nintendogs for mine. No less, no more.

Finally, Miis are new characters. And so are Nintendogs. Like it or not.

Sony knew they would lsoe money with ps3 but it would lead them tio win with blu-ray = win. LOL gt5 isnt a weasel for money what so ever XD. by that i meen with lets say wii music if prob cost them MAX 1 million 2 make and prob just 1 or 2 months. gt5 costs over $60 million and 6 years to make. weather or not u like gt5 it its obviously not just trying tio make a fats buck.

I supose in your mind then playstation home charecters are new characters aswell. Mii's just like PSHome character are what is commonly referd to as "cheap shit" XD

That was their intention, but it didn't exactly work, did it? Bluray, though not failing, is not doing nearly enough to recover the losses from PS3, and never will. Sony's pretty much been at its worst in the years after the PS3.

Anyway, that is, like it or not, the job of a game. Video games are a business. They're made almost solely, if not solely, for making money. If GT5 took far too long to develop and cost a pretty penny, it's doing things wrong. It's really nothing to admire. It's still trying to make a "fats buck" and apparently not doing that well at it either, >.>.

Oh, and if PS home characters appear in a lot of the console's most popular games, then sure, they're new characters, :D.


atleats with gt5 they tried to create something great. nintendo knew wii music sucked. they didnt care, becayuse they dont any more. if you find the thread about blu-ray tracking you will find that it is gaining on DVD everyday. expeshaly in japan where it is doing fantasticly. They recond that by 2017 (npot that far away in terms of a brand new platform) blu-ray will have a 74% market share (http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ray-disc/analyst-blu-ray-reach-74-market-share-2017-14496).

I meen honestly the scores for there mii games is just horific...

Wii Play 58%

Wii Music 63%

Wii part 68%

The nintendo i used to know woudd NEVER release this kind of crap. and yet here we are. a constant stream of it ^^

No, Nintendo didn't. They thought it would appeal to certain audiences and it didn't. It did not necessarily "suck" at all. And honestly, don't portray Sony as God. They both wanna make money, simple as that. Neither one of them was trying to make it good or bad at all. They made those games to sell, Wii Music and GT5. Also, look at how much Sony's been earning in recent years before looking at something as misleading as sales. Finally, metascores mean nothing. At all. And I could give you tons of "crap" Nintendo made last generation and generation before in terms of low reviews; Nintendo hasn't changed at all. You have.



 

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MrT-Tar on 17 December 2010
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:

Look at Wii's bestselling game. Wii Sports. No? Wii Play. New franchise. Look at DS' bestselling game. Nintendogs. New franchise.

Really, the most work Nintendo's put into is new franchises. Sure, they've added on to old franchises as well, but don't pretend that everyone doesn't do that. New franchises are always second priority. For everyone.


He meens a new character. Not incredibly low budget games they make just to weasel more money out of people ^^

That's just trolling, >.>.

Just because Nintendo doesn't throw money down a black hole like Sony did with the PS3 doesn't mean that it doesn't make games well. They make them cheaply, but they actually make them well.

Oh, and GT5 is just as much for weaseling the money out of your wallet as Nintendogs for mine. No less, no more.

Finally, Miis are new characters. And so are Nintendogs. Like it or not.

Sony knew they would lsoe money with ps3 but it would lead them tio win with blu-ray = win. LOL gt5 isnt a weasel for money what so ever XD. by that i meen with lets say wii music if prob cost them MAX 1 million 2 make and prob just 1 or 2 months. gt5 costs over $60 million and 6 years to make. weather or not u like gt5 it its obviously not just trying tio make a fats buck.

I supose in your mind then playstation home charecters are new characters aswell. Mii's just like PSHome character are what is commonly referd to as "cheap shit" XD

That was their intention, but it didn't exactly work, did it? Bluray, though not failing, is not doing nearly enough to recover the losses from PS3, and never will. Sony's pretty much been at its worst in the years after the PS3.

Anyway, that is, like it or not, the job of a game. Video games are a business. They're made almost solely, if not solely, for making money. If GT5 took far too long to develop and cost a pretty penny, it's doing things wrong. It's really nothing to admire. It's still trying to make a "fats buck" and apparently not doing that well at it either, >.>.

Oh, and if PS home characters appear in a lot of the console's most popular games, then sure, they're new characters, :D.


atleats with gt5 they tried to create something great. nintendo knew wii music sucked. they didnt care, becayuse they dont any more. if you find the thread about blu-ray tracking you will find that it is gaining on DVD everyday. expeshaly in japan where it is doing fantasticly. They recond that by 2017 (npot that far away in terms of a brand new platform) blu-ray will have a 74% market share (http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ray-disc/analyst-blu-ray-reach-74-market-share-2017-14496).

