theprof00 said:
Heph: When I was attacking Kantor, he said "@proff, unfortunately, there isn't much to presure kantor on so far. Engaging in a confrontation with him will probably yield a rather steril debate as I did with gow. Might get you to have a read on him, but you're also waisting your ammo by letting others slack down in the mean time. I'll grant you however that he is currently the lurking force in the game... and going from last game, you're right to be on his tail."
Additionally,there's this:
Hephaestos said:
theprof00 said:
Kantor said:
It seems to me as though Radish currently holds the most suspicion because he doesn't want to Day One Lynch.
And so, we want to Day One Lynch him.
There's a beautiful poetic symmetry there.
Vote: radishhead.
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you want to day one lynch him?
And he's suspicious because he doesn't want a day one lynch? Fyi: neither does vette and several others.
What is so different about radish?
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I personnaly didn't vote on him for the no day one lynch. I voted because of the changing story when noname was interogating him and the nonchalent attitude thowards it. That is what's different about him.
Whatever other target you end up finding proff, you won't have much better evidence than this on day one :-/
he's at L-2 right now, so sceptics should use this opportunity to ask away any questions they want about him. I don't think i'm the only tangent voter, so convince us, or convince yourselves. (I'm not talking about you finding a better target, i'm asking you to check radish out and decide).
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seems pretty scummy to me all around. I'll get back to Heph later when I move onto my suspicions list.
suspects:
Heph: has made virtually no contributions yet. ITT (in this thread) he has made more jokes and talked with people who aren't playing, than actual contributions. Very strange considering his usual input. Additionally, when he was arguing with gow early in the game, he made a huge turnaround almost immediately and was basically like "now that I think about it, you're absolutely right" etc etc. But gow pursued him and kept arguing. It looked,...to me.. like he was trying to get out of the argument for the exposure it might create, but then changed his mind after that, because he kept arguing with gow, and they traded barbs.
(Keep in mind that this lowered my trust of gow as well. GoW did this insulting kind of back and forth with me during our mafia stint together).
Also, Heph said something like, "I said I would stop talking so much last game, and in the intro to this game". Using other posts from other threads as justification seems scummy to me. If he is contributing less, it doesn't matter how he said he would act. It's out of character.
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so #1 you complain that I don't contribute enough, but when #2 I do, you complain that I answer questions you meant for Kantor?
and I gues you didn't understand the first post you quoted:
I was telling you to let the town focus a bit, determine if Radish should be lynched or not and avoid waisting presure on someone that you won't be able to presure as well the next day if you spend all your arguments today.
Now we have suspicon flying on about 7-8 players and barely any evidence. Do you really think these 8 players will be held accountable on the debates of the first day later on? no half of these debates will be forgoten by most of the town. That is what I call waisting amo. It's not a defence of Kantor, it's an advice on your playstyle.
on my contribution, I believe I replied to in my previous post. I actually believe it's a good thing that I posted less (and that you did too for the first pages), because people like dtewi, noname and homer had the space to actually speak and give their input. If we flood the game all the time, it kind of dulls it too.
And please if you're gonna find me scumy on something I said, use my actual words....
Hephaestos said:
and there is no contribute enough yet, there's not even 20 posts, even checking in is contributing enough.
(though it's true I did say last round and in this signup that i'd talk less  ...sorry :-p )
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That's a reference to me and Gow spamming the first page, it's an excuse for not letting other people talk, not an excuse for not posting later. The "sorry" is exactly that.
On the turnabout... I really don't see the problem between "the town should really be carefull before lynching day 1" and " you're right, in vanilla games, day 1 has just about as much info as we would in day 2, so I won't opose a day 1 lynch", and really if you see a problem on this you should HoS anyone whom you ever managed to argument with and bring to agree with your conclusions... why put out arguments on what to do if you don't expect the others to change their minds and agree?
on the bickering with gow, of course I wanted to get out of it, first page of the thread, there wasn't much to go on besides the aggressivity he entered the thread with. Once I agreed that day 1 could see a lynch, what did you want me to argument on, his agressivity? that was already noted in my first comment and registered by half the town when I HoSed him for it. The rest of the discution proved rather sterile, which means i was correct in wanting to end it.
