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PS2 vs Wii vs Others (ShovelWare)

The PS2 has more! 60 59.41%
 
The Wii has more! 32 31.68%
 
The PS3 has more! 6 5.94%
 
The Xbox 360 has more! 3 2.97%
 
Total:101

LOL  THe Wii has the most shovelware, its not even a contest. THe Wii thrives of shovelware. THe PS2 cant have that much shovelware becaue the fact is 3rd party devs actually CARED about PS2 and put the best quality games on it. WHere the Wii gets so little good 3rd party support its kind of funny. For every bad shovel game on PS2 you got about 3 real good games. FOr Wii for every ten shovelware games you get 1 good one. Not to mention that for some reason when you walk in a store its most Barbie and Icarly and Imaginez taking up shelf space. No other console ever had that problem, you werent gonna find that much crap on shelves when it came to PS2. THere were far too many good games to put on shelves. Oh and people who think that PS360 will end up like that??? Not gonna happen, most Move games are gonna be hybrid. Any shovelware you will see will mostly be on PSN. Thats where it belongs keep that crap dirt cheap and out of the public eye, that way Sony doesnt fall into the shovelware shelf crap. Not sure about MS, I would imagine it would be too expensive to just throw a bunch of crap Kinect games to the market



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In total figures the PS2 easily. 

In percentaged relation to its own good games the Wii would win this contest by far.

Just my experience after updating multiple ten thousands of games.

Fun fact: both Systems are the ones I own the most games for.

I guess I can't live without my weekly dose of crappy games. 



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Shovelware goes where the most people are. It doesn't matter who the people are either, and it's been this way long before the PS2 or the Wii came along.

Wikipedia (yeah, I know) claims that the PS2 has 2,015 games in its library as of January 2010. It still gets games released today, but they usually aren't high quality ones, and they don't get much coverage. These new games are almost exclusively shovelware.

Of those 2,015, only a fraction would be the good games, the largest chunk would be the average games, and another small fraction would be the bad games (and this is where the shovelware comes in, as it won't be the highly rated games). Metacritic (as imperfect as it can be) has 514 PS2 games rated green, to give you an idea of the ratio of good to average to bad here (So 25.5% of the PS2's library garnered enough praise to be considered good). That still leaves 1,501 games to be split between average and bad. Even if ~1,000 of those were average (which is a pretty high amount to say the least), that still leaves ~500 games which would be bad.

The trouble is you can't use something like Metacritic for the truly bad games, because so many of them don't even get picked up by review sites, thus they can never appear on such a website.

Meanwhile, Wiki also claim the Wii has 962 games as of November 14th. The smaller the total, the smaller the ultimate divisions of good/average/bad will be. It's just pure logic. 170 Wii games have the green rating from Metacritic. That's 17.7%, which isn't that different in the grand scheme of things. Assuming again that the 'average' games have the largest section, you're looking at a similar number of bad Wii games as there are good, if not slightly more.

Given how many games there are left in the PS2's library after taking out the good games, I'd find it hard to believe that there are less than 200 of those that would be the bad ones. Using sheer logic, it has to be the PS2, more down to the fact that it had so many games released for it (and continue to be released for it) rather than anything else.

Ask the question in another few years when the Wii gets closer to the PS2's sheer number of releases, and the outcome might be different, as the Wii just doesn't get as many good games to help balance things out, but that's not a topic for this thread.



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@milkyjoe  holy crap, way to put it in perspective, I retract my statement, however you say that the percentage of good games for Wii vs. PS2 is not that much of a difference but i would have to disagree. its 25% vs. 17%. 3rd parties dont really give a crap about Wii and Ninty could only make so much games. If this trend with Wii continues I could see that the Wii at the end of its cycle will not have a great "good" games percentage



Most of Wii's shovelware (the crap from companies like Destineer, Data Design, Conspiracy, etc) is actually PS2 ports.  A lot of the rest is also ported from systems like PC or PSP.... Wii actually has pretty few original shovelware efforts compared to past leading systems.

WiiWare also seems to have become shomething of a dumping ground for shitty mobile/iOS ports. :/



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jarrod said:

Most of Wii's shovelware (the crap from companies like Destineer, Data Design, Conspiracy, etc) is actually PS2 ports.  A lot of the rest is also ported from systems like PC or PSP.... Wii actually has pretty few original shovelware efforts compared to past leading systems.

WiiWare also seems to have become shomething of a dumping ground for shitty mobile/iOS ports. :/


So Wii is double shovelware?? Can't even make his own shovelware.



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oliist said:

In total figures the PS2 easily. 

In percentaged relation to its own good games the Wii would win this contest by far.

Just my experience after updating multiple ten thousands of games.

Fun fact: both Systems are the ones I own the most games for.

I guess I can't live without my weekly dose of crappy games. 


Haha true XD ur VG score is like waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah O_O



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oniyide said:

@milkyjoe  holy crap, way to put it in perspective, I retract my statement, however you say that the percentage of good games for Wii vs. PS2 is not that much of a difference but i would have to disagree. its 25% vs. 17%. 3rd parties dont really give a crap about Wii and Ninty could only make so much games. If this trend with Wii continues I could see that the Wii at the end of its cycle will not have a great "good" games percentage


Aaaaah i can see it know ^.^



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