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STEKSTAV on 27 November 2010

All MS really need though if they get stuck with the same old limitations in software, is to add a controller.. and whoopla.. they have an advanced version of the PS MOVE. Just because there's no controller today, dosen't mean there can't be one tomorrow.

From the article though, one can see why SONY decided to move away from the tech, having a great deal of experience with the concept of camera focused games. And it wouldn't be as big of a leap in expanding their userbase with a Kienct type device, which made them look at what other options they had.



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Kennyheart on 27 November 2010
Ldn.se said:

This needs to happen!



OntheEdgeofthemirror on 27 November 2010
zgamer5 said:
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
zgamer5 said:
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:

Pretty much confirmed what I already knew about kinect, it's limitations are abysmal and it really isn't going to get any better then we've already seen, Sony knows tech, MS doesn't, the fact Sony passed on 3D cameras (having the most experience with camera games) speaks volumes of why it isn't that good for games


sony have always tried to appeal to hardcore and casual, they havent done that a lot this gen to the casual, but the appeal they try to acheive is one of the reasons they didnt continue advanving on the eye toy tech. while ms now are appealing to both we already know by next years line up that its going to hurt a fanbase, even though hardcore kinect titles are coming out, im sure everyone would rather play it with a controller.

I have to ask what hardcore kinect titles, and I think people are getting the wrong idea about causals, kinect launch games maybe okay and fun for the start but they will expect alot more soon, and where Nintendo delivered I don't think MS can, right now MS is hiding behind the wow factor with it's games, people forgive the games because the tech is new in their minds, but in a few months they won't be so forgiving 


steel battalion, the star wars games, and many other games, ms showed i think 4 kinect titles at tokyo game show. as for the grab on the casuals it gave it a boost but didnt take much from the wii.

Don't say many more when they're aren't any, and I wouldn't bank on any games sharing kinect/normal controls they already canceled a few that were going to (fable the only one I can think of right now) as for the starwars game, I've seen it and I don't see how that isn't casual other then maybe the story/graphics and we've yet to see if it will work at all, never mind well



OntheEdgeofthemirror on 27 November 2010
ramses01 said:
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
ramses01 said:

Basically, it sounds like Sony wasn't willing to pay to solve the software challenges.  They really can't compete with the amount resources that MS can afford to throw at the software research side to support Kinect.  Plus, Kinect fits with MS' whole natural user interface play.   So just like Sony got extra benefit from using bluray, MS will get extra benefit from kinect.

If you read the article it seems pretty clear that 3D cameras don't really have any extra benefit for gaming, other then the initial wow factor anyways, I'd go so far to say that MS fell for the wow factor themselves and realized too late (if at all) that it isn't going to work like they thought, I think MS thought about marketing while pursuing kinect and kinda forgot about the fact the technology has to work 

You are making my point for me.  Sony can't or won't make it work.  MS can through software.  Also, the article was mistaken about the resolution of the camera.  It is not 320x240, it is 640x480 as can be seen from the PC hacks.  Kinect currently only uses lower resolution, but there is no reason it can use the higher resolution.

If it could why aren't they and I'm pretty sure a tech guy would know what tech is in kinect, and NO MS CAN'T make it work, they haven't and they won't they are just making people like you think they can to get sales before you people finally see the obvious truth, MS is hiding the faults of the hardware with software but they can't do that for every game, every game is on rails or you don't move in a 3D plane all you are going to get is more of the same crap that was on launch 



OntheEdgeofthemirror on 27 November 2010
STEKSTAV said:

All MS really need though if they get stuck with the same old limitations in software, is to add a controller.. and whoopla.. they have an advanced version of the PS MOVE. Just because there's no controller today, dosen't mean there can't be one tomorrow.

From the article though, one can see why SONY decided to move away from the tech, having a great deal of experience with the concept of camera focused games. And it wouldn't be as big of a leap in expanding their userbase with a Kienct type device, which made them look at what other options they had.

If MS turned around and copied Sony after bashing them and promoting controller-less gaming I think even the most dense of consumers would call foul, not to mention the whole price point issue 



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A203D on 27 November 2010
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
ramses01 said:
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
ramses01 said:

Basically, it sounds like Sony wasn't willing to pay to solve the software challenges.  They really can't compete with the amount resources that MS can afford to throw at the software research side to support Kinect.  Plus, Kinect fits with MS' whole natural user interface play.   So just like Sony got extra benefit from using bluray, MS will get extra benefit from kinect.

