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Kasz216 said:
GameOver22 said:

I can't say the results of the study surprise me much because voters are generally uniformed about political issues, but the level of misinformation is concerning. There is a difference between not knowing an answer and believing a wrong answer to be true.


The very first thing you learn when you take a research class is that people HATE saying "I don't know."

You could make up a question that his completly fictional like


"Did Alexander the Great say his favorite color was Red or Blue" and a great number of people will say either Red or Blue, even though such an event never occured.

Looking back at the polls, it is odd that they didn't provide an "undecided" or "no opinion" category. That could skew the results because people who do not know the answer will just guess. It probably is the case that many  of the people were not misinformed. They were probably ignorant about the issues and just guessed.



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Kasz216 said:
Tigerlure said:
Kasz216 said:
Tigerlure said:
Kasz216 said:

Going over the study... a lot of the questions asked... aren't really "true or false" things.

Like "Did the stimulus legislation gain or lose jobs".

Furthermore, pretty much ALL of the questions are democratically biased... as in few are questions Liberals would get wrong.

 

I find in intersting that 44% of the country isn't sure Obama was born in the US according to their report as well.  That's much higher then I remember that number being, which brings up sampling issues.


Alright, so what kind of questions would you ask?


Stuff like "Did Sarah Palin say she could see Russia from her house.", "Were their WMD's found in Iraq", 

stuff like that.   "Did Ron Paul say that he thought segregation should be put back into place" would be another good one.


Hmm fair enough, counter it with left-wing talking points. I am curious, however, to see how you would answer the WMD question.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/10/wikileaks-show-wmd-hunt-continued-in-iraq-with-surprising-results/

wow thanks for posting that



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GameOver22 said:
Kasz216 said:
GameOver22 said:

I can't say the results of the study surprise me much because voters are generally uniformed about political issues, but the level of misinformation is concerning. There is a difference between not knowing an answer and believing a wrong answer to be true.


The very first thing you learn when you take a research class is that people HATE saying "I don't know."

You could make up a question that his completly fictional like


"Did Alexander the Great say his favorite color was Red or Blue" and a great number of people will say either Red or Blue, even though such an event never occured.

Looking back at the polls, it is odd that they didn't provide an "undecided" or "no opinion" category. That could skew the results because people who do not know the answer will just guess. It probably is the case that many  of the people were not misinformed. They were probably ignorant about the issues and just guessed.

I woulda got a majority of those questions wrong, and I woulda got them wrong if I watched Fox, CNN, or MSNBC because I could really care less about worthless legislation that gets passed...what makes me happier is when nothing gets passed.



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NKAJ said:
Kasz216 said:
Tigerlure said:
Kasz216 said:
Tigerlure said:
Kasz216 said:

Going over the study... a lot of the questions asked... aren't really "true or false" things.

Like "Did the stimulus legislation gain or lose jobs".

Furthermore, pretty much ALL of the questions are democratically biased... as in few are questions Liberals would get wrong.

 

I find in intersting that 44% of the country isn't sure Obama was born in the US according to their report as well.  That's much higher then I remember that number being, which brings up sampling issues.


Alright, so what kind of questions would you ask?


Stuff like "Did Sarah Palin say she could see Russia from her house.", "Were their WMD's found in Iraq", 

stuff like that.   "Did Ron Paul say that he thought segregation should be put back into place" would be another good one.


Hmm fair enough, counter it with left-wing talking points. I am curious, however, to see how you would answer the WMD question.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/10/wikileaks-show-wmd-hunt-continued-in-iraq-with-surprising-results/

wow thanks for posting that

You know the funniest thing about Wikileaks in general (imho) is that it wouldn't be a big deal if the government didn't seem to think they have to lie to us about all sorts of things in our lives.  I really fail to understand why some of this information hasn't been given to us anyways.



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mhsillen said:

This is fun to do at a party

Walk up behind an unsuspecting Liberal and yell Fox News.

Watch em scream and dive behind furniture.

Obama did nothing..nothing before he became president.  We don't even know about his college transcripts.MSM didn't even bother to dig and he never released them.  He is supposed to be a genius but what is this based on?  Another good one is when someone says he is a Professor. Ah..no.

But the main stream media made sure we knew what brand of underwear Palin wore.What a disgrace.

I would believe Fox news before the Obama water carriers at the other news nets

George Bush didn't release his college transcript either, it's their own personal information and they have a right to hold onto it if they want to. Just like McCain never fully released his medical records.

Also he was a professor at the University of Chicago and I think still is. My friend goes to the University of Chicago law school and can show you his name on the faculty list.

Your just repeating the same crap wacko birther conspiracy theorists say. Any intelligent person can easily do their own research and prove the things you say wrong. 



                                           

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I found very few problems with the survey methodology ( http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/dec10/Misinformation_Dec10_quaire.pdf ). The use of a Likert Scale in answering the questions gave voters more choice instead of being pigeonholed into "True; Fale; No Opinion/Don't Know." If the answers only contain three options, then the likelihood your results will not reflect the US population as a whole and the margin of error gets much higher. For this very reason, the Likert Scale is the most commonly used form of answer in surveys.