I meen honestly the scores for there mii games is just horific...

Wii Play 58%

Wii Music 63%

Wii part 68%

The nintendo i used to know woudd NEVER release this kind of crap. and yet here we are. a constant stream of it ^^


May I ask what was the 'Nintendo you used to know', because I believe that you are viewing Nintendo in the past with rose tinted spectacles.  I don't know about you, but I rate the likes of Wii party higher than the virtual boy for example.  The word 'constant' also suggests a steady stream of 'crap', but you've named 3 games which is 'rare' or at best 'infrequent'.  I wouldn't say Nintendo have made any 'crap' this gen, just a couple of disappointing or at a push poor games (Wii music for example). 

As for the whole character issue you're forgetting the loads of non so called 'cheap shit' characters Nintendo have made this gen.  Ones from Xenoblade, Disaster, or anything from my post further up the page.

And I hate to say it but I think 'horrific' is a better description of your spelling and grammar than the 'Mii games'.




saicho on 17 December 2010
Chibi.V.29 said:


atleats with gt5 they tried to create something great. nintendo knew wii music sucked. they didnt care, becayuse they dont any more. if you find the thread about blu-ray tracking you will find that it is gaining on DVD everyday. expeshaly in japan where it is doing fantasticly. They recond that by 2017 (npot that far away in terms of a brand new platform) blu-ray will have a 74% market share (http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ray-disc/analyst-blu-ray-reach-74-market-share-2017-14496).

I meen honestly the scores for there mii games is just horific...

Wii Play 58%

Wii Music 63%

Wii part 68%

The nintendo i used to know woudd NEVER release this kind of crap. and yet here we are. a constant stream of it ^^

On a completely unrelated note, why are you quoting something from Feb 2009 while we are in Dec 2010? Do you have new evidence that suggests Blu-ray is still on track to have 74% market share by 2017?



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

Chibi.V.29 on 17 December 2010
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:

Look at Wii's bestselling game. Wii Sports. No? Wii Play. New franchise. Look at DS' bestselling game. Nintendogs. New franchise.

Really, the most work Nintendo's put into is new franchises. Sure, they've added on to old franchises as well, but don't pretend that everyone doesn't do that. New franchises are always second priority. For everyone.


He meens a new character. Not incredibly low budget games they make just to weasel more money out of people ^^

That's just trolling, >.>.

Just because Nintendo doesn't throw money down a black hole like Sony did with the PS3 doesn't mean that it doesn't make games well. They make them cheaply, but they actually make them well.

Oh, and GT5 is just as much for weaseling the money out of your wallet as Nintendogs for mine. No less, no more.

Finally, Miis are new characters. And so are Nintendogs. Like it or not.

Sony knew they would lsoe money with ps3 but it would lead them tio win with blu-ray = win. LOL gt5 isnt a weasel for money what so ever XD. by that i meen with lets say wii music if prob cost them MAX 1 million 2 make and prob just 1 or 2 months. gt5 costs over $60 million and 6 years to make. weather or not u like gt5 it its obviously not just trying tio make a fats buck.

I supose in your mind then playstation home charecters are new characters aswell. Mii's just like PSHome character are what is commonly referd to as "cheap shit" XD

That was their intention, but it didn't exactly work, did it? Bluray, though not failing, is not doing nearly enough to recover the losses from PS3, and never will. Sony's pretty much been at its worst in the years after the PS3.

Anyway, that is, like it or not, the job of a game. Video games are a business. They're made almost solely, if not solely, for making money. If GT5 took far too long to develop and cost a pretty penny, it's doing things wrong. It's really nothing to admire. It's still trying to make a "fats buck" and apparently not doing that well at it either, >.>.

Oh, and if PS home characters appear in a lot of the console's most popular games, then sure, they're new characters, :D.


atleats with gt5 they tried to create something great. nintendo knew wii music sucked. they didnt care, becayuse they dont any more. if you find the thread about blu-ray tracking you will find that it is gaining on DVD everyday. expeshaly in japan where it is doing fantasticly. They recond that by 2017 (npot that far away in terms of a brand new platform) blu-ray will have a 74% market share (http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ray-disc/analyst-blu-ray-reach-74-market-share-2017-14496).

I meen honestly the scores for there mii games is just horific...

