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Lostplanet22 on 29 October 2010

I feel sorry for all who used VGC numbers to make predictions and bets;..Especially now the ones in the 'Ten official last week of the year thread'..

=p  I wake up Wii at number 1...Come back home ...PS3 at number 1...The world really change after 8 hours of working =p.



 

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NYANKS on 29 October 2010
RafaelOrix said:
NYANKS said:
Squilliam said:
NYANKS said:
Squilliam said:
NYANKS said:
Squilliam said:

I guess this is how Sony intends to ship 15M in FY2011. Its really naughty how they don't share their weekly sell-through data with us because obviously trusting Vgchartz sales to the week is a hit or miss affair some of the time.


Cheer up silly.  On the bright side, this place can look forward to going nuts at the end of every quarter! :D

But hey! I was right about the developing countries sales! Remember our talk?

Seriously.  You were indeed.  I noticed the inconsistencies, but for it to happen this many times, with the last one being such a big adjustment....damn.  And some people are saying that it needs to be adjusted slightly higher still....wtf.  Also PS2 needs a serious adjustment by the looks of things.  I mean, outshipping 360 in the first half of the year. REALLY?

Well, REALLY. You have to remember that a lot of countries are growing in affluence at a rate of 4-8% per year. That means huge potential growth as consoles like the PS2 suddenly become affordable because the games can be sold for local prices of $5-20USD. Suddenly in a lot of places $100 is affordable for a lot of people when a $299 PS3 can be seen as a premiere product for the upper middle class. Even still they can account for 10-20M potential PS3 owners minimum. Then in a couple of years that premiere product is $199 and those people who could only afford a PS2 can start to afford a PS3 and the sales take off once again.

In terms of price the: PS2 <<<<<<<<< PS3 are on the downward track.

In terms of money/disposable income these countries are increasing at a huge pace >>>>>>>> and eventually more and more people can afford either a PS2 or PS3 in these places. With such a young population in developing countries you've got a lot of potential gamers out there.

Imagine if Sony can make these regions as Sony-centric as Japan or Europe?  They've had a good start, and I've heard in LAtin america (or at least Brazil) they are really loved already.  Apparently Kratos is very big in Brazil! And China...that's a monster waiting to erupt. Sony has to get in there. rofl  It would more than negate a disadvantage in the U.S.

I remember Sony sayind they shipped 30k copies of GoW III here in Brazil a couple of months ago. The game was sold for R$199,00 each, or roughly U$120,00 lol. Taxes responds for 70% of the price of a single game here... -.-

Anyway, Sony is very strong here and pirated PS2 is one the main reasons. Now I'm seeing a lot of Brazilian buying PS3, which is kinda surprising because PS3 have no piracy basically, just so they can play online games for free (major point here) and play Sony's established and new IPs.

Are there 360's and Wii's there?  Do you think people would choose Sony over Nintendo or MS? 



MARCUSDJACKSON on 29 October 2010
Yuyyder said:
CGI-Quality said:
lolage said:

is this real life?


I have to keep asking myself the same thing!

No. This. Is Inception.

The idea that PS3 is sellng more than 200k weekly is just that. An idea planted into our heads by the crafty Sony.

But wait! The idea of implanting this idea that PS3 is selling more than 200k weekly so that when we wake up and this is fake is just that. An idea that is a subset of an idea planted into our heads by the even craftier Microsoft.

But behold. The idea of implanting the subset of an idea that Wii is selling below par when it is actually selling more than 500k weekly! An idea that is born from the subset of an idea planted into our heads by the craftiest of the lot, Nintendo.

Now back to sleep...


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ethomaz on 29 October 2010
NYANKS said:
RafaelOrix said:
NYANKS said:
Squilliam said:
NYANKS said:
Squilliam said:
NYANKS said:
Squilliam said:

I guess this is how Sony intends to ship 15M in FY2011. Its really naughty how they don't share their weekly sell-through data with us because obviously trusting Vgchartz sales to the week is a hit or miss affair some of the time.


Cheer up silly.  On the bright side, this place can look forward to going nuts at the end of every quarter! :D

But hey! I was right about the developing countries sales! Remember our talk?

