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Khuutra said:

This post is an ungodly mess.

1. I can guarantee that vanilla townies have names, and anyone doubting this needs to be at the top of the lynch list, which means you're next.

FoS: Hephaestos


quoted just so that you can't back out of this. You guaranteed that vanilla townies had names! This for one is a claim that you're a vanilla townie, and second is bold  to say that everyone has the same as you.



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Hephaestos said:
Khuutra said:

This post is an ungodly mess.

1. I can guarantee that vanilla townies have names, and anyone doubting this needs to be at the top of the lynch list, which means you're next.

FoS: Hephaestos

quoted just so that you can't back out of this. You guaranteed that vanilla townies had names! This for one is a claim that you're a vanilla townie, and second is bold  to say that everyone has the same as you.

Yes. I guarantee it. I do not pretend to be vanilla myself - why give away more than I need to? - but I'm willing to bet your neck that vanilla townies have names.

Consistency is not a bold assumption. Like I said: if some have names and some don't, I'm goin to hate Final-Fan to death.



theprof00 said:

That's not the point at all. You didn't even read what I posted several posts up did you?

He claimed that vanillas don't have names. Implying that he is vanilla since he is "confirming" something that someone else was saying.

I know this is false, therefore, he's most likely lying to give himself cover about a future name-claim.


and that's for you Prof00!



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Khuutra said:
Hephaestos said:
Khuutra said:

This post is an ungodly mess.

1. I can guarantee that vanilla townies have names, and anyone doubting this needs to be at the top of the lynch list, which means you're next.

FoS: Hephaestos

quoted just so that you can't back out of this. You guaranteed that vanilla townies had names! This for one is a claim that you're a vanilla townie, and second is bold  to say that everyone has the same as you.

Yes. I guarantee it. I do not pretend to be vanilla myself - why give away more than I need to? - but I'm willing to bet your neck that vanilla townies have names.

Consistency is not a bold assumption. Like I said: if some have names and some don't, I'm goin to hate Final-Fan to death.

how could you guearantee it day one. You were about to lynch a player based on this.

It's nice that you're willing to bet my neck and not yours, very cleaverly put

the hate the mod part is a trick you've used before as mafia, not very convincing.



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theprof00 said:
Hephaestos said:

great so now you guys are claiming to have names instead of "nameclaiming". I hardly see how that is so different.... besides the fact that it helps the mafia pinpoint players.

FoS Proff

FoS Khuut

this could be a technique to trick power townies to vote.... as if it's true that vanilla townies have no name, then there'll be only these who will vote under your fake cover.

Conveniently, Proff even hinted at Khuut being the doctor, so no townie in their right mind will want to risk lynching him...while distancing himself by saying that it only meant he was mafia.

c'mon, seriously?


that's the only redeeming post for you, it could pass for a sincere objection. However your subsequent attack of me and your reasoning that is overly confident (you know townies have names, or so you said) is what doomed you in this round, so i won't appologize if you were indeed townie in the end.



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well that turned out as a pretty interesting day one I would say =) (and link was one of the 2 players I disagreed on in prof's list, the other one is someone i somehow feel only talks when town.)

 

@ hat, yeah I know you have this vibe on me... =) it's fun though.



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Hephaestos said:

how could you guearantee it day one. You were about to lynch a player based on this.

It's nice that you're willing to bet my neck and not yours, very cleaverly put

the hate the mod part is a trick you've used before as mafia, not very convincing.

Because theprof00 isn't stupid. Unpredictable, yes. Troublesome, yes. Often-underfoot, yes. Potentially damaging to his won cause through overanalysis, yes. But he's not stupid.

In calling out linkzmanx on the question of vanilla townies having names, prof was establishing that he himself was a vanilla townie who has a name. Now, he can't claim this with any confidence as Mafia; it would be stupid to the point of suicide. No Mafia is going to outline something that's possibly untrue for townies because it will get them killed. Prof made that accusation because he is a named vanilla townie - possibly one of the four devas or some other villain from throughout the series (all of them, you will remember, had names). And yes, "that monster made out of a hair dryer" is still a name.

