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themanwithnoname on 15 December 2010
S.T.A.G.E. said:
themanwithnoname said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
SecondWar said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You're going to be waiting a while for a new top notch IP from Microsoft.

Really? I thought the next one would be Codename:Kingdoms


Microsoft is only publishing the game. It isn't in-house and I havent seen gameplay. Pick another title. Its about as exclusive as the original Mass Effect.

what if they own the ip rights?  Nobody knows that yet.  In which case it would be just as exclusive as resistance or ratchet and clank.  


Ok....you're comparing a title from Crytek (who generally make games for themselves) to Insomniac who has since the PS1 era been making titles exclusively for Sony? They are third party, but are almost seen by the industry as an unofficial first party. Microsoft has never had that type of respect since entering the console industry.

thats cool, so sony's unofficial first party studio's are going multiplatform with their next game?  Thats some crazy logic man.  Insomniac going multiplatform just goes to show that historic trends don't mean anything when it comes to new ip.  


The question is which game you're talking about? Thats when I'll answer. Bungie is multiplatform, Ensemble is no more. They bought the rights to Ninja Blade....and nothing came from that. All they've got left is the top new IP of the gen they started with which is gears. Insomniac might be going multiplat, but they've always been faithful to Sony. I guess being third party they just want to make more money now. They've made console defining titles for Sony for three generations. Theres no crazy logic about that.

Calling anything Insomniac's done as console defining is a bit of a stretch. Nobody thinks of an Insomniac game right off the bat when they think of any of the three Playstations.


Ok....so when someone says Sypro, Ratchet & Clank and Resitance you don't think of Sony? LOL Good one buddy. :)

Stop being obtuse. When you say console defining, you're obviously talking about a game that as soon as you think of the console. Like Playstation and Final Fantasy or Xbox and Halo. I'm sorry, but I truly lol in your general direction if you think anything Insomniac's done can be put under the label of "console-defining." Stop trying to pull a bait and switch on what you actually said.

Everybody thinks of Nintendo when they think of Kirby, but that doesn't make it console defining.



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gergroy on 15 December 2010
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
SecondWar said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You're going to be waiting a while for a new top notch IP from Microsoft.

Really? I thought the next one would be Codename:Kingdoms


Microsoft is only publishing the game. It isn't in-house and I havent seen gameplay. Pick another title. Its about as exclusive as the original Mass Effect.

what if they own the ip rights?  Nobody knows that yet.  In which case it would be just as exclusive as resistance or ratchet and clank.  


Ok....you're comparing a title from Crytek (who generally make games for themselves) to Insomniac who has since the PS1 era been making titles exclusively for Sony? They are third party, but are almost seen by the industry as an unofficial first party. Microsoft has never had that type of respect since entering the console industry.

thats cool, so sony's unofficial first party studio's are going multiplatform with their next game?  Thats some crazy logic man.  Insomniac going multiplatform just goes to show that historic trends don't mean anything when it comes to new ip.  


The question is which game you're talking about? Thats when I'll answer. Bungie is multiplatform, Ensemble is no more. They bought the rights to Ninja Blade....and nothing came from that. All they've got left is the top new IP of the gen they started with which is gears. Insomniac might be going multiplat, but they've always been faithful to Sony. I guess being third party they just want to make more money now. They've made console defining titles for Sony for three generations. Theres no crazy logic about that.

the crazy logic is where you say crytek can't be exclusive.  Who is to say that microsoft can't own the ip to kingdoms (especially since it is being co-developed).  



S.T.A.G.E. on 15 December 2010
heruamon said:
mantlepiecek said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
SecondWar said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You're going to be waiting a while for a new top notch IP from Microsoft.

Really? I thought the next one would be Codename:Kingdoms


Microsoft is only publishing the game. It isn't in-house and I havent seen gameplay. Pick another title. Its about as exclusive as the original Mass Effect.

what if they own the ip rights?  Nobody knows that yet.  In which case it would be just as exclusive as resistance or ratchet and clank.  


