Do you realise that Noah's Ark was found and many locations in the Bible that people thought were made up have been discovered? And many proofs of things in the Bible have been found in many places. Where do u think we got the general idea of what Jesus is supposed to look like from? A scroll was found that describes his appearance and carraige and it wasn't written by someone who believed in his teachings. BTW, for anyone interested, a part of the scroll said "No man has ever seen him smile!"

OK......I JUST have to talk! I think that most people that don't believe haven't EXPERIENCED anything spiritual, they've only HEARD stories. I've experienced more than enough so that it's impossible to convince me that there's no God but I'd like to know if the OP is still following this thread and how those of you that don't believe are going to take my experiences if I post them. I really don't feel like writing volumes of my experiences just for people to dismiss them as made up stories or hallucinations or coincidences.

Did u guys ever wonder how De ja vus work, for example? At least I'm sure EVERYONE has experienced those!

 1) M-thoery tells you what banged and how.  Most people believe in a creator because of fear. You know the hell thing.  Logic plays no part in religion it actually disproves it. Non-believers don't stay away from god they are smart enough to know brain wash when they see it.  Also the problem is that no believer will see a logic point of view. It's," I can't explain that it must have been god".  So you can't debate with them because they answer questions with questions and in the end say " I  have faith "or something about experienceing  something spirtual . which can just be a part of the frontal lobe being active from thought.  The earth is not only 6,000 years old, period.   I see your question of gravity, can't answer it, must be god. see you did it already.

2) Why does the new testament still treat women with no respect and why are there two books? God must not be perfect if he had to update his failed first book. Times change and so does the bible to keep people believeing.

3) No not everyone has access to the bible and this is a way to explain away why he doesn't just reveal himself.  This is just like conspiracy thoery, you don't have to prove nothing, just believe. In the same light I can say that my poop is god and only talks to me. No one else, just choices to only reveal to one person or two, sounds like a bad acid trip. add a threat of pain and suffering, Some moral ideals,  that you should know anyway and there you go. Now this sounds stupid but it is the same thing. Sure go to god on his on terms. You know how much religion is pushed down everyone's throats from the day your born.  Marriages, death, baptism, tv adds, solicitation, threats and the end of world bull. Its' another way to explain away the proof that is not there.

Here I will give you a list of things religion can't explain away.

slavery, torture, retardation, gay gene, evolution, frontal lube in the brain and what happens if it gets damaged.  I could go on for a week of the reason why god is not perfect as it claims. Problems with logic and realism should tell you there is a problem.

Frontal lobe plays a big part on what and who we are.

The executive functions of the frontal lobes involve the ability to recognize future consequences resulting from current actions, to choose between good and bad actions (or better and best), override and suppress unacceptable social responses, and determine similarities and differences between things or events. Therefore, it is involved in higher mental functions.

The frontal lobes also play an important part in retaining longer term memories which are not task-based. These are often memories associated with emotions derived from input from the brain's limbic system. The frontal lobe modifies those emotions to generally fit socially acceptable norms.  So if it gets damaged you go to hell or what?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobe

Fear is the biggest reason people believe.

• Brainwashing, the application of coercive techniques to change the values and beliefs, perceptions and judgments, and subsequent mindsets and behaviors of one or more people, usually for political, financial, personal, or religious purposes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashed

here some george carlin to sum it up.
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/george-carlin-religion-is-bullshit/7d4e4fd052678415635e7d4e4fd052678415635e-290881143191?q=george carlin religion is bullshit

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/george-carlin-its-bad-for-ya-7-de-7/a8285b26a83e44e03961a8285b26a83e44e03961-294775358354?q=george carlin its bad for ya- religion&FROM=LKVR5&GT1=LKVR5&FORM=LKVR7

1. Oh really? LOL, the delusion.

http://christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a001.html

And that's from a Christian site BTW, so you can't say it's biased against religion.

2. I don't see the point of this. No one was denying Jesus existed, and the Jesus you see in Church paintings looks too European to be accurate (he most lilely looked like a middle eastern person).

I've often experienced Deja vu's. Sitiations that cause a deja-vu share similar minor elements with past situations which you experienced, and these elements trigger your memory reminding you of the past situation you were in, thus causing confusion. It's basically not being able to differentiate between a present experience, and a past one which had similar subtle elements. Nothing supernatural about that.