Wii Play 58%

Wii Music 63%

Wii part 68%

The nintendo i used to know woudd NEVER release this kind of crap. and yet here we are. a constant stream of it ^^

No, Nintendo didn't. They thought it would appeal to certain audiences and it didn't. It did not necessarily "suck" at all. And honestly, don't portray Sony as God. They both wanna make money, simple as that. Neither one of them was trying to make it good or bad at all. They made those games to sell, Wii Music and GT5. Also, look at how much Sony's been earning in recent years before looking at something as misleading as sales. Finally, metascores mean nothing. At all. And I could give you tons of "crap" Nintendo made last generation and generation before in terms of low reviews; Nintendo hasn't changed at all. You have.


Sony arnt doing as badly as they where and that wasnt due to the ps3 XD it was the resetion hit them HARD just liek ti dd most hardware companys. I cba to have aniother argument wot a 13 year old to im goign to end this conversationur comment of "nintendo havtn change. you have" that was so much lol im gona quote it as my sig XD. u dont even know me XD



Yeah i know my spelling sucks but im dysgraphic so live with it :3    

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Chibi.V.29 on 17 December 2010
saicho said:
Chibi.V.29 said:


atleats with gt5 they tried to create something great. nintendo knew wii music sucked. they didnt care, becayuse they dont any more. if you find the thread about blu-ray tracking you will find that it is gaining on DVD everyday. expeshaly in japan where it is doing fantasticly. They recond that by 2017 (npot that far away in terms of a brand new platform) blu-ray will have a 74% market share (http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ray-disc/analyst-blu-ray-reach-74-market-share-2017-14496).

I meen honestly the scores for there mii games is just horific...

Wii Play 58%

Wii Music 63%

Wii part 68%

The nintendo i used to know woudd NEVER release this kind of crap. and yet here we are. a constant stream of it ^^

On a completely unrelated note, why are you quoting something from Feb 2009 while we are in Dec 2010? Do you have new evidence that suggests Blu-ray is still on track to have 74% market share by 2017?


Do you have any evidence its not? ^^ just go look at the blu-ray thread. cba woth proving stuff today.



Yeah i know my spelling sucks but im dysgraphic so live with it :3    

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Chibi.V.29 on 17 December 2010
MrT-Tar said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:

Look at Wii's bestselling game. Wii Sports. No? Wii Play. New franchise. Look at DS' bestselling game. Nintendogs. New franchise.

Really, the most work Nintendo's put into is new franchises. Sure, they've added on to old franchises as well, but don't pretend that everyone doesn't do that. New franchises are always second priority. For everyone.


He meens a new character. Not incredibly low budget games they make just to weasel more money out of people ^^

That's just trolling, >.>.

Just because Nintendo doesn't throw money down a black hole like Sony did with the PS3 doesn't mean that it doesn't make games well. They make them cheaply, but they actually make them well.

Oh, and GT5 is just as much for weaseling the money out of your wallet as Nintendogs for mine. No less, no more.

Finally, Miis are new characters. And so are Nintendogs. Like it or not.

Sony knew they would lsoe money with ps3 but it would lead them tio win with blu-ray = win. LOL gt5 isnt a weasel for money what so ever XD. by that i meen with lets say wii music if prob cost them MAX 1 million 2 make and prob just 1 or 2 months. gt5 costs over $60 million and 6 years to make. weather or not u like gt5 it its obviously not just trying tio make a fats buck.

I supose in your mind then playstation home charecters are new characters aswell. Mii's just like PSHome character are what is commonly referd to as "cheap shit" XD

That was their intention, but it didn't exactly work, did it? Bluray, though not failing, is not doing nearly enough to recover the losses from PS3, and never will. Sony's pretty much been at its worst in the years after the PS3.

Anyway, that is, like it or not, the job of a game. Video games are a business. They're made almost solely, if not solely, for making money. If GT5 took far too long to develop and cost a pretty penny, it's doing things wrong. It's really nothing to admire. It's still trying to make a "fats buck" and apparently not doing that well at it either, >.>.

Oh, and if PS home characters appear in a lot of the console's most popular games, then sure, they're new characters, :D.


atleats with gt5 they tried to create something great. nintendo knew wii music sucked. they didnt care, becayuse they dont any more. if you find the thread about blu-ray tracking you will find that it is gaining on DVD everyday. expeshaly in japan where it is doing fantasticly. They recond that by 2017 (npot that far away in terms of a brand new platform) blu-ray will have a 74% market share (http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ray-disc/analyst-blu-ray-reach-74-market-share-2017-14496).

I meen honestly the scores for there mii games is just horific...