If you read the article it seems pretty clear that 3D cameras don't really have any extra benefit for gaming, other then the initial wow factor anyways, I'd go so far to say that MS fell for the wow factor themselves and realized too late (if at all) that it isn't going to work like they thought, I think MS thought about marketing while pursuing kinect and kinda forgot about the fact the technology has to work 

You are making my point for me.  Sony can't or won't make it work.  MS can through software.  Also, the article was mistaken about the resolution of the camera.  It is not 320x240, it is 640x480 as can be seen from the PC hacks.  Kinect currently only uses lower resolution, but there is no reason it can use the higher resolution.

If it could why aren't they and I'm pretty sure a tech guy would know what tech is in kinect, and NO MS CAN'T make it work, they haven't and they won't they are just making people like you think they can to get sales before you people finally see the obvious truth, MS is hiding the faults of the hardware with software but they can't do that for every game, every game is on rails or you don't move in a 3D plane all you are going to get is more of the same crap that was on launch 

These are harsh comments, but tbh, in my own words i would agree. i think microsoft are trying to hide their cards because they've actully bluffed. we keep hearing about how this is for games we cant imagine, but clearly microsoft and other 3rd parties cant imagine anything either.



zgamer5 on 27 November 2010
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
ramses01 said:
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
ramses01 said:

Basically, it sounds like Sony wasn't willing to pay to solve the software challenges.  They really can't compete with the amount resources that MS can afford to throw at the software research side to support Kinect.  Plus, Kinect fits with MS' whole natural user interface play.   So just like Sony got extra benefit from using bluray, MS will get extra benefit from kinect.

If you read the article it seems pretty clear that 3D cameras don't really have any extra benefit for gaming, other then the initial wow factor anyways, I'd go so far to say that MS fell for the wow factor themselves and realized too late (if at all) that it isn't going to work like they thought, I think MS thought about marketing while pursuing kinect and kinda forgot about the fact the technology has to work

You are making my point for me.  Sony can't or won't make it work.  MS can through software.  Also, the article was mistaken about the resolution of the camera.  It is not 320x240, it is 640x480 as can be seen from the PC hacks.  Kinect currently only uses lower resolution, but there is no reason it can use the higher resolution.

If it could why aren't they and I'm pretty sure a tech guy would know what tech is in kinect, and NO MS CAN'T make it work, they haven't and they won't they are just making people like you think they can to get sales before you people finally see the obvious truth, MS is hiding the faults of the hardware with software but they can't do that for every game, every game is on rails or you don't move in a 3D plane all you are going to get is more of the same crap that was on launch 

yes their are but i dont know their names. i dont care about the kinect titles i dont own kinect and i dont have a 360, weather they are casual or not is not the buisness of this thread.



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ramses01 on 27 November 2010
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
ramses01 said:
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
ramses01 said:

Basically, it sounds like Sony wasn't willing to pay to solve the software challenges.  They really can't compete with the amount resources that MS can afford to throw at the software research side to support Kinect.  Plus, Kinect fits with MS' whole natural user interface play.   So just like Sony got extra benefit from using bluray, MS will get extra benefit from kinect.

If you read the article it seems pretty clear that 3D cameras don't really have any extra benefit for gaming, other then the initial wow factor anyways, I'd go so far to say that MS fell for the wow factor themselves and realized too late (if at all) that it isn't going to work like they thought, I think MS thought about marketing while pursuing kinect and kinda forgot about the fact the technology has to work 

You are making my point for me.  Sony can't or won't make it work.  MS can through software.  Also, the article was mistaken about the resolution of the camera.  It is not 320x240, it is 640x480 as can be seen from the PC hacks.  Kinect currently only uses lower resolution, but there is no reason it can use the higher resolution.

If it could why aren't they and I'm pretty sure a tech guy would know what tech is in kinect, and NO MS CAN'T make it work, they haven't and they won't they are just making people like you think they can to get sales before you people finally see the obvious truth, MS is hiding the faults of the hardware with software but they can't do that for every game, every game is on rails or you don't move in a 3D plane all you are going to get is more of the same crap that was on launch 

Of course MS can make it work.  It is a software problem which is what MS is good at.  It is working great now and will only get better over time.



Maynard_Tool on 27 November 2010

Just like they passed on motion controller technology? O.o



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M.U.G.E.N on 27 November 2010
Maynard_Tool said:

Just like they passed on motion controller technology? O.o


Like with Eyetoy? O.o



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