Kasz216 said:
I... somehow doubt that. Also, I don't remember the jewish people firing rockets at Nazis from concentration camps. Nor do I recall Israel making use of gas chambers to intentionally kill everyone. |
couldn't of said it better
Kasz216 said:
I... somehow doubt that. Also, I don't remember the jewish people firing rockets at Nazis from concentration camps. Nor do I recall Israel making use of gas chambers to intentionally kill everyone. |
couldn't of said it better
This has been going on for decades. Countless Arabs (Christian and Muslim) have lost homes in and around Jerusalem by force, as well as other areas all throughout the illegally occupied terror-itories.
Those of you who continuously fall back on the attacks of Arabs on Israel are foolish and naive. Settlers and the IDF have been doing the same or worse to Christian and Muslim Arabs the day after the 1967 war was finished.
Jewish terrorist gangs of the Irgun and Stern Gang did far worse pre-Israel, including the biblical style full destruction of a Palestinian village just before Jewish-European immigrants illegally declared statehood.
Its been a 80 year bloody history between these two groups as one migrated and has been slowly removing the other by force. Hopefully, Israel will have an honest leader someday and recognize the hypocrisy that has been its creation and the dehumanization of the Palestinian people.
chriscox1121 said:
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Actually the Arabs in Gaza can't get out and they do get mass murdered all the time from Israeli jets and random war machines.
Israel isn't stupid enough to gas the place, so they use the lies of "defence" to strategically murder the people directly with weapons or indirectly with inhumane living conditions, starvation, medical shortage, no electricity/heat/water, etc.
superchunk said:
Israel isn't stupid enough to gas the place, so they use the lies of "defence" to strategically murder the people directly with weapons or indirectly with inhumane living conditions, starvation, medical shortage, no electricity/heat/water, etc. |
Proof?
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RageBot said:
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The blockades, need for secret tunnels to Egypt, and use of banned-by-international-law weaponry on the part of the Israelis is proof. While i disagree that they are deliberately killing the Palestinian people, they certainly have no qualms over use of extremely excessive force or of random civilian death

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Mr Khan said:
The blockades, need for secret tunnels to Egypt, and use of banned-by-international-law weaponry on the part of the Israelis is proof. While i disagree that they are deliberately killing the Palestinian people, they certainly have no qualms over use of extremely excessive force or of random civilian death |
So... do you think Israel should just end the blockade, and let Iran and other hostile states just smuggle tons of ammunition and explosives into gaza, allow terrorists to just walk into Israel, and let a new Intifada erupt?
Are you aware of the fact that the main thing being smuggled in these tunnels is ammunition? there's no real poverty in Gaza, pepole aren't dying of hunger over there
Have any country ever, in the history of the world did something like that? Should Israel endanger dozens, hundrerds or even thousands of it's civilians life,
And yes, the Israeli army have used excessive force at times, but pretty much every army in history have done the same, the US army did far more terrible things to innocents and captives in Iraq, apparently, and the only reason that other western states aren't doing similar things is probably that none of them is actually engaged in an armed confrontation.
Also, it is incredibly hard for the Israeli military to avoid causing civilian casualties among the Palastinians, due to the fact that Hamas tries to fire rockets and engage in combat from areas with dense civilian population, because for an oranization like Hamas, every Jew that dies is a reason to celebrate and every Palestinian that dies is something to flaunt for the media.
As you can see here, a UK war veteran who was actually in Gaza (on the behalf of the UN) finds that the IDF is among the most humane military forces in the world.
The situation is obviously not as black and white as it seems from either point of view, it's obvious that Israel is causing harm to the Palestinians, however, it really cannot be avoided, as long as Israel is constantly threatend by terrorists, it can't really open the borders to Gaza, since the risks are too high.
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RageBot said:
Have any country ever, in the history of the world did something like that? Should Israel endanger dozens, hundrerds or even thousands of it's civilians life, And yes, the Israeli army have used excessive force at times, but pretty much every army in history have done the same, the US army did far more terrible things to innocents and captives in Iraq, apparently, and the only reason that other western states aren't doing similar things is probably that none of them is actually engaged in an armed confrontation. Also, it is incredibly hard for the Israeli military to avoid causing civilian casualties among the Palastinians, due to the fact that Hamas tries to fire rockets and engage in combat from areas with dense civilian population, because for an oranization like Hamas, every Jew that dies is a reason to celebrate and every Palestinian that dies is something to flaunt for the media.
As you can see here, a UK war veteran who was actually in Gaza (on the behalf of the UN) finds that the IDF is among the most humane military forces in the world.
The situation is obviously not as black and white as it seems from either point of view, it's obvious that Israel is causing harm to the Palestinians, however, it really cannot be avoided, as long as Israel is constantly threatend by terrorists, it can't really open the borders to Gaza, since the risks are too high. |
I'm not saying they should, nor shifting the blame away from Hamas, but you asked for proof that Arabs can't get out of the Gaza Strip, and it's there
And the IDF is definitely more disciplined than i made them sound, certainly. Much as i dislike Israel, their military is definitely top-notch in a way that even the U.S. could envy in a way, but what that disciplined force is being used for... well...

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Mr Khan said:
I'm not saying they should, nor shifting the blame away from Hamas, but you asked for proof that Arabs can't get out of the Gaza Strip, and it's there And the IDF is definitely more disciplined than i made them sound, certainly. Much as i dislike Israel, their military is definitely top-notch in a way that even the U.S. could envy in a way, but what that disciplined force is being used for... well... |
I think he meant more the "indiscriminatly killing people in a stealth holocaust" like superchunk seems to think.

| Mr Khan said: I'm not saying they should, nor shifting the blame away from Hamas, but you asked for proof that Arabs can't get out of the Gaza Strip, and it's there And the IDF is definitely more disciplined than i made them sound, certainly. Much as i dislike Israel, their military is definitely top-notch in a way that even the U.S. could envy in a way, but what that disciplined force is being used for... well... |
I actually wanted proof only for this part:
"and they do get mass murdered all the time from Israeli jets and random war machines."
But bolded the entire line for some reason...
The circumstances in which civilian casualties occur in the Gaza Strip are of such kind that the ones who are really up to blame are Hamas and other organization who only use the lives, and deaths, of Palestinians to furter improve their image in the media.
As long as there isn't some assualt on Israeli civilians (by firing rockets or other measures), and as long as they don't stand near Hamas leaders (which for reasons I described earlier, is very hard for the Palestinians), Palestinians have little reason to fear for their lives (outside of being attacked by the Hamas)
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