 The brain can make a lot happen that is only internal and not anything to do with god. So spirtual can come down to the frontal lobe being  energized.

Persinger has gained attention for his work with the "God Helmet," headgear so named because it may induce a person to feel the presence of God. The God Helmet includes electrodes that Persinger uses to alter the electromagnetic field at the temporal lobes. Persinger claims he can create a religious experience for anyone by disrupting the brain with regular electric pulses. This will cause the left temporal lobe to explain the activity in the right side of the brain as a sensed presence. The sensed presence could be anything from God to demons, and when not told what the experiment involved, about 80 percent of God Helmet wearers reported sensing something nearby [source: BBC].

http://health.howstuffworks.com/mental-health/human-nature/behavior/brain-religion2.htm

Trying to explain logic to people of the faith is a joke. A car could pass by  a leaf flies over and smacks them in the face and stops them from tripping. They will some how think that  it must have been god and he saved them from a face plant.

@OP. Firstly congratulations on going to the source and not simply taking what is seen in some fundamentalist Muslim communities as being the "true" Islam.

1. Think about it. If God absolutely proved himself such that only the mentally deficient couldn't recognise his existence then where does that leave the freedom for each individual to chose in the most fundamental of all philosophical issues? between accepting God or not, what is right and what is wrong. There's no room for enquiry, debate, growth, learning. No room for opinion. What happens to atheists who have rejected the notion of any God if God really does exists? Well, what happens to a newborn child if they haven't received proper sustenance in the womb? The newborn child isn't punished (in an it is to blame sort of way) for having been malnourished in the womb, but the newborn child does suffer (and for the rest of its life potentially) because it will be born weith diminished faculties (lower intelligence perhaps, physically weak maybe, weak immune system possibly). Malnourishment isn't an either/or thing, there are degrees of malnourishment and even a conscientious, mother might not do everything right. But what's the difference between a newborn child that was somewhat malnourished in the womb vs. one that was exposed to illicit drugs, smoking, high levels of alcohol, HIV virus and environmental toxins? Such a child won't have problems of malnourshment, it will be deformed, retarded, diseased.

2. The one passage from the Quran I've read equating women to land reads to me that you need to be productive with women. So a) make babies and b) take good care of them, otherwise they won't be productive. Think about the analogy, if you don't take good care of your farmland it will fall fallow and you will starve. So the Quran is instructing men (in a culture at the time Islam was established when women were horribly abused) to upraise the status of women in their culture. You also can't take a single passage in the Quran about women in isolation, read all the passages in the Quran about women and you will get the full context of how Muhammad viewed the status and importance of women. The Quran gave women rights that hitherto they didn't have  in Arabic culture. One example is the right to divorce their husbands. That one right forever reversed the idea in the Arabian culture that women were a man's possession. A woman cannot be regarded as a man's possession if the woman can choose to dissolve teh marriagne and live an independant life. Also if a woman can divorce a man it means the man can't do whatever he wants with his wife, because she'll leave.

3. Here you are confusing equality of status (all people are equal in the sight of God) with equality of capacity (everyone has exactly the same talents and abilities all to exactly the same degree). In terms of capacity to receive revelation/inspiration from God, well see question 1 for the answer to that. It's as if you want everyone to be born with the same level of intelligence, the same level of physical strength etc. What determines your "worth" in the sight of God is not what talents and capacities you're born with, but whether you use them to the limit of their potentialities and, more importantly, what you use your talents for. God is like a person and we are like worker ants. To a human one worker ant is like any other in terms of ability, and worthfulness, but to the worker ants there are more capable and less capable worker ants. The differences perceived by the ants between themselves seems vast. But the differences from the view of the person are miniscule compared to what the person is capable of. Consider this too: When the president of the USA sends an envoy to a country to negotiate and convey the policies of the Amreican govt on his behalf does he send one envoy or many? He may send different envoys to different countries at different times, but to one country at one time he will send one envoy. Seems like a pretty sound approach to me.

This is not only the most insulting thing I've heard all day, but also one of the stupidest things I've heard in my life.You disgust me.

What religion are you, I'm catholic myself and we know that the stories of floods, creation etc. are just manmade nonsense to help understand GOD. 

As in, we know GOD didn't make the world in seven days with adam and eve, but he did create the world.