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Poor PS3 Sales Means Smaller Losses

"Actually, because the number of units sold was not as high as we hoped, the loss was better than our original expectation," Quotes from Sony’s CFO Nobuyuki Oneda.

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Why it won't work with the PS3 ? Easy.

N64 (Mar 97) : 6.12M

N64 (Mar 98) : 16.14M (YAY ! x2.64 !)

N64 (Mar 99) : 23.08M (x1.43 !! THIS IS MADN... oh, wait...)

N64 (Mar 00) : 29.57M (x1.28 !? OMG, where is the 10 year lifecycle ? and the 100M consoles ??)

N64 (Mar 01) : 32.42M (x1.1... I miss the good ol' 2x multiplier... :( )

 As the PS3 is seen as the Sony's N64 (many similarities), A x2 multiplier wouldn't mean anything specially good for them.



@TWRoO:

So, according to you, with:

PlayStation 3 Blu-Ray Games

Afrika - Rhino Studios
The Agency - Sony Online Entertainment
Big Time Revenge - Anygame Company
Bipedal Movement Simulation - Artdink
Brave Arms - Cellius
Buzz Quiz TV - Relentless Software
Chain Limit - Cellius
Coded Arms Assault - Konami
Digimon World Online - Namco Bandai
Disgaea 3 - Nippon Ichi
DC Universe - Sony Online Entertainment
Driver - Reflections Interactive
Eight Days - Sony Computer Entertainment London
Hot Shots Golf 5 - Clap Hanz/Sony Computer Entertainment International
Eyedentify - Sony Computer Entertainment Japan
Final Fantasy XIII - Square Enix (Maybe 2009)
Free Realms - Sony Online Entertainment
The Getaway 3 - Sony Computer Entertainment London
God of War 3 - Sony Computer Entertainment Santa Monica Studio (Maybe 2009)
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue - Polyphony Digital Entertainment (Maybe 2007)
Gran Turismo 5 - Polyphony Digital Entertainment
Haze - Free Radical Design (Maybe 07, hasn't been delayed... yet)
Heavy Rain - Quantic Dream
Infamous - Sucker Punch Studios
Killzone 2 - Guerilla Games
LittleBigPlanet - Media Molecule
Metal Gear Online - Kojima Productions
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots - Kojima Productions
MotorStorm 2 - Evolution studio
Naruto: PS3 project - CyberConnect2
Resistance: Fall of Man 2 - Insomniac
Singstar - Sony Computer Entertainment London
Socom: Confrontation - Slant Six Games
Tekken 6 - Namco Bandai
Valkyrie The Battlefield - Sega
Wardevil (Maybe 09) - Digi-Guys
White Knight Story - Level5
Yakuza 3 - Sega

PlayStation Network Titles:

Echochrome
Wipeout HD
Dark Mist
More Eyetoy Games

Multiplatform Games with XBOX 360:

Ace Combat 6
Beautiful Katamari
Devil may Cry 4
Dynasty Warriors 6
Eternal Sonata
Grand Theft Auto 4
Silent Hill V
The Last Remnant

PS3 will sell as much as x360 DID in 2007?

And wii is NOT a HD console, why you at all mention it? Wii is in different league, people who want a HD experience DON`T BUY Wii.

And yes, a expect PS3 to sell around 15-20 mln. by the 31th March 2009 with ALL these games coming.
Though, we don`t even know yet what impact in sales did demo of GT5 in Japan. =)



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

CrazzyMan said:
@omgwtfbbq:

IT WORKED TWICE WITH PSone and PS2. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT??? TWICE.
NOW ANSWER, WHY IT WON`T WORK WITH PS3???

@steverhcp02:
only 2008 will show, who IS REAL WINNER in this Console war.

XBOX 360 DOUBLED IT SALES IN 22 WEEKS!!!

AUGUST 7TH 2006 IT WAS AT 4,000,000

22 WEEKS LATER IT WAS T 8 MILLION!! OMG FUK*ING ROXORS!!! XBOX 360 DOMINATION STARTED IN 2006!!!

PS2 AND PSX TOOK A FULL YEAR TO DOUBLE!!! 360 DOES IN 22 WEEKS!!! OMG!!! 

I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M WRITTING IN CAPS BUT WHO CARES!!

 

*blah blah blah* 

 



Proud Member of GAIBoWS (Gamers Against Irrational Bans of Weezy & Squilliam)

                   

@kuraobi:
AGAIN, if console on it 2nd-3rd year don`t INCREASE in sales TWICE, it won`t WIN by 90%.

N64 (Mar 97) : 6.12M

N64 (Mar 98) : 16.14M (YAY ! x2.64 !)

N64 (Mar 99) : 23.08M (x1.43 !! THIS IS MADN... oh, wait...)
so.. N64 = Wii? =))
Anyway, as you can see sales DECREASED on 3rd YEAR of N64.
THAT`s WHY IT LOST.

@gebx:
LOL, IT`S NOT ABOUT WEEKS, IT`S ABOUT YEARS.
Only YEARS HAVE EFFECT on who will WIN Console war.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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Actually, the Xbox 360 doubled it in 1 sec and tripled it in 2 seconds. After they sold the first one ever, it took a full second to sell the second one. OMG!! Doubled the sales. Then when the third one sold it had immidiately tripled the sales!! OMG!!!



omgwtfbbq said:
CrazzyMan said:
@omgwtfbbq:

The system, which on it`s second year doubles it`s lifetime sales, ALWAYS WIN.