Ok....you're comparing a title from Crytek (who generally make games for themselves) to Insomniac who has since the PS1 era been making titles exclusively for Sony? They are third party, but are almost seen by the industry as an unofficial first party. Microsoft has never had that type of respect since entering the console industry.

thats cool, so sony's unofficial first party studio's are going multiplatform with their next game?  Thats some crazy logic man.  Insomniac going multiplatform just goes to show that historic trends don't mean anything when it comes to new ip.  


The question is which game you're talking about? Thats when I'll answer. Bungie is multiplatform, Ensemble is no more. They bought the rights to Ninja Blade....and nothing came from that. All they've got left is the top new IP of the gen they started with which is gears. Insomniac might be going multiplat, but they've always been faithful to Sony. I guess being third party they just want to make more money now. They've made console defining titles for Sony for three generations. Theres no crazy logic about that.

Insomniac isn't going completely multi-plat. Its only for one game.

LOL...until they see those sales on the 360...


Wait....you actually believe 360 sales will move Insomniac? If it hasn't done it already its not happening. They will do nothing exclusive for Microsoft, much like Bungie will continue to make exclusives for Microsoft.



S.T.A.G.E. on 15 December 2010
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
SecondWar said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You're going to be waiting a while for a new top notch IP from Microsoft.

Really? I thought the next one would be Codename:Kingdoms


Microsoft is only publishing the game. It isn't in-house and I havent seen gameplay. Pick another title. Its about as exclusive as the original Mass Effect.

what if they own the ip rights?  Nobody knows that yet.  In which case it would be just as exclusive as resistance or ratchet and clank.  


Ok....you're comparing a title from Crytek (who generally make games for themselves) to Insomniac who has since the PS1 era been making titles exclusively for Sony? They are third party, but are almost seen by the industry as an unofficial first party. Microsoft has never had that type of respect since entering the console industry.

thats cool, so sony's unofficial first party studio's are going multiplatform with their next game?  Thats some crazy logic man.  Insomniac going multiplatform just goes to show that historic trends don't mean anything when it comes to new ip.  


The question is which game you're talking about? Thats when I'll answer. Bungie is multiplatform, Ensemble is no more. They bought the rights to Ninja Blade....and nothing came from that. All they've got left is the top new IP of the gen they started with which is gears. Insomniac might be going multiplat, but they've always been faithful to Sony. I guess being third party they just want to make more money now. They've made console defining titles for Sony for three generations. Theres no crazy logic about that.

the crazy logic is where you say crytek can't be exclusive.  Who is to say that microsoft can't own the ip to kingdoms (especially since it is being co-developed).  

Since when did I even talk about Crytek being exclusive (Especially after all the crap with EA)? I never said Microsoft cannot own the IP to kingdoms. I stated it would be no more exclusive than the original Mass Effect. Good lord...lets hope PC doesn't get it either. 



mantlepiecek on 15 December 2010
heruamon said:
mantlepiecek said:

Insomniac isn't going completely multi-plat. Its only for one game.

LOL...until they see those sales on the 360...


Hmm...you do realize that Insomniac makes two games regularly, right? Ratchet and resistance. And they are looking forward to increasing their dev time to 3 years from two years, so that makes it even more difficult to make any more new ips than the one they are making right now.

So, which do you think will sell more? The new IP, or the resistance one or the ratchet one? My bets on the resistance one.



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Shadowblind on 15 December 2010
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
SecondWar said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You're going to be waiting a while for a new top notch IP from Microsoft.

Really? I thought the next one would be Codename:Kingdoms


Microsoft is only publishing the game. It isn't in-house and I havent seen gameplay. Pick another title. Its about as exclusive as the original Mass Effect.

what if they own the ip rights?  Nobody knows that yet.  In which case it would be just as exclusive as resistance or ratchet and clank.  


Ok....you're comparing a title from Crytek (who generally make games for themselves) to Insomniac who has since the PS1 era been making titles exclusively for Sony? They are third party, but are almost seen by the industry as an unofficial first party. Microsoft has never had that type of respect since entering the console industry.

thats cool, so sony's unofficial first party studio's are going multiplatform with their next game?  Thats some crazy logic man.  Insomniac going multiplatform just goes to show that historic trends don't mean anything when it comes to new ip.  