@Kasz, it was Rand Paul, Kentucky's newest US Senator who was for removing parts of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that required privately owned businesses who serve the public to desegregate. ( http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/feature/2010/05/20/rand_paul_maddow_segregation_open2010 )

As for Fox News spreading misinformation, Roger Ailes, head of Fox News, was a media consultant for Presidents Nixon, Reagan, and George HW Bush. Roger Ailes also consulted for Rudy Giuliani during his first mayoral campaign in 1989. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ailes#Early_television ).

Ken Jautz, the head of CNN, gave Glenn Beck his a primetime 7pm CNN HLN slot in effect unleashing this fringe right-wing Mormon idiot upon the world. ( http://www.thewrap.com/media/column-post/ken-jautz-cnn-future-21202 ).

Phil Griffin, the head of MSNBC, is an industry man being with MSNBC when it was founded in 1996 and was with NBC news beforehand. ( http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25707456/ )

I would like to part saying Fox News from Roger Ailes on down reflects a good deal of Roger Ailes' biases. Fox News is not "Fair and Balanced" especially when you consider O'Reilly, Hannity, and Beck do not have liberal counterparts with their own show on Fox News. Furthermore, the use of "Government Option" instead of "Public Options" during the US healthcare debate in 2010 shows that the reporters NOT the commentators at Fox News follow orders like Germans during the Third Reich making the reporters at Fox News just as culpable in promoting a conservative view and tone to news reporting. ( http://mediamatters.org/blog/201012090003 ).



I do not like how Roger Ailes runs Fox News, but I would get along with him just fine on a personal level. Here he is utterly wtfpwning Arianna Huffington while Krugman twiddles his pencil with his head down thinking "Oh God, what have I gotten into...Please don't lay into me." George Will, the conservative columnist for the Washington Post, is just amazed at how deft and ruthless Ailes is:

Ailes is right considering Geraldine Ferraro, the first woman Democratic candidate to run for US VP in 1984. Geraldine Ferraro has been a commentator for Fox News since 1999. You can check wikipedia to verify this. Here is her page at Fox News:

http://www.foxnews.com/bios/talent/geraldine-ann-ferraro/



Baalzamon said:
NKAJ said:
Kasz216 said:
Tigerlure said:
Kasz216 said:
Tigerlure said:
Kasz216 said:

Going over the study... a lot of the questions asked... aren't really "true or false" things.

Like "Did the stimulus legislation gain or lose jobs".

Furthermore, pretty much ALL of the questions are democratically biased... as in few are questions Liberals would get wrong.

 

I find in intersting that 44% of the country isn't sure Obama was born in the US according to their report as well.  That's much higher then I remember that number being, which brings up sampling issues.


Alright, so what kind of questions would you ask?


Stuff like "Did Sarah Palin say she could see Russia from her house.", "Were their WMD's found in Iraq", 

stuff like that.   "Did Ron Paul say that he thought segregation should be put back into place" would be another good one.


Hmm fair enough, counter it with left-wing talking points. I am curious, however, to see how you would answer the WMD question.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/10/wikileaks-show-wmd-hunt-continued-in-iraq-with-surprising-results/

wow thanks for posting that

You know the funniest thing about Wikileaks in general (imho) is that it wouldn't be a big deal if the government didn't seem to think they have to lie to us about all sorts of things in our lives.  I really fail to understand why some of this information hasn't been given to us anyways.

I actually think that particular thing WAS given out, it's just nobody paid attention.  I do remember them talking about chemical weapons found and nobody paying attention to it.



Mendicate Bias said:
mhsillen said:

This is fun to do at a party

Walk up behind an unsuspecting Liberal and yell Fox News.

Watch em scream and dive behind furniture.

Obama did nothing..nothing before he became president.  We don't even know about his college transcripts.MSM didn't even bother to dig and he never released them.  He is supposed to be a genius but what is this based on?  Another good one is when someone says he is a Professor. Ah..no.

But the main stream media made sure we knew what brand of underwear Palin wore.What a disgrace.

I would believe Fox news before the Obama water carriers at the other news nets

George Bush didn't release his college transcript either, it's their own personal information and they have a right to hold onto it if they want to. Just like McCain never fully released his medical records.

Also he was a professor at the University of Chicago and I think still is. My friend goes to the University of Chicago law school and can show you his name on the faculty list.

Your just repeating the same crap wacko birther conspiracy theorists say. Any intelligent person can easily do their own research and prove the things you say wrong. 


he is not a professor your friend is misinformed 



Killiana1a said:

O'Reilly, Hannity, and Beck do not have liberal counterparts with their own show on Fox News.

I just randomly decided to look up something on CNN, and this is what you get (and it is totally true).

http://www.charlotteconservative.com/index.php/2010/12/no-conservatives-in-cnn-panel-discussion-on-taxes-gays-in-the-military/

These stations may claim that they have conservatives fighting the liberals on the issues, but they are NOT conservatives, they are just in the middle...are liberals really so ignorant that they never seem to see anything wrong with their stations but then always just bash the conservative stuff?...At least I know my conservative stations have problems.

Calling the conservatives on other stations conservatives is just like Glenn Beck saying FoxNews has all sorts of liberals because they are just people in the middle instead of being crazily far to the right (which I don't even like).

Here's a link for where Beck said that:

http://www.politicususa.com/en/beck-fox-liberals



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