1) x360 by the end 2006 sold LESS then 8 mln. consoles. 7,96 mln.
PS3 is going to do around 8,5 mln.

2) it looks like, x360 console 2nd year sales won`t pass it`s lifetime sales, mean that console FAILED.

Hardware Shipments:
PSone:
Sony Mar-1996 - 4.26 mln.
Sony Mar-1997 - 13.50 mln. and MORE then twice.
Sony Mar-1998 - 32.82 mln. -> around 30 mln. and MORE then twice
Sony Mar-1999 - 54.42 mln.

PS2:
Sony Mar-2001 - 10.61 mln.
Sony Mar-2002 - 28.68 mln. -> around 30 mln. and MORE then twice
Sony Mar-2003 - 51.20 mln.

PS3:
Sony Mar-2008 - i expect 10,57 mln.
Sony Mar-2009 - i expect 25,32 mln. -> around 30 mln. and ATLEAST 1,5 MORE

X360:
Microsoft Mar-2007 - 10.94 mln.
Microsoft Mar-2008 - i expect 18,93 mln. -> NOWHERE NEAR CLOSE TO 30 mln. and LESS then twice

It looks like, even shipments will be lower.
And that means X360 DEFINETELY WON`T WIN.

Where's FishyJoe when you need his sig?

Look, stop pulling out this load of rubbish all the time. This is the same crap Bill Gates was spewing when he said "the first console to 10 million always wins". It's just a random statistic that means nothing. In fact, look at this. I own a Gameboy, PS1, a DS, and a Wii. I could easily say "The game system I buy always wins." This doesn't mean that me owning a system means I win.

When you can tell me what the phrase "cum hoc ergo propter hoc" means then I'll listen to what you have to say because every single post you ever make screams of logical fallacy.

Now until you learn about the real world, please stop spamming the threads with your useless statistic. We've all seen it. We all know it's bollocks. Go away.

 

 

 The cool thing here is that you've done the same thing.  You claimed that the system that wins the first year always wins.  This is no more relevant and no less cherry picking than saying that the system that wins always doubles its year over year sales for the first 2 years.  Welcome to hypocrisyland, enjoy your stay.



@CrazzyMan : Yeah and the 360 has no HD player so people who want a HD game+movie experience don't buy a 360... like that everyone is in it's own league, fighting against itself.
Trying to disqualify the Wii because it's not HD is equivalent to saying that Wii sales have no influence on PS3/360, and that if Wii didn't exist, PS3 and 360 would have the exact same sales.



omgwtfbbq said:
CrazzyMan said:
@omgwtfbbq:

The system, which on it`s second year doubles it`s lifetime sales, ALWAYS WIN.

1) x360 by the end 2006 sold LESS then 8 mln. consoles. 7,96 mln.
PS3 is going to do around 8,5 mln.

2) it looks like, x360 console 2nd year sales won`t pass it`s lifetime sales, mean that console FAILED.

Hardware Shipments:
PSone:
Sony Mar-1996 - 4.26 mln.
Sony Mar-1997 - 13.50 mln. and MORE then twice.
Sony Mar-1998 - 32.82 mln. -> around 30 mln. and MORE then twice
Sony Mar-1999 - 54.42 mln.

PS2:
Sony Mar-2001 - 10.61 mln.
Sony Mar-2002 - 28.68 mln. -> around 30 mln. and MORE then twice
Sony Mar-2003 - 51.20 mln.

PS3:
Sony Mar-2008 - i expect 10,57 mln.
Sony Mar-2009 - i expect 25,32 mln. -> around 30 mln. and ATLEAST 1,5 MORE

X360:
Microsoft Mar-2007 - 10.94 mln.
Microsoft Mar-2008 - i expect 18,93 mln. -> NOWHERE NEAR CLOSE TO 30 mln. and LESS then twice

It looks like, even shipments will be lower.
And that means X360 DEFINETELY WON`T WIN.

Where's FishyJoe when you need his sig?

Look, stop pulling out this load of rubbish all the time. This is the same crap Bill Gates was spewing when he said "the first console to 10 million always wins". It's just a random statistic that means nothing. In fact, look at this. I own a Gameboy, PS1, a DS, and a Wii. I could easily say "The game system I buy always wins." This doesn't mean that me owning a system means I win.

When you can tell me what the phrase "cum hoc ergo propter hoc" means then I'll listen to what you have to say because every single post you ever make screams of logical fallacy.

Now until you learn about the real world, please stop spamming the threads with your useless statistic. We've all seen it. We all know it's bollocks. Go away.

 

 

Also, quoting a dead language doesn't make you smart. Especially if the Latin phrase isn't in common use today, it just makes you look pretentious. "cum hoc ergo propter hoc" isn't anymore clever than "Correlation does not imply causation."

 



@CrazzyMan : So you're basically admitting you're wrong, because you said that if PS3 LTD sales double between Mar 08 and Mar 09, then it'll be the new PS2 in terms of sales. You never mentioned anything about the 3rd year.

Obviously if the PS3 doubles it LTD sales every year for the next 4 years, it will probably beat even the Wii...