The question is which game you're talking about? Thats when I'll answer. Bungie is multiplatform, Ensemble is no more. They bought the rights to Ninja Blade....and nothing came from that. All they've got left is the top new IP of the gen they started with which is gears. Insomniac might be going multiplat, but they've always been faithful to Sony. I guess being third party they just want to make more money now. They've made console defining titles for Sony for three generations. Theres no crazy logic about that.

the crazy logic is where you say crytek can't be exclusive.  Who is to say that microsoft can't own the ip to kingdoms (especially since it is being co-developed).  

Since when did I even talk about Crytek being exclusive (Especially after all the crap with EA)? I never said Microsoft cannot own the IP to kingdoms. I stated it would be no more exclusive than the original Mass Effect. Good lord...lets hope PC doesn't get it either. 

Microsoft doesn't own the Mass Effect IP . . .

You are very confusing. I thought the argument was that later Kingdoms games might come out for other consoles, since thats what happened after the original Mass Effect. If Microsoft owns the Kingdoms IP, then that would never happen in an eternity of time unless Microsoft sells it.



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heruamon on 15 December 2010
mantlepiecek said:
heruamon said:
mantlepiecek said:

Insomniac isn't going completely multi-plat. Its only for one game.

LOL...until they see those sales on the 360...


Hmm...you do realize that Insomniac makes two games regularly, right? Ratchet and resistance. And they are looking forward to increasing their dev time to 3 years from two years, so that makes it even more difficult to make any more new ips than the one they are making right now.

So, which do you think will sell more? The new IP, or the resistance one or the ratchet one? My bets on the resistance one.


Wait...you think a multiplatform shooter by them will sell LESS than there next resistance game....lol...are you being serious?



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

- From By Schism Rent Asunder

heruamon on 15 December 2010
S.T.A.G.E. said:
heruamon said:
mantlepiecek said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
SecondWar said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You're going to be waiting a while for a new top notch IP from Microsoft.

Really? I thought the next one would be Codename:Kingdoms


Microsoft is only publishing the game. It isn't in-house and I havent seen gameplay. Pick another title. Its about as exclusive as the original Mass Effect.

what if they own the ip rights?  Nobody knows that yet.  In which case it would be just as exclusive as resistance or ratchet and clank.  


Ok....you're comparing a title from Crytek (who generally make games for themselves) to Insomniac who has since the PS1 era been making titles exclusively for Sony? They are third party, but are almost seen by the industry as an unofficial first party. Microsoft has never had that type of respect since entering the console industry.

thats cool, so sony's unofficial first party studio's are going multiplatform with their next game?  Thats some crazy logic man.  Insomniac going multiplatform just goes to show that historic trends don't mean anything when it comes to new ip.  


The question is which game you're talking about? Thats when I'll answer. Bungie is multiplatform, Ensemble is no more. They bought the rights to Ninja Blade....and nothing came from that. All they've got left is the top new IP of the gen they started with which is gears. Insomniac might be going multiplat, but they've always been faithful to Sony. I guess being third party they just want to make more money now. They've made console defining titles for Sony for three generations. Theres no crazy logic about that.

Insomniac isn't going completely multi-plat. Its only for one game.

LOL...until they see those sales on the 360...


Wait....you actually believe 360 sales will move Insomniac? If it hasn't done it already its not happening. They will do nothing exclusive for Microsoft, much like Bungie will continue to make exclusives for Microsoft.

HUH?  I'm not sure what you're saying...but I'm saying, they are working on a multiplatform game, and I believe it will see better sales, then what they have seen to-date, thus moving into the future they will make SURE that their self-owned multiplatform IP is the focus of their development house...is that better?



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

- From By Schism Rent Asunder

S.T.A.G.E. on 15 December 2010
Shadowblind said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
SecondWar said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You're going to be waiting a while for a new top notch IP from Microsoft.

Really? I thought the next one would be Codename:Kingdoms


Microsoft is only publishing the game. It isn't in-house and I havent seen gameplay. Pick another title. Its about as exclusive as the original Mass Effect.

what if they own the ip rights?  Nobody knows that yet.  In which case it would be just as exclusive as resistance or ratchet and clank.  