Seriously.  You were indeed.  I noticed the inconsistencies, but for it to happen this many times, with the last one being such a big adjustment....damn.  And some people are saying that it needs to be adjusted slightly higher still....wtf.  Also PS2 needs a serious adjustment by the looks of things.  I mean, outshipping 360 in the first half of the year. REALLY?

Well, REALLY. You have to remember that a lot of countries are growing in affluence at a rate of 4-8% per year. That means huge potential growth as consoles like the PS2 suddenly become affordable because the games can be sold for local prices of $5-20USD. Suddenly in a lot of places $100 is affordable for a lot of people when a $299 PS3 can be seen as a premiere product for the upper middle class. Even still they can account for 10-20M potential PS3 owners minimum. Then in a couple of years that premiere product is $199 and those people who could only afford a PS2 can start to afford a PS3 and the sales take off once again.

In terms of price the: PS2 <<<<<<<<< PS3 are on the downward track.

In terms of money/disposable income these countries are increasing at a huge pace >>>>>>>> and eventually more and more people can afford either a PS2 or PS3 in these places. With such a young population in developing countries you've got a lot of potential gamers out there.

Imagine if Sony can make these regions as Sony-centric as Japan or Europe?  They've had a good start, and I've heard in LAtin america (or at least Brazil) they are really loved already.  Apparently Kratos is very big in Brazil! And China...that's a monster waiting to erupt. Sony has to get in there. rofl  It would more than negate a disadvantage in the U.S.

I remember Sony sayind they shipped 30k copies of GoW III here in Brazil a couple of months ago. The game was sold for R$199,00 each, or roughly U$120,00 lol. Taxes responds for 70% of the price of a single game here... -.-

Anyway, Sony is very strong here and pirated PS2 is one the main reasons. Now I'm seeing a lot of Brazilian buying PS3, which is kinda surprising because PS3 have no piracy basically, just so they can play online games for free (major point here) and play Sony's established and new IPs.

Are there 360's and Wii's there?  Do you think people would choose Sony over Nintendo or MS? 

Before yes... a lot of 360 and Wii were sold here... but today more PS3 was sold than 360 and Wii.

The Brazilian's mentality has changed a bit and are willing to pay $ 80-100 for games here. So the PS3 has become the main console here and many shops where before sold pirated only now are selling originals games.



Squilliam on 29 October 2010
NYANKS said:
Squilliam said:

Well, REALLY. You have to remember that a lot of countries are growing in affluence at a rate of 4-8% per year. That means huge potential growth as consoles like the PS2 suddenly become affordable because the games can be sold for local prices of $5-20USD. Suddenly in a lot of places $100 is affordable for a lot of people when a $299 PS3 can be seen as a premiere product for the upper middle class. Even still they can account for 10-20M potential PS3 owners minimum. Then in a couple of years that premiere product is $199 and those people who could only afford a PS2 can start to afford a PS3 and the sales take off once again.

In terms of price the: PS2 <<<<<<<<< PS3 are on the downward track.

In terms of money/disposable income these countries are increasing at a huge pace >>>>>>>> and eventually more and more people can afford either a PS2 or PS3 in these places. With such a young population in developing countries you've got a lot of potential gamers out there.

Imagine if Sony can make these regions as Sony-centric as Japan or Europe?  They've had a good start, and I've heard in LAtin america (or at least Brazil) they are really loved already.  Apparently Kratos is very big in Brazil! And China...that's a monster waiting to erupt. Sony has to get in there. rofl  It would more than negate a disadvantage in the U.S.

More so for the next generation. You'll see as the PS2 has done exceptionally well in these markets once the PS3 was released, the PS3 ought to do the same once the PS4 is released. They can get a lot more publishers on board selling their legacy games for $15-20 or less or even compilations of games once we're truly starting the next generation. However since these countries are growing in wealth it is starting to translate into increased sales for the current console the PS3 as seen by these adjustments recently.

The strength of the PS3s copy protection really comes into play here and Sony paid a lot to dedicate one SPE to it given the terrible yields and high cost of the Cell processor as originally seen in the PS3. They could have gone with a 1:6 design with lower cost and higher yields and with a weaker copy protection scheme and not lost significantly if any in the western markets however by having this protection they will do even better than the PS2 in developing markets because they'll be able to extract significantly more value from software sales on top of hardware sales.