You are the one who suggests that there is a dichotomy among the vanilla townies wherein not all of them are named, which is not a tenable position on its face. All the bad guys in Sailor Moon are named. You claimed that unnamed villains is canon in Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon, but this game is clearly and concretely based on the Japanese anime, which I know based on my own role.

Linkzmanx, on reflection is not actually someone I'm willing to lynch yet (but who should be examined as soon as possible). I think theprof00 may have misunderstood him, that he might have made an incorrect assumption concerning vanilla roles equating with no names.

If you flip unnamed townie, I'm going to see theprof00 hang.

If you flip named townie, then you got yourself killed with a stupid lie.

If you flip Mafia, linkz is going to get the grilling of his life but he is not going to be automatically lynched for it.

But you are going to hang if I have any ability to affect it.



Khuutra said:

Because theprof00 isn't stupid. Unpredictable, yes. Troublesome, yes. Often-underfoot, yes. Potentially damaging to his won cause through overanalysis, yes. But he's not stupid.

In calling out linkzmanx on the question of vanilla townies having names, prof was establishing that he himself was a vanilla townie who has a name. Now, he can't claim this with any confidence as Mafia; it would be stupid to the point of suicide. No Mafia is going to outline something that's possibly untrue for townies because it will get them killed. Prof made that accusation because he is a named vanilla townie - possibly one of the four devas or some other villain from throughout the series (all of them, you will remember, had names). And yes, "that monster made out of a hair dryer" is still a name.

You are the one who suggests that there is a dichotomy among the vanilla townies wherein not all of them are named, which is not a tenable position on its face. All the bad guys in Sailor Moon are named. You claimed that unnamed villains is canon in Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon, but this game is clearly and concretely based on the Japanese anime, which I know based on my own role.

Linkzmanx, on reflection is not actually someone I'm willing to lynch yet (but who should be examined as soon as possible). I think theprof00 may have misunderstood him, that he might have made an incorrect assumption concerning vanilla roles equating with no names.

If you flip unnamed townie, I'm going to see theprof00 hang.

If you flip named townie, then you got yourself killed with a stupid lie.

If you flip Mafia, linkz is going to get the grilling of his life but he is not going to be automatically lynched for it.

But you are going to hang if I have any ability to affect it.

I already said that I didn't care as my lynch would be beneficial to the town, you can't really threaten me =)

and you recognize that what i said could be true in PGSM but don't because you think it's the anime... I'll let you in a little secret (that i said in the signup thread), I've see all but 10 episodes of SM about 15 years ago, so how do you guess i can quote PGSM? cause I wikied who I was.

How to make it more obvious without "name"claiming is impossible.

nice way to put yourself out of your lynch senarios again....



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Hephaestos said:

I already said that I didn't care as my lynch would be beneficial to the town, you can't really threaten me =)

and you recognize that what i said could be true in PGSM but don't because you think it's the anime... I'll let you in a little secret (that i said in the signup thread), I've see all but 10 episodes of SM about 15 years ago, so how do you guess i can quote PGSM? cause I wikied who I was.

How to make it more obvious without "name"claiming is impossible.

nice way to put yourself out of your lynch senarios again....

You are claiming that you are a named villainous character specifically from Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon?



Khuutra said:
Hephaestos said:

I already said that I didn't care as my lynch would be beneficial to the town, you can't really threaten me =)

and you recognize that what i said could be true in PGSM but don't because you think it's the anime... I'll let you in a little secret (that i said in the signup thread), I've see all but 10 episodes of SM about 15 years ago, so how do you guess i can quote PGSM? cause I wikied who I was.

How to make it more obvious without "name"claiming is impossible.

nice way to put yourself out of your lynch senarios again....

You are claiming that you are a named villainous character specifically from Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon?

unnamed... that's pretty obvious... and not specifically from PGSM, but that in PGSM "they" didn't have names.



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