FF, why do you trust these two so much. I've seen nothing spectacular from either of them. I know they are good players though, and that's why it's suspicious to me. (well, i don't know that nord is a good player, but he seems like it)

I wasn't really absent, I followed the thread but have decided not to post because everything that has gotten my attention was already mentioned. I haven't voted for anyone so far because I did not want to make a wrong decision early in the game.

To Radish: I don't really know what I should say about him but I just don't get the scum feeling from him, but the same happened when he was the SK and I also refused to lynch him.

To Homer: He looks to me scummy as always, I always feel like he is a good lynch target.

I have to reread everything in the Kantor analysis to make myself a picture, those huge posts are too big for my short concentration span.

After reading through Kantors posts again I pretty much think he is also an alternative to homer, at least I would like that we put some real presure on him before the day ends. It should not hurt to get him at L-3 or 2 to get some additional Info, but I still think homer should be our lynching target if we want to lynch.

The problem I had with the post wasn't that I didn't understand your hesitation. It's that you HAD hesitation. Yet, it was justified enough that you removed a vote from gow. (also on the gow subject, looking a little before this post, all you did was agree that gow was suspicious.)

Nevertheless, everything I say should be taken with a grain of salt. You nor anyone else knows my affiliation so you can't trust what I say. You an't trust what anyone says. You have to look at the evidence. I can only point you to that game where I explained yomi and said that most players are either yomi 1 or 2, which is basic, and then the opposite. If I were to pull off that strategy that you depict me doing, I would be doing level 3, which is easily countered by level 1 yomi. A beginner using level 1 would say, "prof defended radish,*and radish ended up scum* therefore prof is scum" *asterix for what the thought process is*. Couple that with my complaint that most of the players here use superficial evidence and don't think thoroughly enough, and you SHOULD find it hard to believe that I would put THIS MUCH effort into the game yet allow myself to get taken down by noobs. You can think this if you want. I urge you to, because I AM capable of doing it. You'll have to decide for yourself.

I also don't really like how GoW is playing this time, the last time I saw someone playing like this it was noname and he was Mafia that time (I believe it was the Mortal Kombat themed one). These huge post are definatly good for the town and are good for a Mafia to hide behind. It even lets the poster look innocent. Thats why no one suspected noname in that game, actually even I did trust him until the very end (I was on the other Mafia and he was the only one who could have been innocent in my eyes). Well I don't think this really matters in this game, I just wanted to say that I don't trust GoW right now.

now that was much better. We can actually see your point here, and I believe that is what dtewi meant.

However... half the town having voted on radish does not make FF suspicous for wanting him lynched. Since half the town voted, it means that half the town also though there was enough to warrant a lynch. Now the many posts clamoring for the lynch are indeed a bit oversealous and warrant to keep an eye on him... though i vaguely recall him being excited when he has an idea he is convinced of, so i won't judge him solely on this.

I just find it odd that this is your main argument against him when it's the exact same thing as you being agressively pushing people for lynching at the begining of day one. Your FF vote might have been a joke, but the presure on others after a joke vote was in fact pressure to bandwagon... (might have been a strat to see who easily bandwagoned? hence you calling out proff who's not the type to be influanced, but by doing so you could trap others to think "oh let's do it".  But that's not my point here) My point is that you had the exact same attitude earlier that you are now taking up against him... and guess what you made 2 calls to lynch him based on this (your vote post and one where you litteraly call others to do so), 2 more and you'll have the exact same profile as him...

This wasn't an attack on you, but indeed a defence against the lynch train you're trying to start. All it does is divide the town't attention as you clearly don't have enough to go on FF. Same point I was making to proff about kantor... then again in that case they did make him talk a lot more and the double revenge votes and all...

It's not that I trust them that much, it's just that I didn't understand why their playing "unspectacularly" led you to suspect them (out of all the other players) as much as Kantor and MORE than me or TOS whom you've had more specific suspicions on. 

... AHAHAHA Is that post why GoW thinks I'm nordlead's bestest friend in the whole wide world?

P.S.  The yomi doesn't translate that exactly but I'll keep in mind the possibility that you THINK it does, which would affect your behavior accordingly. 

Here you go again voting for reasons that are shaky at best. If dtewi and/or Final-Fan were scum that means they would KNOW without a doubt whether or not radish would turn up town. So if radish is town then it would be in their best interest to make it seem like they had some doubts so they can backtrack tomorrow when he comes up town.

Also, I don't see where you get that Final-Fan is so certain of radish's scumness, yes he's one of the players who has been pushing the hardest for his lynch but his reasons include the possibility that Radishead is just a townie who's playing badly.

Now I can't shake the feeling that you're scum who's trying to get anyone lynched, jumping to the person that best suits your interests and making up fake reasons to justify your votes.

Unvote: Radishead
Vote: Homer_Simpson

First off, the connection you're trying to establish between me and nordlead is both fictitious and laughable.  It was a new page and I didn't really feel the need to go back and quote him because I wasn't addressing specific points and just didn't feel like it.  I don't know why you have to hypothesize that I'm spinning some huge web of lies by responding to someone without quoting them. 

It doesn't even make sense IMO.  I'm trying to distance myself from him, but I don't want people to notice so I don't quote him?  IMO the only way people wouldn't notice is if they didn't notice that I was responding to nordlead at all, which would defeat the point of the distancing. 

"FInal-fan randomly lynches me"
No, I didn't.  If I'd lynched you, we wouldn't be having this conversation.  The VOTE I cast was meant to put pressure on you, which is exactly the sort of thing that stimulates the conversation that I so desire on any Day 1. 

And once again my simply being NEAR one of nordlead's posts is apparently proof I'm in cahoots with him. 

However, he's right about one thing:  there wasn't really any "exchange" between me and him.  I posted something about him FoSing him; he responded to someone else (I'm not saying he ignored me); and then I voted him.  But I think my point to prof stands that my motives should have been clear enough. 

"FINISH HIM!" 
As I've said in other posts, I think we have had a good enough Day 1 that ending it is OK, and he was very close to being lynched at that time (and I obviously think he's a worthy target) so why shouldn't I want to see him hang? 

Again, his defense is that he exaggerates (lies) in order to set himself up to look like town whatever the outcome is ... in other words, his defense is that he acts like mafia.  And you're telling me we shouldn't lynch him? 

radishhead is a walking talking scum tell.  He's only going to attract suspicion for the rest of the game and lynching him now (when we have the lowest odds) is the least damaging way to waste a day on a mislynch IF INDEED IT IS a mislynch.  And on the other hand, he may well be scum hiding behind the fact that he looks like mafia all the time anyway. 

Part of your problem, I think, is the fact that you think I was somehow trying to sneak under the radar with this.  Not so.  I've been quite open, or thought I was, with the fact that I won't regret this lynch even if he flips town, except of course in that we didn't hit a mafia instead.  If he's town, obviously I'll wish we'd gotten mafia instead, but the fact that he, a townie, is dead won't bother me so much given how ADMITTEDLY SCUMMY he was being. 

And like I also said, part of the reason I'm for this is that maybe it will finally get through to him that acting like scum is not in fact a great way to stay alive in this game and that perhaps he should try to change that behavior instead of just blaming the town for lynching someone who acts like mafia. 

"If radishhead is innocent, then final fan is most definitely scum."
WAT

the only thing I am "trying hard to do" is catch scum

as for Radish, I mentioned my suspicions of him several times, and I said why if he is scum it benefits us like two posts before you posted this, either you are being selective or you are just ignorant.