Wii Play 58%

Wii Music 63%

Wii part 68%

The nintendo i used to know woudd NEVER release this kind of crap. and yet here we are. a constant stream of it ^^


May I ask what was the 'Nintendo you used to know', because I believe that you are viewing Nintendo in the past with rose tinted spectacles.  I don't know about you, but I rate the likes of Wii party higher than the virtual boy for example.  The word 'constant' also suggests a steady stream of 'crap', but you've named 3 games which is 'rare' or at best 'infrequent'.  I wouldn't say Nintendo have made any 'crap' this gen, just a couple of disappointing or at a push poor games (Wii music for example). 

As for the whole character issue you're forgetting the loads of non so called 'cheap shit' characters Nintendo have made this gen.  Ones from Xenoblade, Disaster, or anything from my post further up the page.

And I hate to say it but I think 'horrific' is a better description of your spelling and grammar than the 'Mii games'.

Oh i do apologise for being disgraphics why dony you go have a word with god and ask him why the fuck i cant spell >_>

Its my opinion that nintendo where better int he past.



Yeah i know my spelling sucks but im dysgraphic so live with it :3    

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saicho on 17 December 2010
Chibi.V.29 said:
saicho said:
Chibi.V.29 said:


atleats with gt5 they tried to create something great. nintendo knew wii music sucked. they didnt care, becayuse they dont any more. if you find the thread about blu-ray tracking you will find that it is gaining on DVD everyday. expeshaly in japan where it is doing fantasticly. They recond that by 2017 (npot that far away in terms of a brand new platform) blu-ray will have a 74% market share (http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ray-disc/analyst-blu-ray-reach-74-market-share-2017-14496).

I meen honestly the scores for there mii games is just horific...

Wii Play 58%

Wii Music 63%

Wii part 68%

The nintendo i used to know woudd NEVER release this kind of crap. and yet here we are. a constant stream of it ^^

On a completely unrelated note, why are you quoting something from Feb 2009 while we are in Dec 2010? Do you have new evidence that suggests Blu-ray is still on track to have 74% market share by 2017?


Do you have any evidence its not? ^^ just go look at the blu-ray thread. cba woth proving stuff today.

I don't have any evidence but the proof is on you since you are the one who used a 22 month old article. It's not like analysts are never wrong. A lot of things could change in 22 months.

Anyhow, I was just wondering why you chose an article that old to provde your point. moving on...



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

Immortal on 17 December 2010
Chibi.V.29 said:

Sony arnt doing as badly as they where and that wasnt due to the ps3 XD it was the resetion hit them HARD just liek ti dd most hardware companys. I cba to have aniother argument wot a 13 year old to im goign to end this conversationur comment of "nintendo havtn change. you have" that was so much lol im gona quote it as my sig XD. u dont even know me XD


xD. Just the first sentence makes your post ridiculous. Have you seen their market cap? It's smaller than Nintendo's and Sony makes every electronic product under the sun!

Also, I'm sorry, I don't even mean to mock your grammar or spelling, but I simply cannot comprehend what you wrote after that. cba? conversationur? And you really need to stop mentioning my age. It means nothing here and it just makes it look like you have no argument.

I can understand the last part, and it doesn't matter whether or not I know you. I was simply refuting your claim about Nintendo producing "crap", which it isn't. And if it is, it always has. In your opinion, maybe not, but if you're just going to use your opinion as evidence, we might as well end this argument here.



 

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MARCUSDJACKSON on 17 December 2010

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Chibi.V.29 on 17 December 2010
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

Sony arnt doing as badly as they where and that wasnt due to the ps3 XD it was the resetion hit them HARD just liek ti dd most hardware companys. I cba to have aniother argument wot a 13 year old to im goign to end this conversationur comment of "nintendo havtn change. you have" that was so much lol im gona quote it as my sig XD. u dont even know me XD


xD. Just the first sentence makes your post ridiculous. Have you seen their market cap? It's smaller than Nintendo's and Sony makes every electronic product under the sun!

Also, I'm sorry, I don't even mean to mock your grammar or spelling, but I simply cannot comprehend what you wrote after that. cba? conversationur? And you really need to stop mentioning my age. It means nothing here and it just makes it look like you have no argument.

I can understand the last part, and it doesn't matter whether or not I know you. I was simply refuting your claim about Nintendo producing "crap", which it isn't. And if it is, it always has. In your opinion, maybe not, but if you're just going to use your opinion as evidence, we might as well end this argument here.

I said lets end this convo. so end it already. in my opinion they make crap these. days. cba means cant be asked. and go to sleep it ur bed time. lol



Yeah i know my spelling sucks but im dysgraphic so live with it :3    

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