Ok....you're comparing a title from Crytek (who generally make games for themselves) to Insomniac who has since the PS1 era been making titles exclusively for Sony? They are third party, but are almost seen by the industry as an unofficial first party. Microsoft has never had that type of respect since entering the console industry.

thats cool, so sony's unofficial first party studio's are going multiplatform with their next game?  Thats some crazy logic man.  Insomniac going multiplatform just goes to show that historic trends don't mean anything when it comes to new ip.  


The question is which game you're talking about? Thats when I'll answer. Bungie is multiplatform, Ensemble is no more. They bought the rights to Ninja Blade....and nothing came from that. All they've got left is the top new IP of the gen they started with which is gears. Insomniac might be going multiplat, but they've always been faithful to Sony. I guess being third party they just want to make more money now. They've made console defining titles for Sony for three generations. Theres no crazy logic about that.

the crazy logic is where you say crytek can't be exclusive.  Who is to say that microsoft can't own the ip to kingdoms (especially since it is being co-developed).  

Since when did I even talk about Crytek being exclusive (Especially after all the crap with EA)? I never said Microsoft cannot own the IP to kingdoms. I stated it would be no more exclusive than the original Mass Effect. Good lord...lets hope PC doesn't get it either. 

Microsoft doesn't own the Mass Effect IP . . .

You are very confusing. I thought the argument was that later Kingdoms games might come out for other consoles, since thats what happened after the original Mass Effect. If Microsoft owns the Kingdoms IP, then that would never happen in an eternity of time unless Microsoft sells it.

I know Microsoft doesnt own the IP to Mass Effect. They just published the first game. Thats what they do best...publish. They've been awesome at it since before they entered the gaming realm. Microsoft publishes better than Nintendo and Sony combined, but they couldn't create a first party force to save their life. This is where Nintendo and Sony are better.



S.T.A.G.E. on 15 December 2010
heruamon said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
heruamon said:
mantlepiecek said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
gergroy said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
SecondWar said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You're going to be waiting a while for a new top notch IP from Microsoft.

Really? I thought the next one would be Codename:Kingdoms


Microsoft is only publishing the game. It isn't in-house and I havent seen gameplay. Pick another title. Its about as exclusive as the original Mass Effect.

what if they own the ip rights?  Nobody knows that yet.  In which case it would be just as exclusive as resistance or ratchet and clank.  


Ok....you're comparing a title from Crytek (who generally make games for themselves) to Insomniac who has since the PS1 era been making titles exclusively for Sony? They are third party, but are almost seen by the industry as an unofficial first party. Microsoft has never had that type of respect since entering the console industry.

thats cool, so sony's unofficial first party studio's are going multiplatform with their next game?  Thats some crazy logic man.  Insomniac going multiplatform just goes to show that historic trends don't mean anything when it comes to new ip.  


The question is which game you're talking about? Thats when I'll answer. Bungie is multiplatform, Ensemble is no more. They bought the rights to Ninja Blade....and nothing came from that. All they've got left is the top new IP of the gen they started with which is gears. Insomniac might be going multiplat, but they've always been faithful to Sony. I guess being third party they just want to make more money now. They've made console defining titles for Sony for three generations. Theres no crazy logic about that.

Insomniac isn't going completely multi-plat. Its only for one game.

LOL...until they see those sales on the 360...


Wait....you actually believe 360 sales will move Insomniac? If it hasn't done it already its not happening. They will do nothing exclusive for Microsoft, much like Bungie will continue to make exclusives for Microsoft.

HUH?  I'm not sure what you're saying...but I'm saying, they are working on a multiplatform game, and I believe it will see better sales, then what they have seen to-date, thus moving into the future they will make SURE that their self-owned multiplatform IP is the focus of their development house...is that better?


Only time can tell. My money says that if there is a  multiplat Insomniac will pull strings to make the PS3 version more appealing. Special DLC anyone? Sony seems to be getting the treatment Microsoft got earlier in the gen.