MrBubbles said:
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My bad, I must have read that on another part. All wanted people have a red notice.
Still, that is contacting 188 countries, seeking for an arrest or a provisional arrest. For sex crimes? Seriously?
MrBubbles said:
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My bad, I must have read that on another part. All wanted people have a red notice.
Still, that is contacting 188 countries, seeking for an arrest or a provisional arrest. For sex crimes? Seriously?
RageBot said:
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Every life saved is really only token to use in negotiation, for events we can be prepared for or never see coming. They may some 10000 american lives but the US instigated the Islamophobia histeria.
Funding missiles to iraq in 80's with Reagan, allowing Iraq to invade kuwait. Then finishing off with play of intervention.
All I can say any lives saved by these government ploys does not seem positive to me only more conspiracy involved.

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benao87 said:
My bad, I must have read that on another part. All wanted people have a red notice. Still, that is contacting 188 countries, seeking for an arrest or a provisional arrest. For sex crimes? Seriously?
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he regularly travels internationally, his current whereabouts are uncertain, and he was even offered refuge in a third world country(although the offer has since been rescinded). seems like the logical course to me.
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Apparently the USA is going to try and prosecute for espionage. Seriously?
I didn't realise that the First Amendment was conditional on how pissed off the government was.

-ku- said:
Funding missiles to iraq in 80's with Reagan, allowing Iraq to invade kuwait. Then finishing off with play of intervention. All I can say any lives saved by these government ploys does not seem positive to me only more conspiracy involved. |
Maybe it's just me, but didn't they discover evidence that Iraq was actually "right" in invading kuwait because they were taking part in "slant drilling".

These leaks are mostly just confirmation what we suspected as truth to being with.
I.E. You know that b**** that's been spreading false rumours about you but she won't admit to your face. Now, she can't deny with evidence.
| Rath said: Apparently the USA is going to try and prosecute for espionage. Seriously? I didn't realise that the First Amendment was conditional on how pissed off the government was. |
The First Ammenedment stops at the moment your speech is likely to cause peoples deaths. You could argue that the clear and present danger rule is broken by giving out all sorts of information like this.
Basically all they would have to do is find a lawless act committed due to these actions due to his intent. Which, probably wouldn't be that hard.
In general what he did I think itself is illegal. He published state secrets. Not sure if it's illegal for a non us citizen though.
In general though, posting classfied info = getting in trouble in any country you are a part of.

Kasz216 said:
Basically all they would have to do is find a lawless act committed due to these actions due to his intent. Which, probably wouldn't be that hard. In general what he did I think itself is illegal. He published state secrets. Not sure if it's illegal for a non us citizen though. In general though, posting classfied info = getting in trouble in any country you are a part of. |
I think leaking the information is illegal, publishing it is not. Assange has no responsibility to the US government, unlike the person who gave him this information. I don't believe it would be illegal even for a US citizen to do what he did.
Also there is no wayany of the information released so far fails the clear and present danger test.

Rath said:
I think leaking the information is illegal, publishing it is not. Assange has no responsibility to the US government, unlike the person who gave him this information. I don't believe it would be illegal even for a US citizen to do what he did. Also there is no wayany of the information released so far fails the clear and present danger test. |
Not yet. Depends what else was leaked.
Still not sure it's not illegal though. Publishing any state's state secrets I think is illegal citizen or not.
Just how killing someone is illegal if you are a citizen or not.
It's really just more of a jurisdiction reason I think.

Publishing state secrets is not illegal in the US. Look it up. Leaking is. But receiving information and publishing, no matter how sensitive that information is, isn't. If it was, the press would be in a terrible place given how many political scandals they've caused through publication of very sensitive, and often classified, information.
As it stands, Wikileaks have broken no US laws, and it will be very difficult to secure a prosecution using the (relic that is the) Espionage Act. It will require: 1) that proof be supplied that Wikileaks is in receipt of a foreign government, and 2) that it conspired with a US governmental representative to leak the material. Neither of these points are in place. 1) Wikileaks has never been accused of being in contact with non-US foreign powers (although Iran has claimed it is backed by the US, ironically). 2) The information Wikileaks uses is always secured anonymously, ensuring Wikileaks is basically just an outlet for information, much like a newspaper.
In short, any claims of potential prosecution against Wikileaks using the US Espionage Act are just that: claims.
It's most likely bluster aimed to intimidate other potential leakers.