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RafaelOrix on 29 October 2010
NYANKS said:
RafaelOrix said:
NYANKS said:
Squilliam said:
NYANKS said:
Squilliam said:
NYANKS said:
Squilliam said:

I guess this is how Sony intends to ship 15M in FY2011. Its really naughty how they don't share their weekly sell-through data with us because obviously trusting Vgchartz sales to the week is a hit or miss affair some of the time.


Cheer up silly.  On the bright side, this place can look forward to going nuts at the end of every quarter! :D

But hey! I was right about the developing countries sales! Remember our talk?

Seriously.  You were indeed.  I noticed the inconsistencies, but for it to happen this many times, with the last one being such a big adjustment....damn.  And some people are saying that it needs to be adjusted slightly higher still....wtf.  Also PS2 needs a serious adjustment by the looks of things.  I mean, outshipping 360 in the first half of the year. REALLY?

Well, REALLY. You have to remember that a lot of countries are growing in affluence at a rate of 4-8% per year. That means huge potential growth as consoles like the PS2 suddenly become affordable because the games can be sold for local prices of $5-20USD. Suddenly in a lot of places $100 is affordable for a lot of people when a $299 PS3 can be seen as a premiere product for the upper middle class. Even still they can account for 10-20M potential PS3 owners minimum. Then in a couple of years that premiere product is $199 and those people who could only afford a PS2 can start to afford a PS3 and the sales take off once again.

In terms of price the: PS2 <<<<<<<<< PS3 are on the downward track.

In terms of money/disposable income these countries are increasing at a huge pace >>>>>>>> and eventually more and more people can afford either a PS2 or PS3 in these places. With such a young population in developing countries you've got a lot of potential gamers out there.

Imagine if Sony can make these regions as Sony-centric as Japan or Europe?  They've had a good start, and I've heard in LAtin america (or at least Brazil) they are really loved already.  Apparently Kratos is very big in Brazil! And China...that's a monster waiting to erupt. Sony has to get in there. rofl  It would more than negate a disadvantage in the U.S.

I remember Sony sayind they shipped 30k copies of GoW III here in Brazil a couple of months ago. The game was sold for R$199,00 each, or roughly U$120,00 lol. Taxes responds for 70% of the price of a single game here... -.-

Anyway, Sony is very strong here and pirated PS2 is one the main reasons. Now I'm seeing a lot of Brazilian buying PS3, which is kinda surprising because PS3 have no piracy basically, just so they can play online games for free (major point here) and play Sony's established and new IPs.

Are there 360's and Wii's there?  Do you think people would choose Sony over Nintendo or MS? 

Yes, officially and imported. In all cases, as far as I know, imported consoles count for the majority of our userbase here because it's much cheaper. There's a lot of people with Xbox 360 and Wii, mostly because of piracy, but since we are having access to credit much easier nowadays, now we are seeing more people buying PS3 (which a lot of people always wanted but never had money). Of course, my view is very limited and probably biased, but as right now I know a lot of people having PS3 and Wii, but not so much having Xbox 360. Free online is a MAJOR plus here, but not the only thing that counts, of course.



Metallicube on 29 October 2010

That's pretty inexcusable that this site is THAT far off on PS3 numbers.. How are we supposed to believe ANY numbers on this site now? This site's credibility is going down pretty fast for me..



riecsou on 29 October 2010

this is not just simple heavy adjustement, this is WOW HEAVY ADJUTMENT, yesterday the gad was 5.1 Millions and Today it is 3.9 that is a 1.2 millions adjustement that is not possible, and about a month ago the gad was 5.7 with the Xbox360. What the hell is going on. LOL



NYANKS on 29 October 2010
riecsou said:

this is not just simple heavy adjustement, this is WOW HEAVY ADJUTMENT, yesterday the gad was 5.1 Millions and Today it is 3.9 that is a 1.2 millions adjustement that is not possible, and about a month ago the gad was 5.7 with the Xbox360. What the hell is going on. LOL


The PS2 is taking vengeance upon it's enemies, as it has been foretold. lol

Nah, Sony systems are just doing well in places that are difficult to track, like the Middle East and Latin America and such.  We might have to deal with this for a while.



Tbone on 29 October 2010

WTF happened, can anyone explain?