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disolitude said:

You can't have threads like this

"People are wrong to expect amazing graphix from GT5 when the gameplay only matters"

followed by

"Patch coming to improve performance"

Looks like you're spinning every possible angle...

Im sure the graphics are fine, and gamplay is stellar. GT5 doesn't need any excuses...

The problem people have here is that, although the game looks better than any other racing games of its kind, they wanted it to be technically perfect. I mean, why isn't it enough that the game looks better than the competition?  Isn't that an achievement in itself, considering how good Forza 3 looks?

No matter how awesome it looks, people are nitpicking the small technical aspects that aren't pristine.  Aspects that they wouldn't even bother tearing apart in other games, or at least, wouldn't make such a fuss about it.

Quite sad since the game is awesome and looks better than any other racing games this gen, as far as I'm concerned.



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crissindahouse said

3. if polyphony wouldn't show all those trailers with "fake" graphics, the reviewers wouldn't expect those graphics. so it's their own fault. i mean, why do the show those crazy trailers? because they will say to the world: "our game looks unbelievable great". so if the try to say this to us to get higher sales, they should give us those graphics or they get bad critics for it.


What dev doesn't do this? Pretty much all screenshots released by devs are bullshots. It's people on the forums that are too stupid to realize this and are already goin "HERPDERP GAME LOOKS AMAZING".Then they start hyping the game's visuals to death. Once actual ingame shots are released, it's only then that they see that the game looks alot shittier than they though.

As for those "crazy trailers", again, what dev doesn't do this? People are always quick to judge by a game by it's trailer, which is always gonna make a game look and sound x100 better.

Moral of the story: People are stupid. Everyone should do themselves a favor and wait till they see high-quality footage on youtube before really judging.....they'll be alot less disappointed, especially considering that the trend of devs releasing bullshots isn't gonna end anytime soon.

 

On a random note, GT5 looks stupidly awesome with motion blur and the HUD turned off. Too bad it was just trailer enhancement though =/



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CGI-Quality said:

Why does it bother you so much? Ever hear of ignoring what you don't want to hear? You're in here attempting to give orders when you could disregard it altogether.

You always talk about "fanboy ammo". It's not a big deal if you give it no attention.


You really aren't one to talk. You seemed to get all annoyed by my joke post in the Jeuxvideo thread...



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CGI-Quality said:

Err...? Don't recall. Link?


http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3768140 

 

And I just got a great idea for a thread! :D



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CGI-Quality said:

Fair enough.  Didn't know you were just messin'.


I'm always messing >:l

 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=120231Proof



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I don't want to be that guy to say it but, GT5 was hyped as some graphical powerhouse that was going to widen the gap between it and other racers so graphics not matter in this case is some would call hypocrisy.



It's a racing game. There isn't a "story mode" or any "characters" that you can talk about and/or critisize. There is only gameplay, content, and graphics. Cars are all about being flashy (especially luxury cars) and a game like GT tries simulating that as much as possible. I think graphics are very important in a game like GT5.

That being said, GT5 has amazing graphics. I don't know what some people are complaining about.



ethomaz said:

Good article that expresses exactly my feeling about the reviews I read on the Internet.

 

Gran Turismo 5- Since When do Graphics Make the Game?
By: Anthony Accinelli

I'm disappointed. Not with Gran Turismo 5 mind you, but with gamers across the board. Nearly every article I have read is either a graphics comparison, an opinion piece on how terrible non-premium cars look, or a combination of the two. Apparently the way the game looks is far more important than the way it plays. On second thought, I'm not disappointed. I'm pissed.

Everyone needs to stop with the graphics comparisons and focus on what matters: how it plays. I personally drive a 2010 Subaru WRX. When I could afford it in game I purchased it and was blown away at the similarities. The way it sounded, the exterior and interior details, the horsepower upgrades and how exact they would be, the body roll, acceleration feel (especially in cockpit view), and the overall sense of speed you feel when driving. Sure, the shadow on the ground can be a tad pixelated, but guess what? I don't fucking care. The car drives as close to the real life version as one could ever hope.

Thing is, it doesn't stop there. Even the standard cars run like their real life counterparts. Regardless of what you may have read, they are still full of detail. The 1996 240 sx moves the exact way it should. The first car we purchased, a 2002 Celica sounded and performed precisely as I remember (girlfriend in high school drove one). The tracks are incredibly smooth. Framerate never skips, even while driving through tunnels and watching the lights stream above your car at 167 mph. Corners are banked perfectly, giving advantage to a veteran driver who knows the line and keeps all four tires firmly planted. Drafting the car in front of you creates a noticeable slipstream that when used properly will take a massive chunk out of your time.

The name of the game isn't "Gran Turismo 5: The Most Photo Realistic Racing Game".  It's time for reviewers to stop focusing on graphics and start focusing on gameplay. Tuning, the feel of the car, track design, and AI. This isn't an Arcade Racer and I strongly feel gamers have forgotten this. The moment I purchased the fully customizable transmission, modified the gear ratios, and destroyed my competition by more than 14 seconds is the moment I knew this game was for real racing enthusiasts.

This game feels real, and it needs to be reviewed differently. If a reviewer wants to write his opinion, they need to know about both cars and racing. Gran Turismo 5 isn't a racing game for mamby pamby gamers, looking to get their speed fix by taking hairpin corners at 1,000 mph. If you want that, go play and review Need for Speed. Personally, I have driven easily half the cars listed in this game. I'm an insane car enthusiast, growing up in a family that both course races and drag races nationally. Look for my review by the weekend, and I promise graphics won't be the majority piece.

http://www.strengthgamer.com/Graphics_Make_GT5.html 

no it doesn't, it feels like a game lol




Nsanity said:

I don't want to be that guy to say it but, GT5 was hyped as some graphical powerhouse that was going to widen the gap between it and other racers so graphics not matter in this case is some would call hypocrisy.


Ha,ha..  so true ...I dont want to instigate but most of them were Ps3 only owners, they were like, Forza would look like shit when the real GT5 comes out...  huh? what happend, graphics dont really matter now?

(Graphics dont really matter) this phrase didn't exist in Sony's dictionary, now it does?

Like someone said above, Lets stop believing what we see first in a game trailer instead lets just wait when the game comes out.



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Well that's what I heard most of the time until this week when most fanboys then started saying that Gfx dont matter when the said it did just before this week.